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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:19 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, I'm slowly backing away. You guys have fun. Until next time, don't let the aliens or black op fascists get you.

    ---

    Simply, there is no seeker. 
    There is nothing to attain. 
    No such thing as enlightenment. 
    Let's stop all this silliness.

    We are lost in a hypnotic dream of separation. 

    Searching for something only illustrates ignorance of reality.

    Refining the mind seems like a good use of time. 

    We are just dreamseekers following dreamteaching. 

    There is no understanding oneness, there is just being in it.

    This is all already known.

    We just are remembering.

    That includes all of your drama too Dan. 

    We will have no impact unless love is involved. 

    I know, I'm no help and a big distraction.

    That is half right, we are all so very distracted.

    Love is all that is moving.

    As you were.


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    Post by dan Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:23 pm

    Eric sends the following.......
    Inspired by a talk by OSHO [Rajneesh]

    No question is authentic or sincere.
    None.
    Fools are great Philosophers.
    In 5000 years, not one answer from
    Foolosophy, only branches of questions.
    There is not an answer written
    or spoken from anyone ever
    that will help you.
    An answer just leads to more questions.
    You know your answers already.
    You just don't want them yet.
    Especially that one.
    Don't ask.
    The meaning of life is a mystery.
    The questioning mind is one of chaos.
    Hmm.
    Thinking about this.
    Just live in the mystery.
    Do a little good.
    Make a lot of love.
    I forget my questions.
    To truly be here now
    is to lose all questions.
    In place of knowledge you
    find wisdom waiting.
    Wisdom unfolds through
    Consciousness.
    There are no answers.
    Only experiencing.
    It's a process,
    not an event.
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    Post by kevin Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:58 am

    All i know is that i am one of the people who you know and you post about and honestly the nonsense about those wonderings has to stop and instead focus.
    Get real.
    The conspiracy is there is no conspiracy and everything is transparent --what's the mystery?
    It's all out there that you speak about - but as the Master clearly states "Eyes to see, ears to hear."
    Everyone runs with their personal experience which is way okay because it is how life goes and that's perfect.
    We all play our parts, our roles.
    Like it or not, the world runs the way it does, though we certainly wish it ran another way -- however because it runs the current way we must work within the system if we are in any way wishing to make a point, statement or change - yes change.
    Dan you are in a very unique position to advance and change things because you have earned it by 40-plus years of being engaged in a group who gave you a lot of information to do that, quite possibly because they knew you would change things.
    Eric - you know what you know because you have earned it by personal study and God Bless You for sharing that information with Dan.
    We either debate and eat each other or unite and move forward with our collective information.
    It's getting past individualism and going into collaboration.
    It's that simple - those are the stumbling blocks on the way up the mountain - nothing else.
    The Alchemist Stone was sought after by many - the Wise know the Alchemist Stone is not a physical product -- it is Your Heart.
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    Post by dan Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:54 am

    Hi, Kevin,

    Welcome to OMF.  Thank you for taking the time to post here.  

    I was aware that you and I were having difficulty communicating, particularly, it was my difficulty communicating my basic ideas about the world.  

    Perhaps, you would be willing to have another go at it....

    We have to start some place....  The basic question before all of us is whether we are here by accident or not.  The prevailing, modern supposition is that we are.  But there are many who still cling to the contrary notion..... that there is some sort of cosmic agency behind the appearances.  

    Yes, I do wonder about this.  I have wondered for most of my three score and ten, and probably won't quit, just yet.  

    I find very little 'transparency' concerning this issue.  But does it make any difference?  In the first instance, it does not.... life goes on, for all of us, regardless, in the face of the mystery.  

    Each of us scratches what meaning we can, out of existence.  We each strive for some minimal degree of coherence and integrity.  Yes, we each run with our personal experience.... it's all we got.  

    So....... how do we move forward?  If only we knew, which way is forward.  

    You suggest collaboration..... we pool our collective information.  

    It seems, however, that we are confronted with two very different sets of data.  Nay.  We are confronted two very different gestalts/hypotheses..... the ETH and the UltraTH.  

    Kevin, in your efforts with the Gordon material, you were mainly involved with the technological side of the issue.  That side is mostly assuming the extra-terrestrial hypothesis (ETH).  This is the scientific/physics side.  I have been concerning myself with the UTH or the metaphysical interpretation of the phenomena.  These are two very different ways of approaching the phenomena..... of defining and describing them.  
     
