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With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by hobbit on Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:41 am

First topic message reminder :

Dan,

I had no previous knowledge of, or intent to achieve that which occurred.

I climbed on top of a portal chamber (hence My interest in anything portal related) to photograph a crop circle adjacent....
When this reality went and I tripped across into the most fabulous none physical dimension of indescribeable Mandelbrot scene with sounds not of this world.
My physical suddenly began to be upset as I didn't exist, or the earth below.
I was still wondering and asking who are You to my physical entity when a third Me began talking and telling me to be calm and repeat what ever it told Me, which was it was Me from 5D.

I had lots explained, but can only recall that which I repeated .
All of this time My physical entity was really quite funny telling the other two to shut up and it wanted to be back in 3D.

My higher self ( in 5d) is that called father.
My 3D self ( physical) is Earth to be.
My 4D self is ( consciousness) spirit, as such.

I didn't want to return , the love is immense.

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Sweet Release on Mon May 14, 2018 9:05 am

Does the Princess have a public persona and a private persona?

If she were indeed a 'special being' I would imagine she masks her true qualities from casual observers.

You know what I'm getting at...does she communicate with you as an ethereal being in private?

You flinched when she said "I'll give you problems you'll never forget."

Are you afraid of her?

Why is Ron cheering the ELE and how does Princess feel about it?

Any more details about what happened in Colorado?

How do you know about the Holocaust/portal story? Can you expand on it?
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Post by dan on Mon May 14, 2018 9:10 am

ME,

Fair enough..... not bad questions.....

The Holocaust/portal story I made up, just like every other story.  

The world appears to be full of lemons.  How do we turn them into lemonade?  Ask yourself...... ask me..... you’ll get the hang of it.  

When we went down to St Catherine’s Island, last year, Jaynie G asked one of the teachers, standing on the beach, if she had ever met the Princess. This teacher, we knew, had been working with the Princess for a couple of years.

I said, wait a minute, what do mean by ‘meet’?

Jaynie’s response was something like...... if you know that a person likes chocolate, then, in that regard, you have met them.

On the other side the Princess says that she is a beast. I believe it. Does that answer your question? Ron is a frog and Kashmir is a cheetah.



(cont.......)


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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Mon May 14, 2018 9:20 am

“Let go over a cliff, die completely, and then come back to life - after that you cannot be deceived.”

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Mon May 14, 2018 9:27 am

99, no one has a play book, we all have pieces of the book. The pieces you don’t want to retrieve are the ones you have to die to find to finish the book.

How many here are prepared to die right now to know?

Anyone representing they understand all this is full of horse shit.

You better find humility or you will find nothing.

Guarantee nothing comes without great humility.

I think the Jman said that.

The true master is the one sweeping up at Area 51, no one hardly in human authority knows anything really.

You want to know what’s REALLY up, talk to the help.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Sweet Release on Mon May 14, 2018 9:34 am

dan wrote:On the other side the Princess says that she is a beast.  I believe it.  Does that answer your question?  Ron is a frog and Kashmir is a cheetah.  

No, but I'm appreciating your effort to answer.

My finally batch of questions for now (wouldn't want to bore you too much with my insatiable interest and curiosity):

Ron’s last rap seemed to indicate that you were given information and then didn’t remember it when you awoke. Is this connected to the surprise revelation that there was a third time you declined to go through the portal?

Either way, do you feel like you have been given information by him or those connected to him that you are meant to recall at a later date?

You seem to be trying to make people understand that mind is primary and matter is secondary. That material phenomena is an illusory projection of the mind. While I agree this is true, it is also a clever way to deflect questions about non-human intelligences and their influence on humanity. Because, if we dismiss them as ‘just illusory projections of the mind’, then the same could be said about other humans, too. Yet we’re interested in the origins and behaviour of other human beings. Why are we not meant to display any basic curiosity and seek answers from you, Ron and co. about these non-human intelligences?

Does the 'phenomenology problem' Ron is supposed to have mentioned back in the 90s (?) have something to do with the ability of the human mind to manifest what it conceives?

