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Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:58 pm

First topic message reminder :

And, wait again, how does egolessnes differ from being born again.....?  

It differs only superficially.  The form may appear very different, but not the underlying cause.

Personal realization of truth.........?

I’m arriving back in Baltimore.........
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Post by dan on Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:49 am

I’m only gradually beginning to realize why I went to Fayetteville......

Basically it was to confront Kevin, and, in the process, to determine if Sophie was with me, or not.  I think she’s with me, still.  

I am asking, now, for Monday to be just a three way conversation with me and Doug.  

The Princess has asked me to post this.......
https://www.gofundme.com/cuban-crocodiles .
Recent storms have changed the Cuban Crocodile habitat in uncertain ways, and local researchers lack the means to assess damage to include influx of American Crocodiles that hybridize with the Cuban Crocodiles.  

Kashmir World Foundation (KwF) has been developing custom drones for conservation and protection of endangered species worldwide. KwF's mission is to educate, train and equip local biologists with custom drones for researching, monitoring and protecting for wildlife.  Funds are urgently required to support an aerial survey of Cuban Crocodile habitat. Kashmir Robotics autonomous aerial systems are capable of performing relevant surveys, but to comply with Cuban laws they must be assembled and operated by Cubans. To accomplish this, a Fly for Conservation Workshop will be will be hosted at Cuban Crocodile breeding center on drone design, assembly, operation, maintenance, and optimization.

I need to be a little careful here.......

Hollywood is riddled with land mines.  Nobody’s watching anyone else’s back...... law of the jungle...... Kevin is playing at that game, but maybe not actually doing it.  I’ll have to trust Ron and the Princess on that one.  

Right now, it seems that we’re competing with the DeLonge operation.  That is the appearance, and we do want to save the appearances, don’t we?  

Maybe we should call this...... operation saving the appearances.  


12:45(FT)...........

Just had a conversation with Princess about a show tomorrow.......

The tentative title would be....... Logos Redivivus.  The special guest will be Kashmir, back by popular demand......

The Princess has been after me to study up on the Rumi/Shams event....... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shams_Tabrizi#Shams.E2.80.99_first_encounter_with_Rumi
One day Rumi was reading next to a large stack of books. Shams Tabriz, passing by, asked him, "What are you doing?" Rumi scoffingly replied, "Something you cannot understand." (This is knowledge that cannot be understood by the unlearned.) On hearing this, Shams threw the stack of books into a nearby pool of water. Rumi hastily rescued the books and to his surprise they were all dry. Rumi then asked Shams, "What is this?" To which Shams replied, "Mowlana, this is what you cannot understand." (This is knowledge that cannot be understood by the learned.
So I said to the Princess....... if I’m supposed to be Shams, are you supposed to be Rumi?  No, she said, Kashmir is Rumi.  

I protested........ it would take me ten years to explain the Best Possible World Hypothesis to Kashmir.  Ok, said Princess, I’ll give you 10 minutes over lunch, before her play date at the zoo, tomorrow.  

Hmmm........

And we’ll be going live at around 4:30, tomorrow........

Of course, Kashmir will also be playing Shams to my Rumi..... it’s all so simple that it can appear to be complicated. We’re not actually saving the appearances...... we’re saving the simplicity, with a little help from Kashmir.

I’d better study up on Kashmir’s explanation of the solar system. She stole my whole show, on the Panama trip. Who could possibly doubt that she won’t be able to do an encore?


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Post by dan on Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:50 am

As far as I know, the GtM is still on at about 4:30EST.  I don’t yet have a password for it.  

The two foci are likely to be Kashmir and Rumi, and also the logos redivivus.  Kashmir was adamant...... seriously, gogo, the world is not going to end.  This might be seen as bad news for an eschatologist.  But, no, I agree with Kashmir.  However, I would like to know how it’s not really going to end,  although it might be looking that way.

The Princess still has a sore throat, so it might be mostly just Kashmir and me on FaceTime.  It might be recorded....... soon.  

Kashmir does not yet have a favorite Rumi poem, so I might read to her from here....... http://www.khamush.com/poems.html .


noon..........

