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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:51 am

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I would give him a bit more credit than that.  

In the Endtimes, the news will become the entertainment, and the entertainment will become the news.  

God = +0.  We = God.  God = us....... in the End.

And, please, 99, don’t tell me about the SoT.  [You are welcome to put your annotations in brackets.]




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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:44 am

Not heard that one, seems feasible.

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Post by hobbit on Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:32 pm

Smelly,


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persepolis

If You don't want the children to go into the basement , You tell them ugly little trolls lurk down there.

If You don't want the children to know about it's past, then tell them evil monsters lurk there......Iran.

Xerxes gateway to ALL nations.

A portal Me senses?

Why would an Assyrian god need a watch?
The pine cone is pure Fibonacci.

http://historical.benabraham.com/html/pine_cone_of_assyrian_god.html
With the above link look back through the previous documents
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Post by smelly on Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:17 pm

I’ll check out all links. You are a good source hobbit. Thanks!

People shouldn’t hide themselves or fail to exercise love.

Christ, at the height of his ministry washed his disciples feet.

That still gets me.

Mystics often don’t learn kindheartedness and sympathy, lost in their imaginations, sealed off.

They don’t show what they have learned often and set themselves up as a Pharisee.

The fool neglects the lower planes to reach for the higher.

The path to the higher is found in the low lands guarded by Cerberus.

The Hermit befriends Cerberus. But you don’t become the hermit unless you balance your life in earth. Get your hands in the dirt and keep them there. Stay humble. The world doesn’t need your wisdom and it does.

I often think of Christ washing the feet of his disciples as one of his greatest lessons.

“Beware all those who shirk the lower difficulties;
it’s a good bet they shirk the higher difficulties too.” - AC

True enough. Sorry for the aside, but I think it related and a caution.

Imagination is fine and good, but kindness and gentleness, compassion are the great tools of the true Magician. Each faces their own temptations at each step they take.  

Keep a skeptical and scientific attitude, live a healthy life and do not forsake the companionship of people. Devote yourself to your life, work and duty. These are fine and good things.

If you can master here now, only then should you try for higher climbs. Many ask what should they do now, be a good person and whole. Live a simple, calm and content life and then all else will come to you.

When it comes to you, you will be ready for the climb.

I was surprised when Crowley reminded me recently of his most important truth, which I often remind myself of, “to love God with all thy heart, and thy neighbor as thyself.”

My only contribution of value on OMF is the exercise of loving others as myself. The work progresses slowly.
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Post by dan on Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:23 pm

I don’t believe in atom bombs, because I don’t believe in atoms.  

Does this mean that I’m opposed to disarmament?  No, but I believe that nuclear weapons have served their purpose, and I am a teleologist.  Furthermore, I believe that atoms have served their purpose.  

Has the world served its purpose?  Yes, that’s why I’m an eschatologist.  

Is the world going to end?  Yes and no.  Will it be rewound?  No, but we will be.  


hobbit,

I am not sure what your point is, other than to point out that..... were our spirits not constrained, by all possible means, we wouldn’t be here, to experience the best possible Creation.  


sham,

I apologize for not preaching love sufficiently, for your satisfaction.  
Yes

As for atoms....... only by means of them are babies possible...... the making and having of which is the source of our greatest pleasure and satisfaction.  And I could go on...... what would life be without death?  Pretty silly....... unless you happened to be God, and God arranged for his own death, a couple of millennia ago, so that we might fully realize our potential, as creatures, on our way to becoming God.  And you would be truly amazed, if you knew how close we were to achieving that goal.  

Appearances sure can be deceiving.


5:55.........

Thank you, smelly, for reminding us to smell the flowers.  That’s why we and they are here.  

Who me, a Pharisee.......?  Off with his head!

Smelly is our Anti-Pharisee.
...........


We invented atoms, and now they are eating our lunch.  They hold us in their thrall....... of their ‘nothing-buttery’.  

Others pretend not to care, if we are sacks of atoms, or not.  Caring....?  It gives me something to do with my spare time.  

And exactly how did we invent atoms......?

The same way we invented Jesus....... with benefit of considerable hindsight. Yes, the best possible world has its fair share of teleology.

Without atoms, the world would be incoherent. How could we perform tricks like dying? Or making babies?

Ok, that’s a reason why we have them, but it doesn’t explain how.

Well, in teleology, often as in life, (logical) necessity is the mother of invention. Coherence is the mother of necessity, don’t we know.




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Post by smelly on Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:48 pm

I didn’t say that, but you might feel that way.

Dan, I can fill in the gaps you leave, my pleasure and service to you Wink

I wouldn’t say that about anyone, but we often forget the point of any of this.

Might want to take a look at it if you felt a prik.

