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With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

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Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by NightTripper on Tue May 15, 2018 3:20 pm

First topic message reminder :

dan wrote:
I’m not interested in portals, if they’re just about saving some 1%.  

WWJD.........?

Jesus would say..... why have you forsaken us, Lord?  

This is a game that I don’t recognize.  I did not sign up for this game.  There has been a mistake.

 cheers



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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Wed May 16, 2018 3:33 pm

Ok, smelly.......

Where is here......?
........

I was mistaken........

Doug and I will have a convoy........
Was the dark of the moon on the sixth of June
In a Kenworth pullin' logs
Cab-over Pete with a reefer on
And a Jimmy haulin' hogs
We is headin' for bear on I-one-oh
'Bout a mile outta Shaky Town
I says, "Pig Pen, this here's the Rubber Duck.
"And I'm about to put the hammer down."
'Cause we got a little convoy
Rockin' through the night.
Yeah, we got a little convoy,
Ain't she a beautiful sight?
Come on and join our convoy
Ain't nothin' gonna get in our way.
We gonna roll this truckin' convoy
'Cross the U-S-A.
Convoy!
By the time we got into Tulsa Town,
We had eighty-five trucks in all.
But they's a roadblock up on the cloverleaf,
And them bears was wall-to-wall.
Yeah, them smokies is thick as bugs on a bumper;
They even had a bear in the air!
I says, "Callin' all trucks, this here's the Duck.
"We about to go a-huntin' bear."
'Cause we got a little convoy
Rockin' through the night.
Yeah, we got a little convoy,
Ain't she a beautiful sight?
Come on and join our convoy
Ain't nothin' gonna get in our way.
We gonna roll this truckin' convoy
'Cross the U-S-A.
Convoy!
Well, we rolled up Interstate 44
Like a rocket sled on rails.
We tore up all of our swindle sheets,
And left 'em settin' on the scales.
By the time we hit that Chi-town,
Them bears was a-gettin' smart:
They'd brought up some reinforcements
From the Illinois National Guard.
There's armored cars, and tanks, and jeeps,
And rigs of ev'ry size.
Yeah, them chicken coops was full'a bears
And choppers filled the skies.
Well, we shot the line and we went for broke
With a thousand screamin' trucks
An' eleven long-haired Friends a' Jesus
In a chartreuse micra-bus.
Well, we laid a strip for the Jersey shore
And prepared to cross the line
I could see the bridge was lined with bears
But I didn't have a dog-goned dime.
I says, "Pig Pen, this here's the Rubber Duck.
"We just ain't a-gonna pay no toll."
So we crashed the gate doing ninety-eight
I says "Let them truckers roll, 10-4."
'Cause we got a little convoy
Rockin' through the night.
Yeah, we got a little convoy,
Ain't she a beautiful sight?
Come on and join our convoy
Ain't nothin' gonna get in our way.
We gonna roll this truckin' convoy
'Cross the U-S-A.
Convoy!
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Z on Wed May 16, 2018 3:53 pm

Haha! Love that ol song!


A caravan to the Princess's neighborhood?

The Princess is VERY VERY VERY wise Dan... what are the sticking points between you two?

Chickens?
One of mine just had babies & the caretaker sent me pix!
How cute a mommy huh?

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by clusterfuggles on Wed May 16, 2018 4:00 pm

Can I come? I'll bring a keg of my "In Bruges" tripel for the after party.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Wed May 16, 2018 4:27 pm

Where is here, now that is the question of All time isn’t Dan Smiley Smith.

If you find an answer, do let me know without words.

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by jofo on Wed May 16, 2018 4:39 pm

dan wrote:Currently, the Princess and I are engaged in a discussion of the nature of truth.

one of my favorite conversations...

the truth is what people think

something either resonates with your experience or not

the more it resonates the more true it becomes for you

the nature of truth is that it cannot be reduced to words in a way that creates resonance with another without a shared experience

when something is within our collective experience, it becomes immutable, ie the truth

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by clusterfuggles on Wed May 16, 2018 5:33 pm



http://www.gmsdk12.org/Downloads/WhereIsHerefulltext.pdf
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Wed May 16, 2018 5:59 pm

In so many words........ here is everywhere .........

But I cheated....... I used words.

But, correct me if I’m wrong, CF already has said this with pictures.

Is CF correct?
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Wed May 16, 2018 7:17 pm

Here is in some dimensional fractal possibly, I can’t prove it, but it’s circles within circles, not squares.