Kashmir and I had about a half hour on FaceTime........

It was not recorded for posterity, so there may be conflicting accounts.....

Kashmir is in first grade, and she just had her first computer class.  


2..........

Kashmir spoke of the parts of the computer...... a memory stick, a mouse, a screen and a cpu, which in her case was a raspberry pi.  


5:20........

I asked where she might go after here.  The did not hesitate to say that she was looking forward to going back to leopardland.  

But before that, I asked her about how the world was not going to end.  Yes, she said, the world won’t end, but the Sun will.  The Sun will shrink, and then redistribute itself back amongst the stars.  The same process is reversed at the beginning.  She likened the stars, in that intermediate stage, to baby leopards.

That was the cosmological crux of our conversation on FaceTime.  


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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Guest on Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:22 am

This is never going to happen, is it?

Any momentum that seemed to be picking up over the past year - here on this forum, there in the sketchy Delonge initiative or anywhere in one of the myriad army of disclosure teams out there - has now ground to a halt.

The illusion wins out again. The machinery grinds on. Nothing changes.

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Post by jofo on Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:15 pm

Course Catalog wrote:This is never going to happen, is it?

Any momentum that seemed to be picking up over the past year - here on this forum, there in the sketchy Delonge initiative or anywhere in one of the myriad army of disclosure teams out there - has now ground to a halt.

The illusion wins out again. The machinery grinds on. Nothing changes.


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Post by Cyrellys on Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:22 pm

Course Catalog wrote:This is never going to happen, is it?

Any momentum that seemed to be picking up over the past year - here on this forum, there in the sketchy Delonge initiative or anywhere in one of the myriad army of disclosure teams out there - has now ground to a halt.

The illusion wins out again. The machinery grinds on. Nothing changes.


You wish for Disclosure...to in truth understand what is happening around you. Well in a nutshell, Ancient Powers are battling Ancient Powers here. The root of the problem and the implosion occurred here. But it already occurred in one instance...we have staved it off at least temporarily...but the future is not yet certain. One Ancient Power returned to save a world. The other seeks to take control, dominate, and reshape it. This narrative takes many forms across many witnesses bringing differences, sometimes confusing. Don't get too attached to the Biblical versions, although they are versions.

Manticore Group Dialogs 11072017 wrote:MEMBER 2: Speaking of assholes: THE HILL reports: Legal scholars: Trump's Twitter account violates First Amendment https://t.co/Isn0SJmmvT https://t.co/PfezdBfYSa
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOBBcsAUQAA7CEo.jpg

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Source: https://twitter.com/NotElizabethNJ/status/927813490307452928
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MEMBER 1: Ok. Trump is seen now as a huge violation to the leftist mofos. Could he have been all along committed and slated to turn the B.S. around? I am sending
that

Ok, another thing that is truly worrisome. Go to Craig Paul Roberts home page. See the article about fed Gov collecting DNA samples of Russisn Caucasians and let's talk!

MEMBER 2: Yes he was committed all along to turning the mess around. The leftists are having a coronary

The Fed gov is still filled with globals tho. It's going to be a uphill battle for a long time unless things go mad max. Yes I know about the collecting of the DNA samples. It's the depopulationists working on DNA keyed biological weapons targeting Celtic genetic groups.

Just like they did in Europe on the celtic groups sampled

They're going after their historical opposition to the Illumines & their illicit globalism. If Trump doesn't get a handle on the whole deal not just the pedo parts, we Celts are on the genocide chopping block via biological weapon

Including all the Russian versions

Remember the connections with John Paul Jones

The Northern Scythians were the Fomorians & Northmen. They fought a civil war against their Royals who became the Illumined. The northern's Fomorians after scuffling with the Dananns turned and became allied with the Danann & Celtic Diaspora becoming a part OF IT.

The Scythian Royals became the Ashkenazi & other Illumined branches. Which subsequently wreaked havoc in Greece, Asia Minor, Egypt, Carthage & Rome

MEMBER 1: Yeah. We need.to bring this up. According to EU chatter the EU is falling apart. Germany put the military on alert as Germany ramrod the EU. We fund NATO that is part of the EU.

