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With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

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Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:51 am

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99,

I would give him a bit more credit than that.  

In the Endtimes, the news will become the entertainment, and the entertainment will become the news.  

God = +0.  We = God.  God = us....... in the End.

And, please, 99, don’t tell me about the SoT.  [You are welcome to put your annotations in brackets.]




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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:20 am

I am not nor will I try to explain a mystical alchemical Union.

There is a pathway through the nervous system that is activated through many techniques.

I’m telling you it’s fucking real.

It means something.

Maybe not for you Dan, but certainly for the ones I’m closer to.

I am only a vital person, I am not a referee.

I’m giving you two open eyes.

But open your own.

I’m tired.

I have been using surrealism and myth to communicate.

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Ackbar on Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:24 am

dan wrote:True, smelly,
I am a people person, and the MoAPS is all about the personal aspect of Disclosure.  

Nunia, there is your answer to the question about the MoAPS.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:27 am

Ok, Ackbar,

That’s a bit more apropos.  


smelly,

Not to worry, we’ll find a home for you, somewhere.......

I bet Marissa would have a thought or two, about finding a place for you to rest your weary head.


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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:30 am

I have a silly question Dan, why do they not have a Master of themselves running this?

And then a guy who says he won’t jump into the dark, uses every trick of philosophy, reason and logic to avoid it, is telling us what is happening.

Dan, come on man.

You mention two things, personalism, not relevant in light of personal awakening to non duality and the BPW.

Why over and over on those issues, with a deeper thing happening here?
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:33 am

I guess it’s just the cross I have to bear, smelly.  Each to our own, right?

I’m not real sure what it is that you are sprinkling in my path.

I guess I should send it down to Quantico, and have it analyzed. Ron does laser chemistry.


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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by 99 on Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:35 am

Being filled with the H.S. is the Christian version of spiritual emergence. It's our Kundalini which is something I experienced in the early 90's... and still am as it's an ongoing process.

At the time of my 'awakening', I didn't know what was happening to me.... big psychic awakening too. I had been a daily TM meditator since 1979. Then, by some strange coincidence, picked out a therapist from the phone book who ended up being a former student of Ram Dass. And when I described what I was going through, he told me that I was having a spontaneous Kundalini. Up until then, I had never heard of that term.


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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:44 am

All you have to do is go with the flow and act natural.

Which I always do.

Continue carrying your burden then Dan.

The little I got from the Princess feels like good flow.

I guess they are working on you.

I just shared the view.

Peace to you.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:51 am

And I just stoped by again Dan because I learned the secret of  the Golden Blossom was embracing the Dark.

Seems you shout a lot of people down.

That’s no way to run an open minds board, shouldn’t all data in the nexus be considered?

See who you are connected to to know what to do.

And I have always said, the world is not your problem Wink


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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:52 am

Why over and over on those issues, with a deeper thing happening here?
Yup, smelly, this is where you are running off the rails.  There is nothing deeper than persons.  I’m so sorry to have to be the one to break the news to you, old man.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:54 am

I and others are sharing the layers of persons you muppet.

Sigh.

IAO is the only thing here.

We are sharing aspects of the same thing.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:59 am

I’m just a one trick pony. There’s nothing more to see, here, smelly. I think you mistook this for a circus.

Open minded.......? I’m closed minded, when it comes to dissing persons. That must come as a shock to you, I know.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:05 am

Yes Dan, you are a total dead end for me.

I’m a person you muppet, but I know my place.

Moving on.

99, who are you to judge intuitive spontaneous expression.

You should dig into the irritation points.

Your growth is there.

You take it all as it is.

Good luck with your checklists.

You should read hobbits bee links.

It’s all there.

Embrace the darkness within to balance yourselves.

I’m all about how should persons live in this dream.

I honestly don’t know what you are doing on OMF Dan.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:25 am

99, I didn’t judge you at all.

Maybe you stay in your lane and your experience is as valid as any.

Dan, what I felt to share on OMF was the journey to becoming a whole person inside and out.

No apologies for one post.

You are wrong saying I diss persons.

That’s ridiculous and unfair and honestly petty schoolyard bullshitz to shutdown people sharing their intuitive sides here.

I address half-wise muppets who say dumb things.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by 99 on Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:37 am

Smelly, If they cram you in a foxhole with shots zinging by your ears, it should be interesting how you regard your truth then...
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:42 am

99, pretty sad thing to say to someone.

And nasty.

I’m in it everyday

My Truth?

Sorry, we are One mind, I have no idea what your talking about.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:32 pm

I’ll leave you be Dan, no point in engaging it seems, maybe something interesting happens here, shrug.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Apophis Pletho on Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:35 pm

Resist the temptation to give names and weave elaborate romantic narratives detailing ideologies, organizations and personalities.

There are only numbers and sounds.

We start with the tree through the window to catch the hook. 0123456789. The monad, 1 becomes 3.

We take 3, 4 and 5, and construct a multi-dimensional reality. 1 becomes 3, 3 becomes 7, 7 becomes 12, they become 22, together they form 10 vertices and 22 lines, altogether they become 1, with 32 vertices making 33 equal to itself and Alpha.