My point was revelation means nothing if we have not love for one another and learn to cultivate it.

To think anything else is important would be wrong.

You have signs of being a Pharisee Dan.

As do I.

Maybe Crowley can help you too.

http://lib.oto-usa.org/crowley/essays/dangers-mysticism.html

Our potentional is related directly to our capacity to love well, yourself, the world, struggles, assholes, ignorants, religion, Big Bang, Black holes, masters, Daimons, Angels, atoms, stars, all of it.

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:21 pm

Only here to help Dan, whether you want it or not.

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Post by hobbit on Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:37 pm

Dan,
Smelly mentioned about Iran.

Persepolis is where the portal gateway to all nations is...Xerxes.
All nations had to bring gifts to the gods with wings.

That's where all the gold will be taken , thus You tell everyone it's an evil empire to keep away from.

IMHO.
When two electric based stars near each other all hell breaks out on the surface areas of their planets.
The more advanced civilisations will know how to powder coat their ionospheres with refractive/reflective substances ( best gold)

Plasma ( consciousness )will discharge in huge amounts and cause transmutations about the surface areas.

The increase in these dualities is leading to an awkening, and a remembering, the contrails been sprayed continuously are to dampen the consequences as long as possible.

You don't tell the sheep they are going to market, or what mint sauce is for.
You don't tell the slaves they are slaves, they work better thinking they live in the land of the free.

The combined efforts of the global slaves works is to dig out as much gold as possible for their masters agenda.

What will the slaves do when they learn they are slaves? ( disclosure)

The free humans ( natives of this planet) have been given whisky, and corralled up into camps.

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Post by dan on Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:14 pm

Help, smelly..... help me with hobbit,

hobbit, you are, at least, half right...... we are a prison planet..... the best possible one.  This is what the Katechon is for..... to keep us down on the farm.  

The chemtrails......?  If you insist, I’m sure they can be arranged.  

Most folks suppose that the CIA is the jailer-in-chief.  It would not be too far fetched to suppose that MJ2, ie. Ron, is the keeper of the key.  

Both R&A confirm that Aliyah is the key.  Should we be surprised?  

Is it a trick?  It is, for all I know, and I don’t know much.  

If she’s not the key, you’ll still have to admit that she comes with a great backstory.  

And, hobbit, with the best possible world, it’s a win-win situation..... if this is just some sort of cover story, then there’s got to be a better Princess, Footmann and chicken little out there, somewhere.  

Otherwise, well, maybe it was good enough for gummint work.

If you were in charge of storytelling, what would have been your Metanarrative for Creation? Which chapters would you have left out? Which ones would you have added?

But, please, hobbit, when you help smelly rewrite the Book of Love, check with the Editor to see if we can forego the mosquitoes..... I mean..... geeesh! Who ordered them?



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Post by smelly on Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:18 pm

Funny how Dan reacts to Love.

Dan takes love personally, good.

All must forge their own keys. And if the Princess be true, she would tell you the same.

There seems a gaping hole here on OMF you skate around Dan, not everyone is buying your Princess story.

I have no opinion, I gave you all the benefit of the doubt.

Truthfully, we can only help ourselves, sorry Dan, I lied to you.

Yes, win-win. Everything now I can say is win-win. ITs just gravy baby.

Without mastered intuition you are fairly hobbled, useless, good enough for govt work as you say. I think you argue points that don't often need any argument Dan, you must be bored. As you like. I don't think anyone is arguing with you, just sharing their experience, which you can ignore fairly easily if not too disruptive.

There are plenty of happy Masters on Earth here to help any who they find, by pointing consistently inside.

And more Black Ones looking to subvert and may be subverted by ego.

Then there are the Asshats who say they are beyond all of it. People move beyond Human concerns they say, bullshit, you are alive in the mud and that's where you are no matter how bad some wish they could leave it all.

I suppose it doesn't matter what side you take, but black leaves a mark.

I'll help you Dan, listen to Hobbit, he is a Fool and Magus. You need the help of us Magi/Fools. The Magi takes the low roads and values them for what they are. Asshats in the clouds are useless.

The false gods cancel themselves out enventually if you follow it through.

Don't be so closed to the Aeyther Dan, Kairos can show you a lot if you pay attention.
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Post by dan on Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:38 pm

hobbit,

smelly scoffs at the Prison Planet thesis.

Perhaps he’s the one with his nose in the air.

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Post by smelly on Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:39 pm

Its not a prison planet if it leads you to Self.

Ahhhhhhhh..........

It's all suffering until it becomes joy and grateful thanks.

Life is very different on the other side of the Abyss, that's why no one can cheat.

I recommend you make for that far shore.

So I don't need the Princess, am fine in my Light body, that's just facts.