This explains Putin making preps aimed a EU rupture but also cuz of us.

Hoping Trump can turn it around. The
SAUDIS set this off. Why?

MEMBER 2: Remember how the first & second Battle of Mag Tuired (magh tuireadh) were solved, by mandated intermarriage to establish family ties between the combative races in ancient Ireland. Well that same cultural tool was used by the distantly related Illumined to routinely infiltrate and take over whole societies and civilizations after their break with their northern brethren

According to the images I sent you this morning, Trump had his son go there a week or so ago and make a deal with the King on the corruption to take down the money and power behind our side of the globals

MEMBER 1: Very interesting. So, Trump is playing back door man and well. Cy, we are at The breaking point. One more shenanigan from the cabal involving mass murder is likely to set this off. MK is stressing this and that is what I am hearing from folks of all walks of life. Talked to a wally dude yesterday. They are worried about the stores be coming slaughter pens. Nobody is allowed to or designated to carry. No armed guards. Nothing and no safe rooms

I go to Wally I am packing that's it

Jones is starting a 36 hour broadcast tomorrow to rally the ppl. Good deal!

My phone is full of ransomware. Thanks Google you sorry bastsrds

MEMBER 2: It's already happening daily now. (SEE) The last straw has occurred and yet we pause still seeking the higher ground, the saner path.

A 7 year old little girl is in the hospital since Sunday due to illegal who took an AR on a joy shoot at cars

I'm trying so very hard to let Trump have the time he needs to get done what needs doing...but it's an enormous chore he's taken on and I am not certain he will do enough of it in the little time left...I suppose that depends on how much the military understands of the corruption. I have no way of telling them directly what I have told you just a bit ago except via twitter...very interesting the high level officers private accounts following my posts here in the last couple days...but will it be enough?

What I do know is that anger comes in waves...psi waves...actions ride crests. I think MK knows this...if the crest peaks and falls before anything substantial beyond the money men among the Sauds is completed...I don't know for certain...we're in virgin territory, the tale from those who asked for help first had already seen the mad max by this point, so we have already changed the paradigm some...but how much I don't know...and if in the right direction is not fully certain. But I have hope...I still see the shining at work in the People in and outside the System.

I thinK the people need to arm up, hold their ground, finger near but off the trigger, and dig in on the corruption...they need to dig the corrupt out of their holes like they've never done before. A world depends upon it.

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This from 2015 - Source Allon Group at that time camped at ANP. http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p15-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2#6155

and this: http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p15-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2#6161


and where Synchronicity bade a key discussion between an Elemental Ghost and a Eschatologist: http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p25-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2#6169


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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Guest on Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:01 pm

I believe Trump is going to be the hero about as much as I believe Richard Doty.

Delusions abound.
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Post by Cyrellys on Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:15 pm

Course Catalog wrote:I believe Trump is going to be the hero about as much as I believe Richard Doty.

Delusions abound.

You did not focus on what we discussed. You focused on Trump. We don't believe he will survive his tenure. His family may not survive his tenure.

We were discussing the Ancient Powers and how they are represented today.

You asked about Disclosure. I pointed to it. SEVERAL WAYS. SEVERAL LEVELS.

The problem humanity has today wrt Disclosure is it doesn't know enough about what is happening and has happened in its own world to recognize Disclosure when it is presented.

Then when it is presented you glom onto the most notorious pieces, most recognizable to your world view and make assumptions.

Now try again. Review carefully once you get to the end of the post, the very last post between I and Dan.

Remember also the audio of the phone call I posted in this thread several days ago.

Notation: Allon Group is/was a human military and ET group that was in 2015 observing at AllNewsPipeline within the comment section. They have since moved on, disgusted with the obtuse response they recvd from humans. Having witnessed their attempt at fulfilling my recommendations to go directly to the people and treat openly attempted 2015 - thru 1st half 2016, I really can't blame them...

the key to understanding is the discussion within Manticore Group and the last link going to the discussion between Dan & I in May of 2015.