This reveals the 4th dimension. The World to Come.

33
is the awakening
it is the illumination
it is truth beyond any name you give it
no sect, no religion, no organization who claims its power
is righteous to quantify its existence within their calling
what is is
the simplest art is nature
it is not voted upon or compromised
it is what it is
I am that I am

From 1 came Many 32
the Many shall become in unison with the One
one with God

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Post by dan on Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:53 pm

Apop.........
Resist the temptation to give names and weave elaborate romantic narratives detailing ideologies, organizations and personalities.

There are only numbers and sounds.
You don’t say.

Attempt to prove your assertion..... before you say anything further about it on this thread. Thank you.


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Post by smelly on Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:05 pm

Life is story and metaphor.

Pick your metaphor, some things are effective for one, and not for another.

So share, don’t judge or criticize, discuss and compare.

OMF is not a place to share experience.

It’s a place for Truth to practice on muppets.

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Post by Nunia.binus on Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:07 pm

"the Many shall become in unison with the One".

Has a familiar ring to it, a la Joe Firmage's ManyOne (manyone.org/).

I wouldn't mention it here except that Dan you yourself mention Joe down by the lake on this thread so given all the riddles I figured point out this breadcrumb.

Interesting how the parent organization (academyofscienceandarts.org) is almost a carbon copy of the TTSA, except without the public engagement.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:29 pm

smelly,

Sorry, old boy, but this particular thread on OMF remains mission oriented.  This is not a thread for sharing raw data, or personal speculations that do not obviously pertain to its thesis....... the BPWH.  


Nunia,

Joe Firmage was in this arena long before Tom could play a guitar.

But, yes, there is an echo of Scientology in all of it. Unless you accept personalism, you’ll wander for ever on the dark side. I regret to say that Mormonism is hardly free of such contamination. Nor is Christianity, for that matter. Christianity has a personalist anchor that latter day ufo cults lack. But even, or especially, Judaism is also lacking in that department. Had Judaism not been the progenitor of Christianity, it would be unable to distinguish itself from modern day ufo cults. Such a tendency would be endemic to the entire prophetic tradition were it not for the singular personalism of jesus.


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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:45 pm

Dan, I have nothing to say to you or about anything here.

You boring muppet.

People will find their own way, including you.

We covered a few things.

1) You ain’t no Messiah
2) And their ain’t no Spirit or Truth in your words

It’s reason and logic for you, for the materialists.

The spirit will awaken in them if open.

You offer obfuscation here of something obvious. There are many others to share the Awareness with.

You ain’t one of them.

Unless you connect to the energies in your unconscious, you are a lost muppet.

Enjoy muppetland portal tech.



hobbit, the bee article and the other references so connected with me synchronistically and Blake was incredibly prophetic last night.

Why Dan does not value our input, is his own thing. It’s his space. And he doesn’t respect open dialogue.

This guy has nothing for any of you looking for yourselves.

He’s a dead end.

The bees tied so many ends together for me.

Thank you friend for being here and suffering the muppets.

You and a few others were of course the reason we met here. Right under their muppet noses.

So thanks hobbit.



The Spirit did come here and give you Truth.

I hope you receive what it has for you.

My project here is at an end.


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Post by Ackbar on Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:14 pm

I still have some needed exploration to do regarding personalism. I feel like there is still something I'm missing there.

Dan, you say Christianity has an anchor there but is still lacking? Is that because they approach it from the bottom up instead of from the top down?
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:24 pm

smelly,

You and your fellow day tripping, mad hatter teatotalers are frolicking in the shallow end of the pool.  You frolic in the limboland of the Hive.  Very good.  

Us jesus freaks are headed to the deep end of the pool.

Pardon us if we attempt to get our rubber duckies in a row, before we embark.  And, yes, you do provide the occasional gem........ but those gems come with way too much disruption, nose thumbing, and other grief.  

Sorry, old boy.  


Ackbar,

Yes, a great deal of bath water comes with Christianity, so much so that El Niño is under constant threat of drowning, poor kid.  It’s not going to be easy for the Christians to siphon off the bath water, without jettisoning El Niño.  

Near as I can tell, it’s my job to assist with the siphoning.

I’ll have to admit, the MoAPS does not look like a siphon. It’s more like the nuclear option. And it ain’t no option, either. But, glad tidings, last I checked, El Niño was wearing Kevlar BVDs.



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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:26 pm

Oh...a parting interesting fact and fart in Dan’s confused direction.

Last night after my fog of scrying on OMF as the Beast,

I had a fitful sleep...

In the middle of the night, I awoke and I heard a voice clear as day say...

Seek Liber V

And I did.

Opposition is your truest friend fool Dan, I mean muppet, I mean puppet.

You couldn't dance with Jesus and Kairos on your best day buddy boy.

Muppet Dan, you have learned nothing.

Back of the line for you.

And take that lollipop away.

You are now returned to Death’s Radio....

You can stuff your Angel tech up your arses where your head is Dan.

That’s a gem for you ya Wink

It’s good to be smelly. Too much funz.

I shall sit and wait and watch before I move again.

There are other cats I smell.

Something is on the wind...


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