I do interpret 3 energies mixing in the fractal perception, perceived and perceiver.

I have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in my experience with my wife, psychic phenomena is so crazy real.

We can do weird tricks now and guess shapes and numbers the other is thinking about.

We did 3 shapes in a row the other day. I guessed, right each time. I even guessed the flow where she changed her mind on one shape.

High weirdness.

So there are hints of the unseen I personally have experienced. We can know them by the experiences people have only.

Neither one of those states perceiver, perceived or perception may exist in this fractal by its objective self, again, not provable, but experience can give you an answer.

I will say one thing further, if you prepare yourself properly, train, still yourself and learn to watch, you will have spontaneous images and verbal contact with IT for you mostly.

I have learned more from that voice and images than from any person or book, including psychedelics.

It is truly incredible to experience and follow through with what you are told.

They lead to more and more synchronicities and connections unimagined.

I met Jack Safarrti and Dan Smith three years ago following the signs and voices that literally said sending an email to Jack will change your life forever, I scoffed, it was true.

Jack I am sure has forgotten, said I was writing literature.

Still have my 2 emails that started all of this.

Then I was invited to an email list with famous people and scientists from all over.

I was really playing around then and I left that group.

It was too much.

I met a Zen Master, my first teacher through Jack.

It’s just a big mess of connections.

And I have nothing to do with any of this here on OMF.

Most here are muppets and clueless or self obsessed with a mission.

I have been cheating this whole time on OMF.

I have such incredible experiences I can’t explain or share.

It was enough to witness.

I have no doubts something is up, but I don’t know what.

I use secret information only the observant can see.

So watch things, everything I am saying will become self evident if you are authentic and committed and focused.


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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Foot Mann on Wed May 16, 2018 7:22 pm

The burden of saving the world in human form has exhausted the Princess. Her scribe has made matters worse through his lack of honesty and loyalty. She has gone off the grid. Hopefully she will be able to emerge this Weekend for a day of Art and Creation.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Wed May 16, 2018 7:52 pm

I told you, no missions, just accepting responsibilty for our own actions is all you can do, the rest is ego.

You can encourage people and point them at Self forever, it’s hard work, but it’s the best work in the Cosmos!

The best!

Art and flowers is what she needs.

She should spend time getting her hands dirty in the garden.

She will be good as new.

Drop the missions.

If you speak or act from heart in every situation and take responsibilty for your actions only, you will change the world, no missions needed.

This is how to never lose energy and focus.

Always Be Closing.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Wed May 16, 2018 8:25 pm

Anywhooo

Dan, meet IT...



No-thingness to no-thingness is the whole journey.


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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by GrandCru on Wed May 16, 2018 8:41 pm

Foot sounds like my wife if she were to refer to herself in third person. Your words betray your identity, Foot.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Sweet Release on Thu May 17, 2018 12:46 am

Foot Mann wrote:The burden of saving the world in human form has exhausted the Princess. Her scribe has made matters worse through his lack of honesty and loyalty. She has gone off the grid. Hopefully she will be able to emerge this Weekend for a day of Art and Creation.

Any chance of the Princess doing her own Q & A on here, Foot Mann?

It might charge her up again if she mingles with the common folk.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by GrandCru on Thu May 17, 2018 7:36 am

Linda speaking on portals. Related to the collapsing of magnetic fields.
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Post by smelly on Thu May 17, 2018 8:53 am

Ok, listen, I have had a good time here as a sham goat Oracle.

It was an art project for me, art is life.

I ignore the portal stuff here.

I mess with the muppet lunatics.

Nothing I learned here compares with what flowers taught me.

I thought a fun thing to play with considering how distracted everyone is.

But if there was no portal tech, people will be broken so close to it, good, whatever it takes to break them free is best.

If you are focused on tech and phenomena, you are distracted, has been my mantra.

Truthfully, I have been preparing myself to meet myself, like you guys, right?

Today, for the first time, I’m considering portals.

Other parts of Awareness in other dimensions, ok.

I could care less about tech or money, they are props.

Going through a portal, as described, won’t wake you up I guess any more than an LSD trip, but something could happen suddenly.

You have to wake yourself up.

We all do.

You will always have to do your personal work.

If they are real, funny way to go is all, I can’t imagine why I would use one.

I told this to Ack.

If there is a secret program here, I will never know it.

So I figured be spontaneous, maybe something will come through.