You may ask questions. If it still makes no sense then it is because you still need a better view of your landscape for it to make sense. Pandolfi will likely understand it. Dan will cling to his ideology.

The ones who attempted to destroy OMF in 2012 whilst the Admins fought have learned to respect it if not understand it. You still have a roof over your head, a place at the table, and a future. The war carries on.

We be of one blood thou and I...to ensuring a future we are committed.

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Post by zooky on Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:22 pm

Thanks Dan and Cy,

I'm still playing catch up, loads to read and cross ref.

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Post by dan on Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:16 am

Yes, there is much room for pessimism amongst disclosure advocates.  But maybe we’re also seeing a revolution of rising expectations.  

Even with Kashmir, progress is spotty.  Her attention is sometimes on track, but it can often wander.  She does remain my best source, at this point.  For instance, is the Sun going to expand or shrink......?  I’ve gotten contradictory stories.  

There might be a legitimate reason for contradictions.  Time, on the other side is not the same as on this side. It is decidedly non-linear, if there is any linearity, at all.  

What is a world without time.....?  Well, that’s the Hive.  So much of the logic on this side deals with cause and effect.  Over there, what passes for logic.....?  We struggle with that.  

There is a simple, corny answer...... it is the logic of love, which, maybe, has no logic.  Yet, love is our best window on the world..... of eternity.  When we understand that Las Vegas might just be an example of tough love, we are scrying into eternity.  On 9/23, I might have been presented with a piece of eternity......time stood still.... a piece of the sky fell on my head.  Yes, it was its own little portal.  Be careful what you wish for.  Will I ever be granted the opportunity to explain eternity to the bereaved?  I think I have been so granted. Some things never change.  

I would like to be able to explain the Sun, just for starters...... and enders.  

Yes, we understand the Sun, from the bottom, up....... from the past to the present.  We even think we know the future of the Sun..... it will expand and consume the Earth.  That also is true, in a manner of speaking.  The son might just do that little thing.  We are beginning to see this, through the eyes of a six-year-old.  

The hive is not a place where things happen..... where there is cause and effect.  It is much more like the quantum, than like a machine.  When you go over, you catch glimpses of eternity.  

There was talk of manipulating the Vectors.  Photons go at the speed of light.  They exist both in and out of space-time.  They are then particles of love..... they hold the world together, while making it go ‘round.  Each one is a vector...... just ask a physicist.  

The Princess tells the Foot which Vectors to manipulate, and, because of her diminutive stature, only he can reach them, but he doesn’t always understand her instructions.  This sounds a lot like cause and effect, granted.  Was donkim a product of this bumbling in the dark?  

What looks like bumbling, even in the eyes of the perpetrators, may appear somewhat differently, in the eyes of a six-year-old, where past and future may meld, in the heat of the hive.  

What happens in the hive stays in the hive.....?  It doesn’t quite seem that way.  Yes, Virginia, there are portals.  

Why, we might ask.....?  It’s because of entanglement.  And, right now, we’re watching the dance of the seven veils..... a striptease show, if you will.  Well, sports fans, you were wishing for Disclosure....... I’m just the messenger..... don’t shoot me, please.  

This is Disclosure...... a window on Eternity...... speaking of 9/11.  

Seriously, gogo, the world is not going to end...... neither will the son.  Your love is in good shape, but space and time...... hmmm...... they might have to be removed.  It won’t hurt, too much.  

When space and time are removed, all that we’ll be able to see are the photons, the vector particles.  We’ll only be able to see the light.  


2:15FT..........

We’ll only be able to see the son..... and mom...... they are our Monad, and we are already well beyond the event horizon...... last time I checked.  In fact, we never were able to break the bonds of gravity, try though some have.  All we have left is gravity’s rainbow..... the grin on the Cheshire Cat.  

All of this is happening as we fall into leopardland, as Kashmir attempts to explain it to me.  I’m a slow learner.  I used to have to read with my lips.  Now Kashmir has to read to me.  