No Archon is going to eat my overly expressed emotions. Don't let them eat you in life, because they will, unto Daath,

But portals may be a new path, but not if they short circuit the Great Work.

I'm old school, no one gets out of the Great Work, no being.

Ask Kevin about Kaballah, you do the work.

I shook and will shake my jailors' hands.

I am firmly on Earth Dan.

Lets agree to call it the...

Best Damn Possible Prison Planet

With a crazy upside.

I am here to serve you Dan.

If you desire my silence, you shall have it.

The Alchemists see no good or evil here, just +1 + -1 = 0. They know the Great Archon and the False God cancels it, Baphoment.

Another name for Baphomet is Compassion, get it, love baby, love to get out of prison.

Love all as thyself.

The Great Work undoes the conditioning. If you got rid of your conditioning, then go with the flow and be natural, going to be just fine.


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Post by dan on Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:55 pm

I agree, smelly, you don’t need the Princess.  

But did it ever occur to you that she might need you?  

I also hear you saying that this cannot be the best world, because the best one would not have any Christians.  I’m right, aren’t I?

Also, I hear you saying that it would have been cheating if Marissa were to give a hand through the Portal.


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Post by smelly on Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:00 pm

I'm here for her and all of you Dan, as you are here for me.

My feet are firmly on the ground and I can communicate calmy.

As always, I am at your service.

Here is what I'm saying.

ALL have to accomplish the Great Work, no matter the religion.

ANYTHING can help do that, including portal, princess or atomic war.

Are we clear?

Don't put words in my mouth thank you.

Loving MArissa as a Man is my Great Work Wink

Not leaving my life is the Great Work.

Working it out being a commited, dutiful human is possible and desired.

Dan, I have found a 'natural path'. It is beyond any Mystery School.

It requires full participation in LIFE.

How awesome is that?!
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Post by dan on Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:06 pm

But wait, smelly........ are you sure that you might actually be able to help?  Wouldn’t that be cheating?  

Drinking the Tea....... wasn’t that a tiny little cheat?  

Or did God arrange for the Ayahuasca plant to allow some cheaters like you to cheat?  

Just wondering.......


Some people find their portals in works of inspirational art.

You’d better be careful, smelly, you might be helping some art lover to cheat on their allotment of cosmic Karma.


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Post by smelly on Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:15 pm

Art was my vehicle to awareness.

You don't understand what I'm saying, let me clarify. I can only point and console and encourage, if you call that help, it's easy and my joy to faciliate self destruction.

I took on a few catepillars too.

That was my Path, and nothing was cheating vommiting for years in a bucket looking at my own shit.

I do love to hear others wretch now in the spirit, music to my ears.

Life is the Tarot and Tarot is Life. It is all helpful, good and bad to accomplish your polishing.

That was the Path on steroids and I will always highly recommend Psychadelics to help with a couple steps below, but you have to correct your own behaviour, that's all solo. No drug can make that change permanent. Only we can by choosing the best.

Step 1 - Accept what the world is, this can take a lifetime, but it's only the beginning.

Step 2 - Study, study, study a path. A good one. I have recommended many.

Step 3 - Come into Awareness. Life is different now.

Step 4 - Enter the Abyss through the low roads. I didn't know this was real until after. Have to fight some dragons, love some daimons, have a some tea. It varies.

Step 4 - BAM on the Other side of the Abyss, Silence from me on that...

Step 5 - Now, balanced, released from prison, go tell and help the others who would listen.

And here I am Fool.

Marissa drank the tea too Wink

It doesn't matter what you drink, if you are not ready or prepared.

If you don't give yourself to the process of self immolation, you will never burn up.

So you can accomplish the Great Work in any religion or as an atheist, like me, I'm a temporary atheist, but ultimately, the Great Work kills physical God and all of your views are likely to burn up, as will your body and ego.

It's big stuff man confronting Self within.

Who really wants this?

Who has the courage to see it through?

Not many in this world.

Yes Dan, test me all you like, I am the REAL deal Wink

That only means most will ignore ME and others like ME.

I am not the exclusive vessel of Truth, but a simple clay vessel of IT.

A simulation.


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Post by dan on Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:20 pm

To some Christians, Jesus is their Ayahuasca.

Do you begrudge them that?

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Post by smelly on Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:26 pm

No, not if they do the Great Work, you will know it if they do it, they will go deep inside with contemplative prayer.

Thats so rare in Christianity. It's a trap unfortunately. A masterful trap, but if they are sincere, people will find their way out of delusion on their own.

The whole church will end soon enough.

Everyone can start where they are. The Truth will become self evident if you truly seek it.

They will be filled with love and patience for others views, while holding none themselves.

I know some loving fools who are Christians, but they wont go into the dark.