I'm wondering if the root cause of all this suppression of the paranormal reality is an understanding or belief that it would be dangerous for Johnny Punchclock to be aware of his own creative potential, or a fear by the elite who are suppressing the information that if the average man knew his innate power, the control, exploitation and 'harvesting' of the many by the few would end once and for all.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Mon May 14, 2018 9:56 am

ME,

Johnny punchclock v the elite........?  

I would say that both suppositions are accurate.  

Now, let’s talk about influence....... how does one person influence another.......... by all means imaginable ...... and then some.....

One person who influenced me considerably was the nearest approximation to a guru I ever had was Bob Clark, an old hippie, who lived with his family in Baltimore.  He has since passed.  

Bob had many gurus.  Bob compared me to a nuclear reactor with many control rods.  Whatever goes for me, goes for you all, as well...... for better or worse, but mostly for the better, we hope and pray.  


1:50.........

What was your next question........?  

Something about phenomenology........

Or more specifically about alien intelligences.  

There are no alien intelligences.  We are all family...... believe it or don’t.

Wait....... mama don’t allow no curiosity around here?

If I’m not the most curious guy you’d want to meet, I’d hate to see the guy who is more curious than me.

There are no aliens, except all of us who have been alienated from our Source. The so called aliens are much less alienated than are we.

The Princess is here to conduct us back to the Source. She has conducted me, and I’ve never even seen a portal.


(cont......)


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Post by Sweet Release on Mon May 14, 2018 10:56 am

dan wrote:There are no alien intelligences.  We are all family...... believe it or don’t.

I carefully chose the term 'non-human intelligences'.

I'm talking greys, mantoids, reptilians et al.

What are they?

dan wrote:The Princess is here to conduct us back to the Source.  She has conducted me, and I’ve never even seen a portal.

If you remember, please ask her sometime if she has ever said: "And then you will learn how to read," and clicked her fingers before the light show commenced.

Failing that, I would like to know if she likes chocolate...


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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Mon May 14, 2018 11:05 am

C’mon, ME,

We have met the aliens, and they are us.  

How many time do I have to repeat myself?

Aliyah is an alien, and she is my best friend.

Deep down, she arrange for me, and I arranged for her.

You arranged for me, and I arranged for you.

But, ME, before I forget it, I have a news flash for all of us, straight from our director of operations.......

Jack Sarfatti has been convinced that Joe’s machine actually works.

If that isn’t Disclosure, I’d hate to know what is.



(cont.......)


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Post by Sweet Release on Mon May 14, 2018 11:08 am

dan wrote:C’mon, ME,

We have met the aliens, and they are us.  

How many time do I have to repeat myself?

My next door neighbor might be me, but I still want to know why he slashes my tyres 2 or 3 times a year.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Mon May 14, 2018 11:09 am

Gees, thanks Dan.

You have an invitation...


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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by hobbit on Mon May 14, 2018 11:12 am

I am all ears waiting to know if I be gonna be all eyes????

144 is Fibonacci, which is pure Vedic.

144 is part of a sequence leading to pure geometry based golden ratio.

The most powerful portal I have yet found has 89 , 55 implosion over 34 outrush.
I can thus accept that in geometry terms We may be nearing a very large galatic portal where 144 occurs, thus altering the outcomes.

In a totally interactive universe where the outcomes are determined by the inflowing information, I can treat with utter contempt any notion of human carnage .

I leave such to clowns such as trump who has enabled multiple Palastinian slaughters.

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Cuan Scott on Mon May 14, 2018 11:29 am

Dan, ME

Thank you. Great Convo..

Smelly,

Love this .. GREAT! The Magical Mystery Tour I get it, I just want to know where the ticket office is..

Anyone with a map and directions I would be most grateful. Don't think Smartphones have an app for this
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Post by smelly on Mon May 14, 2018 11:39 am

CS, the birds sang to me all night, they told me everything.

I think they may have been pulling my leg.

Mockingbirds aren’t as easy to understand as Blackbirds.

You don’t need a ticket to ride this train.