    I'm not aware of any treatments that attempt to present a balanced or unbiased combination of these two approaches. The investigator has to place his bets on one side or the other, just in order to maintain a minimal coherence.



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    Post by dan Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:55 am

    I'm going to be unable to attend the IMF/Smithsonian meeting with the Princess, due to a prior commitment with Debbie to be out of town.  But I've had a brainstorm of persuading Falcon and/or Sam Hopkins to escort the Princess, in my stead.  


    Back to Kevin......

    Yes, Kevin is attempting to maintain an investigator's objectivity with regard to the ETH v UTH question. I doubt that will be possible. It would be much to big a target for him. Also, it would be disengenuous of me to pretend to play along with the pretense of objectivity. There are some survival issues about which objectivity makes no sense.

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    Post by kevin Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:09 pm

    Alice went down the rabbit hole, looking for what she would find...
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    Post by dan Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:52 am

    There will be a preliminary meeting of the four of us.  It will be only the second time that Sam has met Aliyah.  Sam will be substituting for me at the main meeting, which is, ostensibly, to be about protecting snow leopards.  

    Both Sam and Bob have only a bare-bones outline of my speculations, alluded to previously, concerning the possibile context of the main meeting.  Aliyah has stated that the convenor is involved in the transition process, and I'm presuming that the meeting is timed accordingly.  I've heard nothing from the Footmann, since the trip.  

    Aliyah has a wider agenda concerning Kashmir.  I, too, have a wider agenda, as, presumably, does the WB.  

    I believe that the geopolitical context facing Kashmir is not unlike that facing Palestine.... certainly as to their relative intractability.  

    As you may recall, I profess to be an eschatologist, and Palestine is no stranger to such concerns, for instance.  

    Then there is the Footmann....... I showed up on his radar screen, some quarter century hence, in just that context.  Then arrived the Princess, as the girl next door.... little did I then comprehend.  

    How could I have then imagined that, actually, their paths had first crossed almost thirty years previously, at the White House..... boy meets girl?  Hmmm......

    And what does this have to do with the World Bank..... boy meeting girl?  Hey, I'm only the Scribe, here.... mine is just to reason why...... How could I avoid tripping over the reason?   But how'm I gonna 'splain it to the folks at the World Bank?  Is it all about the Princess and the pea..... pod?  So, maybe that's why I'm not gonna be there.  I'll be safely in Charlotte with Debbie, well outside of Dodge.  

    Hmmm...... the Vectors, they do converge.  Weren't they supposed to have converged back in September?  Yet, the show goes on......

    But, Virginia, we do have a phenomenological problem. Not everything is exactly as is seems..... there are uncorrelated phenomena.... true..... and so what?  Well, we do, now, have this curious syzygy between the eschatologist, the Footmann, the Princess and her pod.  This gravity's rainbow seems to have alighted.  All of the Earth's phenomenological issues seem to have finally come home to roost, conveniently on the doorstep of the White House..... and none too soon....?  

    Of course, I'm speculating, but the various pieces, from forty years of observation/interaction, do seem to be coming together into a fair degree of coherence, along with a fairly well defined political path forward.  


    7:45ft-------

    Reality generally conforms to our expectations, even, or especially, when subjected to scientific scrutiny.  But, then, apparent exceptions have been reported...... anomalous, uncorrelated phenomena.  As implied, however, no such phenomena have been able to withstand repeated scientific scrutiny, with possible, marginal exceptions.  There does seem to be a 'shyness effect' at work, as if nature conspired to conceal its own singularities and anomalies, at least outside the human sphere.  

    But, now, after four centuries of a concerted period of scientific and technological progress, one does have to look far to see the signs of stress that we humans are placing on our natural resources.  

    Material and economic progress for the great bulk of humanity, especially within the last century, has been enormous, but, without a nearly 'miraculous' scientific breakthrough, particularly in the domain of energy creation, we, humans, face some very difficult choices, concerning our patterns of consumption, within most of our lifetimes.  


    11--------

    But what does the World Bank know of fairytales?  If word got out that the Bank were even considering something as speculative as a dimensional portal, there would likely be a run on the Bank, if it were a commercial institution.  It is not, but even so...... If I were of a mind to leak such information, I would not choose a financial institution as the vehicle.  

    Suppose, on the other hand, that this artifact is not speculative.  The point could be that it is a fait-accompli, and, look, even the bankers are able to take it in stride, and go on about their business.  They would be giving it their seal of approval.  