The thing about leopardland...... it’s mainly just for leopards.  Kashmir has explored it, however, and I’m anxious for her news from nowhere.  Yesterday, we tried bribing her....... the results were decidedly mixed.  I think we’ll have to be patient.  We are all patients..... afflicted with the same terminal illness.  

I think nurses will tell you about patients...... we often become impatient, per impossible.  Me......?  I just become an immaterialist.  

Kashmir does speak of atoms and molecules.  She can even feel them, right under her skin.  That is matter.  But, she says, only dreams can go through portals.  She doesn’t go back to leopardland, unless she’s with her mom and dad.  And that’s where she’ll go when she dies.  

She does miss her friends.  But there was a desire, that she felt, emanating from this side.  She was choosy.  I don’t know about negotiations, but we know the end result.  


4:15FT.........

On the other side, it’s not like space and time don’t exist, it’s just that they are a lot more fluid, as in a dream state.  Turn a corner, and you’re in another century.  That’s what happens when the Princess goes back.  I’ve experienced that here, in a vague sort of way.  It’s kinda like living in a metaphor.  

The metaphors might be the Vectors.  Donkim might best be viewed as a metaphor for a passing age..... a passing agency.  They are the clowns of God.  This does not mean that they won’t turn Honolulu into a portal..... a window on the world, but I’m doubtful.  Donkim is an impetus to open up smaller windows....... let in some fresh air.  

Where does free will go, on the other side......?  

How much free will do we exercise in our dreams?  What about lucid dreams?  How much free will have we ever exercised, in retrospect?  

You sure don’t want to ask a scientist.  Don’t atoms have free will? Isn’t this the point of qm......?  Isn’t our free will just an extension of qm?   Not when it comes to killing Schrödinger’s leopard.

What we think of as free will is our experience of entanglement.  Could Arjuna have refused to go into battle?  No, but he had to be persuaded.  Ours is not to reason why.......  What is reason without free will?  What is free will without reason?  

What is reason with logic and mathematics?  It is the Logos, which is just our entanglement with the Monad, inside of whose event horizon we exist.  

How much freedom do we have in falling in love, or being born again, or having a mystical experience?  Are we free to turn our backs on temptation?  Perhaps we are free to learn not to act stupidly.  Good luck!  



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Post by Guest on Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:05 am

I enjoy reading the Princess Chronicles but the only thing I can take away from them is just the diary and travel journal of a longterm (retired?) intelligence operative who seems to now be a happy husband, father and business owner.

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Course Catalog wrote:I enjoy reading the Princess Chronicles but the only thing I can take away from them is just the diary and travel journal of a longterm (retired?) intelligence operative who seems to now be a happy husband, father and business owner.

what more would you ask of him? seems to me he's shared a great deal about what's really important to him.

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jofo wrote:what more would you ask of him?  seems to me he's shared a great deal about what's really important to him.

True, but many of us were drawn here to learn something more about the phenomenon (whatever it is) and the Footman never directly addresses that topic (to my knowledge) on the forum or in the newsletter. Unless I am not properly reading between the lines.

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The royal family...... they are a unit.  I am a peripheral part of that unit.  I am told frequently to try to find the codes in the chronicles, but I never have.  I’m sure that it must represent some sort of microcosm, loaded with metaphors.  I have enough trouble trying to remember my own.  

I believe that they are breaking up this evening, to prepare for their first date, which might be Friday evening.  There might be a slap in the face.  Kashmir was practicing, yesterday, for her mom.  

And this time around, there were only five puppies.  It was Milan’s third litter, and hopefully her last.  


8..........

With R&D, we are being vouchsafed a glimpse behind the curtain.  No more..... no less.  I’m doubtful that free will is being invoked on either side.  Be careful what we wish for.......?  Are wishing or prayers involved?  Perhaps,  but they may not be the signals of free will.  

Is leopardland also zombie land?  Well, if it ain’t broke, we shouldn’t be trying to fix it.  We can spend the rest of eternity trying to figure why the chicken actually crossed the road.  Does not omniscience already exist?   Won’t we just be reinventing the wheel?  I don’t have a clear rebuttal.  