Oh, it did.

If you resist me, you are resisting yourself.

Well, I don’t know if I helped or hurt, but I did the best thing, because I did the best I could.

I never came here with one question and I still have none.

What do you need to know you don’t know Wink

Live the best lives you can is all I see to do.

I know my awareness is natural and wild, for me, that’s the best way to live.

I would turn my back at heavens gate and run for the woods.
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Post by Sweet Release on Thu May 17, 2018 9:18 am

Imagine telling a rape victim that the rapist was her on the ultimate level.

If she didn't want to knee you in the balls she might have refrained from the thought because she gets the essential spiritual point that 'we are all one' etc. etc.

Back on the practical level, I think we should catch, or at least strive to understand, rapists, and since I'm one of many people who have been abducted by monsters, I'd like to know what the fuck is going on.

Why are the people who know, so frightened that their only responses are dark, sarcastic poems, and bewildering philosophical deflections...anything to avoid properly addressing the valid questions being asked?

If the details don't matter, why are they hidden?

Obviously the details desperately do matter, or Foot Mann and co. wouldn't have made a career (and presumably a fortune) from hiding those details from the rest of us.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Thu May 17, 2018 10:01 am

ME, you brush off the most profound point and only thing to talk about, to talk about practical distractions.

Shrug.

Have at it.

Dan will entertain you forever.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Sweet Release on Thu May 17, 2018 10:02 am

smelly wrote:ME, you brush off the most profound point and only thing to talk about, to talk about practical distractions.

Can't we talk about both profound and practical things?

Did you brush your teeth this morning?

If so, why?

Why bother ever eating again?

Don't forget the middle way.
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Post by smelly on Thu May 17, 2018 10:16 am

This is the middle way.

The middle way forgets the world and leave it as it is, point of fact.

A master smiles at aliens.

That’s why the call me Smiley Wink

The sham guru has you, but be on your way little mouse, Dan has your cheese.

You have the rest where you stand, also found on the middle way, you are enough as you are.
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Post by smelly on Thu May 17, 2018 10:55 am

While I do not recognize missions, we may be given tasks to do. Perhaps they come from Mind or the unconscious, same thing.

I’ll tell you sometimes the burden is heavy and we carry more than just for ourselves because we can.

You can’t lay it down until the task is done.

We have to take it for awhile until we can put the burden down where it should be.

You will feel like the only one in the Cosmos.

You know I’m talking to you.

To my Self.

We have been telling tales.

This is the time of the Ten of Bows, Responsibility.

We committed to seeing the quest through to the end.

Amor Fati
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Post by Z on Thu May 17, 2018 11:08 am

"To do anything by which you have earned money merely, is to have been truly idle...or worse."
                    Henry David Thoreau



-I skinny dipped in Walden Pond ....it was WONDERFULLY refreshing!!!
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Post by Sweet Release on Thu May 17, 2018 11:38 am

smelly wrote:While I do not recognize missions, we may be given tasks to do. Perhaps they come from Mind or the unconscious, same thing.

I’ll tell you sometimes the burden is heavy and we carry more than just for ourselves because we can.

You can’t lay it down until the task is done.

We have to take it for awhile until we can put the burden down where it should be.

Also, the perfect cop-out to avoid answering awkward questions is to claim they don't matter.

That's what's happening here with the UFO question and I'm not the only one un-stupid enough to see it.

As for spiritual enlightenment, a wise piece of advice I once heard went something like: If you suspect you might already be enlightened, keep holding your palm over an open candle flame for instant feedback.
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Post by smelly on Thu May 17, 2018 12:00 pm

ME I claim nothing, but you seem to have it all figured out.

So glad you are here to enlighten us all.

That must be why you are here.


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Post by Sweet Release on Thu May 17, 2018 12:00 pm

smelly wrote:ME I claim nothing, but you seem to have it all figured out.

So glad you are here to enlighten us all.

I'm not directing it at you, brother.
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Post by Cuan Scott on Thu May 17, 2018 12:04 pm

ME .. what's your take on why all the secrecy for so long? If their is nothing much to hide then why go to such trouble to hide it.Is it simply to allow the control system to maintain power at all costs? Is it the damage it would do to all of the various religions? What would happen if we suddenly all got free energy, instant healing of illness and disease? The vast majority of the land on the planet is 'owned' by the super wealthy. Wouldn't that give us all plenty of room to play? None of it makes sense other than some people want it this way.

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