    How might the topic be alluded to?  Would we be floating a trial balloon.... just to get something on the record?  Some attendees would already be aware..... the idea being to use a third party to introduce it to their colleagues, and see how they react, before tipping one's own hand.  

    This latter point assumes an advanced stage of disclosure. I'm doubtful we're that far along in the process.



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    Kevin/Dan, if someone involved in all this can say the heart is the key, Great! Finally! Thank you Kevin. Don't forget, I don't give two shits about Aliens or UTHs or boats or Trump or the CIA, I do, but then I know it's just gonna happen like it will happen and whomever tripped into it, trips and whoever plans and it comes to pass, those plans were needed.

    I have no opinion, but wish you all the success in the World! I don't understand how my experience translates to a pod experience, but I don't need to know. I suspect they are redundant and it takes time to get some place using the pod, similar to The Work.

    We can all just follow our protocols, even the sleeping. Being consciously aware of this at this point in history is very tricky. We can't trust ego and thus, the left and right hands can't know what they are doing.

    What I have, like many others, is that I can help people find their way beyond religion. I have mapped out some ground and marked the way. I can coach and I can stand patiently. I can be what the moment needs and that is why I am here. I have ignored almost everything you guys have been doing. I am flexible, while most of Dan's friends are set in stone or burned out.

    Well, I am not burned out or set in stone. I will change my position based on whatever new info my heart and intution bring me and even let the mind chime in, but, it follows! I'm on my game and more ready for things than ever. So, I will wait and move when I need to. I have tried to share with Dan using a streaming journal. I don't know what helps or doesn't, but I was told now to let ole Dan be and get his work done. So, I am just a Watcher here right now.

    I can see and smell this. I have a sense of what Dan is on about and it resonates and connects with my psychedelic view of things and spiritual experiences and awareness. Reality is Psychedelic, I don't know if you guys figured that out yet. That is why this will be so disorienting if this is real. Again, I am prepared to play a part, as maybe you guys are or we are just messing around here with nothing and maybe I helped ease an old man's doubts.

    I don't think it's nothing anymore. I know the darkness is ending, but I don't dare let myself think I could actively help. I was told, stay still and a wave would rise to move me to where I need to be with no action of my own. Hey, that I can do Wink That sounds like the best way to travel in this insane dance.

    Not only is it only about the heart, but Joy and laughter and creating like a child. The spiritual children will be raised up first. Those are who I am here for. That is ongoing. I am a part of all things, as you are. We all have our contributions as child Gods. No REAL human is insignificant, but there are many automatons blocking our way. It is what it is and this is how it is supposed to or allowed to be.

    Here is what I know, as impossible as it seems, and it will happen at the last second in the nick of time, what has been happening inside people during Awakening and Enlightenment, will take on an outer world dimension and maybe have a illusory analog. Now appears to be when we learn what we are, we move ahead together or we struggle in darkness.

    As someone who has successfully made the shift from mind to heart based living for the most part using creativity, let me share a few things. Plans change, so be ready for anything. Have as few as possible. Be fluid and adaptable and hold hard and fast to nothing that comes from the mind.

    NOTHING!

    And I have as much that has been revealed to me, as I discovered. I repeat it to Dan due to the synchronistic connections to him.

    Now an incredible aside. My fiancé has been seeing beings around our apartment, grey shadow people, thought they were her dead Mom or Grandfather. Not normal, but she has this gift. Like a lot in the last 2 weeks. This morning she woke up and later told me something disturbing. She saw two small beings next to the bed on her side when she woke up. We know nothing really about this mythology. I asked some questions. This was a genuine authentic experience. I have read of such things and my fiancé often struggled with sleep paralysis in the past. Maybe nothing or maybe everything.

    Two little beings in our room while we sleep. Why? I am tired of the subterfuge. Sigh. I would have thought I was ready for direct communication, and I have been directly communicating with my HGA now for a couple of months, but it doesn't seem to work like that. We are wired they way we are and usually for a reason to play out in the game.

    I hope you are having fun, because if you aren't laughing and having fun, the spirit is simply not here. I guys, am having the time of my fucking life. I know I am a dime a dozen, but 2 years of this stuff is something. Doesn't synchronicity make this more real for you? It does for me, as if I am in a conversation with someone.

    The only God I know is laughing. Let me know if I can help, but if Dan is confused, it is his confusion. I have only hoped he wasn't doing all this in his head. Same for you.

    Peace.
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    Post by GSB/SSR Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:01 pm

    Hmmm ...