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Look to myth and symbol to provide the missing pieces you all seek.

You have to do your homework.

Then you must ritualize the myth in your life.

This is the experience of being.

Then something else happens...

— Grasshopper

“The Way to do is to be.”

— Lao Tzu

This all around us can only be experienced, but you have to see and understand what the symbols are saying for you personally.

Living through the Princess and the vectors is a mistake.

You are and always have been enough.

You don’t need Dan, Cy, Ron, The Princess or myself.

You only need to see yourself authentically.
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I am a rock...... I am an island.

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Life is personal.

I am part of a dynamic system.

No one can be a rock.

No one can be an island.

The cosmos will provide all u need.

Go forth.

Be quiet.

Listen.

Watch.

Act when needed.

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Post by dan on Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:23 am

Cy,

I note that you appear to have made an extensive comment, yesterday, to an undated quote of mine.  Your comment appears on a locked thread.  It is the previous thread, among several, with the same name as the current thread....... rather confusing.  I’m not sure of your present intent.  They were cogent comments.  To reduce confusion, in the future, I hope we might use a sequence of part numbers.  Thank you for keeping these threads from growing too long.  I don’t recall how much access I have to the various editing and locking features.  Thanks again.........
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I barely have mentioned the subject that Kashmir has brought up several times in relation to her cosmology...... namely, the Sun.  Undoubtedly, the Sun will play a crucial role in any attempt to construct an immaterial cosmology.  

On the material account, the stars and the Sun are the source of the Earth and all its energy input.  On any immaterial account, the Sun is threatened to be subsumed as mere decoration.  

In Kashmir’s cosmology the Sun does still appear play a central role, I’m just not sure what that role is, ontologically speaking.  

Any immaterialism is necessarily going to be theo-/anthropo-centric.  It is duly noted, however, that most modern pantheists will go well out of their way to be acentric with regard to any specific life forms, although they do tend to be biocentric, as opposed to mineral-centric, for instance.

However, pantheism is an offshoot of animism, in which trees, mountains, lakes, celestial and meteorological phenomena, and many other natural and artificial forms become repositories for spirit.



...... OTL ........

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Guest on Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:16 pm

“Moreover, it is actually a good thing to be thought foolish and simple with regard to matters that don’t concern us.”

I’ve done pretty good being foolish on Disclosure, wouldn’t you say Dan Wink
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Foot Mann on Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:19 pm

I have known and watched over the Princess since she was four years old in this life. Kashmir has known and watched over me since long before. If you see the Chronicles as the saga of a "happy husband, father and business owner," then you see only what conforms to your expectations. When this veil gives way to a deeper insight, you will be open to disclosure.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by zooky on Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:40 pm

For me, like many others, I entered into this saga some 35+ years ago, not through my own choice. It’s been a long struggle and takes most of my time researching just looking for answers.

I fully understand why things have been kept the way it has. With that said I also see the need for a major shift in the way we do things, we keep our children sheltered from the horrors of this world but in the end we also need to teach them and prepare them for adult life. With that in mind do we go with tough love or sheltered? For me disclosure has never been an issue, I have no need for someone to tell me its true, I already know.

My main concern is are we in trouble, are we going to be overwhelmed by our visitors at some point? If this is not the case we are all looking forward to a bright future and the problems we face are just internal which is something we need to address.

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Ultraterrestrial on Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:57 pm

Official disclosure of the UFO phenomenon will very likely happen in the near future, but the exact “when and what” of it isn’t quite clear to me yet.

In terms of unofficial disclosure, nearly every major detail of the phenomenon is already available but I only know of three ways of accessing the info: 1) Being in a privilaged position (e.g. member of the Aviary). 2) Psychoanalysis (good enough to determine the validity of nearly any anecdote). 3) Remote viewing

Also, keep in mind that you might not like everything you find. Some may find some of it downright shocking and disturbing. That’s pretty much it in a nutshell.

As for The Chronicles, I’ve only ever seen that one edition, but I thought it was well-written, and heartwarming
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