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Sweet Release on Mon May 14, 2018 11:45 am

dan wrote:C’mon, ME,

We have met the aliens, and they are us.  

How many time do I have to repeat myself?

Aliyah is an alien, and she is my best friend.  

Deep down, she arrange for me, and I arranged for her.  

You arranged for me, and I arranged for you.  

But, ME, before I forget it, I have a news flash for all of us, straight from our director of operations.......

Jack Sarfatti has been convinced that Joe’s machine actually works.  

If that isn’t Disclosure, I’d hate to know what is.  

Great news (I guess).

But what happens now?

Approximately nothing and it will never be mentioned again?

(While Lord Rothschild silently acquires the exclusive rights to the device to use as a personal interdimensional gloryhole?)
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Post by dan on Mon May 14, 2018 11:53 am

ME,

It’s all ok.  Lord Rothschild does his thing, we do ours.  

Jack will be Jack.  He will come up with a formula to explain Joe’s machine.  

But you and I will know that the Princess sprinkled pixie dust on Joe’s machine.  

No one else knows that but you and me.  

Trust me, Jack has a big vociferous following. News will get out that we have something new under the Sun.

Jack has a very secretive side. So do most scientists. With Joe’s machine, we are catching the scientists in our tender trap. They are being trapped into admitting that this must be the BPW.

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Post by Sweet Release on Mon May 14, 2018 11:55 am

dan wrote:No one else knows that but you and me.  

"Not here, Dan! People can see us!"  Razz
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Post by dan on Mon May 14, 2018 12:00 pm

Not to worry, ME, it’s all in the family.

Yes, there is a tender trap, and all it took was a little pixie dust.  

And there is more of that, where it came from.  

We try to use it as sparingly as possible, because faith is much more powerful, and it lasts forever.  

Once you have experienced faith, you will never want to experience anything else.  No?  Yes?  

Once you have experienced faith, you are portal ready.  Your are ready to jump into the black hole in the sky.  

I’m not quite ready.  I’m from Missouri.  I trust God.  All the rest of you pay cash.  


3:45.........

Once again, I’m reminded of the story of Betty Andreason.....

The little grey guys trooped into her kitchen.  Their leader demanded burnt meat.   Betty threw a patty onto a skillet, and turned the heat on high.  As the smoke filled the kitchen, they seemed puzzled.   No, he expressed, I want a truth that has been tested by fire.  

If this is the first and last ufo story that we hear, we’re lucky.  


(cont......)


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Post by Sweet Release on Mon May 14, 2018 12:19 pm

dan wrote:Trust me, Jack has a big vociferous following.  News will get out that we have something new under the Sun.  

Jack has a very secretive side.  So do most scientists.  With Joe’s machine, we are catching the scientists in our tender trap.  They are being trapped into admitting that this must be the BPW.  

That really is great news, then.

I'll watch with interest.
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Post by smelly on Mon May 14, 2018 1:29 pm

Burnt meat you say?!

Hmmmm.

*sniff* *sniff*

Tested by fire?

Why, do we taste better?
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Post by dan on Mon May 14, 2018 1:45 pm

Yes, smelly, why are we so tasty?......

Which do you prefer? Free range food, or hot house food?

We, smelly, are free range. The Monad is already licking its chops.

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Post by Cuan Scott on Mon May 14, 2018 1:59 pm

We've got lots of blackbirds here Smelly, no mockingbirds though. We've got horses, dogs, cats, red squirrels, rabbits, hares and they all have tickets ... not me Sad

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Post by smelly on Mon May 14, 2018 2:06 pm

CS, sounds like a slice of Heaven, I have my own, though much smaller.

Mine is a suburban farm, maybe one day a real one.
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Post by Z on Mon May 14, 2018 2:07 pm

Tell them the MOST important part Dan...
THE GIFT she gave!
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Post by dan on Mon May 14, 2018 3:58 pm

Have I already forgotten?
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Dan .. thanks for the chat tonight, really appreciated and now I've lots to think about and study. We hope you enjoyed your feline OBE Smile

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