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html


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    Post by Guest Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:53 pm

    That was a nobrainer. Methinks a karmic sandwich even the likes of which God has never seen is on the way for that human baby God called Trump. He is total negation, which makes hm a candidate for Satan?

    Not to gossip, but they have perverted sex videos of him from Russia. The man apparently had no self control. I hope he learns something, but he will probably enjoy this.

    Trump is not the point. He is a roadbump.
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    While you guys play on the Internet and in the desert of your minds Wink a meditation.

    "My life can be summed up in three accounts:

    I was raw,
    I was cooked,
    And I was burned."

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    I surge on an uprising wave of Love.
    No gravity can stop me from rising.
    I feel the truth of her Love and the
    the divine reflection she shines back
    to me from her radiant heart.
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    Post by dan Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:45 am

    Thank you, Eric.  I hope that you will continue your contributions.  Please bear with me, but I'm afraid that things are liable to get worse, before they get better.

    The games we, all, play with each other are liable to get more serious.  They do have a purpose.  They keep all of guessing, flexibile and on our toes.  Yes, Eric, we're hoping, as push comes to shove, that we're not as stupid as we, all, usually look.  

    The main game is David v Goliath.   I attempt to play David..... Ron attempts to play the other, bless his heart.  

    Right, now, I'm hoping that the Princess is better at this game than the Footmann.  I'm hoping that she was sent in as reinforcements.  Poor Ron needs all the help he can get.  

    The devil is in the details.......

    Yes, I'm betting the the Princess is the last defense for the Katechon.  Defending the Katechon was getting to be above his pay grade..... as it might appear, on one level.  


    3ft----------

    Just got off the phone with Bob.  He inspired me to add the following.......

    Now that the Princess has made the scene, Ron has been moved up, a notch, or two.  The Princess is still in training.   Ron and I compete to be her biggest admirer..... to win her favor.  

    Understand, please, that I'm no slouch at this game, and I live for the challenge.......

    I'm trusting that there's not a faster track in town.  I mean, let's get real.  

    Back in the old days, I struggled to make contact with Jim W.  These tables, they do turn, Eric.  Jim heard that donny wished my audience.  Now, he's all ears.  Aren't you impressed with your very attentive pupil, Eric?  Shouldn't we feel sorry for donny? What can we do for the Princess, in training, that she is?

    I am very proud. She does us, all, proud.


    5---------

    Bob was going to call the Princess, to see if any fence mending were necessary.

    Mr McAdams was going to cut me off the liquor, and even warn the next crew. I'm on my best behavior, in the meantime.



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    Post by dan Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:56 pm

    We're heading back to Baltimore, on the train from Charlotte.....

    On Wednesday, I had still been planning to meet Andrew, at the IMF building, with the Princess.  

    The meeting with Andrew, had been mentioned to me a week ago.  When I hesitated, she said that Andrew was involved in the transition process, but both Ron and Aliyah have a long track record with me for baiting and switching.  The most recent case in point was the two week Panama Canal cruise..... a lot of bait, and then a big switch.  I had had it up to here.  

    Game time is over..... no more phony meetings or cruises.  From now on, if I attend a meeting, I'm in charge of the agenda, even if that meeting happens to involve Donald Trump.  Yes?  

    By Monday, I was suspecting another B&S meeting, so I was going to have my own reinforcements, namely Sam and Falcon.  Princess suggested a preliminary meeting on Tuesday, with the four of us.  I told everyone that the other two were to protect the Princess from me.  

    I forget how, or even whether, I was provoked by the Princess, but I did lose my cool, with her.  I have apologized twice, since.  In the past, when I've lost it, I've always been able to maintain a reserve objectivity, like in case the other person had a concealed weapon.  This time I noticed no reserve.  

    I don't remember the sequence of events..... but, logically, before blowing up at the Princess, I blew up at Sam.  The provocation was that he was not paying sufficient attention to what the Princess was saying.  

    I had already explained about the Pod to Sam, but I'm quite sure that he doesn't believe it.  Hey, I don't believe it either, but I consider it to be, at the least, a serious subterfuge.  I really don't care what Sam believes, but I do need him to be a witness.  

    Ok, so I'm reviewing the Princess's back story, now with two witnesses present.  As innocently as I can, I ask the Princess where she was born.  Just as innocently, she says..... the papers say I was born in Islamabad.  Sam remarks.... so you were born in Pakistan.  Yes, she says.  And Sam moves onto the next question......