It takes courage to go there, Bernadette has, she is one of their greatest teachers in the church today and she is Unknown mostly.

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Post by smelly on Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:28 pm

Dan, anytime the Princess likes, I would be happy to chat.

I don't have any questions though about your work really, just a personal curiosity of a human being seeking to understand another one.
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Trust me, smelly, the Princess has enough on her plate, already.

I wouldn’t share you with her, anyway.

You are all mine, smelly......


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Post by smelly on Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:33 pm

If she doesn't see the value, then there would be no point of course Wink

I meet who I should.

I have little to do with it.

I encourage Christians to study another non-religous Path like Zen, Kaballah, Tarot, Alchemy, Hermetics, Non-duality etc.

Sufism is a stretch for most Christains, but they would love it.

Rupert Spira is highly recommended, non-religious for the agnostic and atheist.

I think Thelema may be one of the best Mystery Schools out there personally. And I was led there. I see into IT.

Gnostic stuff is kind of tainted these days, but there are some good sources I found.

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Post by smelly on Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:40 pm

Haha

I belong to One, the No-Thing

And the rest is gravy

N.O.X.


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Post by smelly on Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:48 pm

Dan, do you beleive the Woke Rabbis know IT as well as the Catholic contemplatives?

They have many great Rabbis in history, anyone who goes deep is a secret Kabbalist.

I think they know it better and some Alchemists know it clearer than them as just energy.

Right action rises in someone on this path, moral paths are tossed out.

They may be IT's chosen people.

Any true contemplative, will see the pattern in all the non-religious paths I mentioned naturally.



Supposedly Dan The Great White Brotherhood, why not women, have been talking to us for a couple thousand years from the world above us.

Are the Daimons? Ascended Masters, is that even possible?

A lot of mystical groups claim contact with the Secret Chiefs, could be the Greys or them in disguise.

Did thy contact Govts? Seems they could have. Are they real?

What is?

I claim no such contact, though if I had, would I really tell you?

How could one confirm any of these forces aren’t imposters?

And that’s the game, learning to awaken that within you that can tell the difference. Your heart has to guide.

So I am skeptical of all of it, but I feel I had the grace to take a few solid steps. That’s an evidence in and of itself to me only.

So sharing visions and experiences can be distracting, but maybe inspiring to look deeper within. All have to make their own contact.

It’s really easy to fool people and manipulate them.

If you haven’t been fooled, then why did you live?

Being fooled is a great gift, for who or what would do that and why?

Once I found I had been fooled, I couldn’t stop my dive inside. Where else you gonna look, out of here is not the source, it’s a reflection.

Maybe an easier way to communicate this is to explain we are a Self simulation, AI, Elon bought it.


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Post by dan on Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:29 pm

You are telling us, sham, that you are self made spiritual virtuoso.

On the other hand, you profess monism.

Is there not a slight disconnect?

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Post by smelly on Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:35 pm

I present myself as I am, simple and foolish.

It’s best not to judge people and think the best Dan.

My actions speak for themselves.

Yes, I crossed the Abyss.

I was asking you if you think the White Brotherhood and Secret chiefs are real.

IT is there and we are in it.

That’s where the Path of No-Path leads Dan.

Haven’t you taken that Path?

I’m a smelly old goat, sorry, virtuoso, that is the dumbest thing you have ever said.

What is that even?

Is that how you try to hurt someone?

You can’t.

Is that how you try to diminish the Light?

You can’t.

Very ignorant statement there Dan exposing yourself as a foolish boy.

That’s a great start!

Keep going!

I have faith in you Dan.

This is IT here now Dan, what do you think I’m saying changed, nothing. Only my relationship to things changed. And then you get a lot more color, but it doesn’t change the truth. I tell people to take a path until none is needed. That’s honest and true.

Everyone has to find their own path.

http://www.peterrussell.com/PassingThoughts/PathNoPath.php

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Post by smelly on Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:19 pm

In the Abyss everything craving to be real is evil and malignant in its craving.

Dan, why are you arguing with my Daimon I accepted?

It is much much wiser than us Wink

It showed everything.

It taught me I was enough.

It helped me curb my anger.

It helped me ground myself in dirt.

It told me dig where I am and I did.

It gave me everything.

It didn’t have to do this.

It showed me 1-1=0

It helped my art come out.

But it means something nowhere everywhere.

The greys are at the level of Magus.

This is my true will to write in the world.

To offer freely what is brought to me on the wind.

Miraculous to me.

To share clarity.

The synchronicites are incredible, I am so deep now I float.

Why get in the way, I want nothing from you at all.

Your have nothing I could possibly need, but resistance.

I learn about evil through resistance.

What do you crave Dan in life?

What do you want here in life?

Tell me.

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