    I interrupt...... I say, rather harshly.... Sam, you were not paying attention.  

    What was Sam thinking, or was he not thinking?  I have spent the past 40 years trying to get Sam to think outside the box.  Even, now, I haven't given up.  Next week, Ron has me open to the possibility that I'll be meeting with Jim Woolsey and/or Donald Trump, in the interest of Disclosure.  We'd all better be at the top of our game.  Yes?

    After 40 years of playing this game, I think I've had a fair amount of practice playing the odds.  I do wonder about the audience.  Is there any audience?  I suspect, and so does Cy, I believe, that the breakup of OMF I was an 'inside' job.  

    Inside.....?  It was an intelligence operation.  For what conceivable purpose?  It was for the practical purpose of starting out with a clean slate..... OMF II.  Presumably, everyone still on board has been well vetted, and there will be many fewer stray visitors than before.  Ron knows he can't shut me up, but he can keep track, fairly easily, of who's kibitzing.  

    So what.......?  

    Suppose that, next week, I do meet with Jim and/or Don.  I continue to follow my 'dear diary' protocol, and the game stays the same, but some of the players change..... BFD.  

    Maybe it would be best if I start out with Jim.  I was told that Jim was avoiding me until he learned that donny wanted to talk.  Let's suppose that, as with everything else, it is partly true.  Which part might be true?  

    If the game is still on, I'm willing to suppose that jim was not quite that oblivious.  He's not likely to have been that naive, we hope and trust.  Rather, his main job has been to keep donny informed about the disclosure plan, from the start of his..... sojourn.  

    For how long has donny been on the disclosure radar?  For about as long as me, let's suppose...... since '77, say.  It started out with a bigger list..... as the go-team gradually became finalized.  Has it been finalized?  I hope that we're finally gonna find out.  

    Maybe it would be better, for all concerned, if I met with neither j nor d.  How about someone like Thomas Williams.... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/world/europe/breitbarts-man-in-rome-a-gentle-voice-in-a-strident-chorus.html

    This would be much helpful, all around.   No?  Much more informative.  Yes?  

    Of course, it may well be that Donald doesn't want me messing with his boys.   Hmmm...... I would have to ask again.... who's in charge of Disclosure?  Your mission Donald, should you choose to accept it, is to help keep the 'deplorables' on the Disclosure train.  

    His bigger job is to help ensure that we don't hit a speed bump on the disclosure path.  

    I've been told that the reason Hillary couldn't be allowed to be President was because she was a liar.  So what?  Does that mean that she couldn't be trusted with disclosure?  I'm doubting it.  Quite frankly, I seriously doubt that anyone could not have been trusted with any job, given proper training and advice.  

    The entire political circus that we just witnessed in this country was much ado about nothing.  

    The only question that might have mattered was whether she could hold her liquor.  I guess we'll find out who can handle the truth serum.  I know for a fact that Ron cannot, but that doesn't necessarily make him a liar, now, does it.  


    3:30FT----------

    I called Bill.  Sincerely, or otherwise, he puts on a good show of being very unimpressed.  If we can keep Bill fooled, we're running a rather secure operation.  All you have to do is calculate which of us is more likely to be fooled.  

    I got the following link last night, I forgot to post it........ http://www.wrmea.org/2003-october/you-don-t-have-to-be-jewish-to-be-a-neo-con-john-bolton-and-james-woolsey.html

    I would learn very little from talking to someone who already knows what's going on.  Tom is less likely to know...... but maybe not.  If Donald wanted to check on the veracity of the benedict story, above, Tom would be the most likely one to check it with.  In that case I would need access to one of his people who has not gotten the briefing.... who still has virgin ears.  This would be a better way to test a disclosure message for Donald.  Yes?  

    This is about all we have to do, going forward.  

    The beauty of the pod story is that it is much too cute to be believable.  Its possible truth would make it the perfect cover.  Let's see, how is the perfect cover going to aid disclosure?  Under the cover of the unbelievably cute story, all kinds of ancillary material could be put out.  There could be a whole mountain of data being held hostage to the personal story.  

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    Disclosure comes only to those with vision. The Princess and the Pod are one, separate in space yet inseparable in time. One born from the other, they serve a common purpose.
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    Disclosure you say sir?

    I don't know what that is.

    I don't know what it could be.

    I have a new vision of Humanity.

    I am it.

    I am the Hand of God.

    This is real.

    This is still the eternal now.

    What is Disclosure?

    Disclose that.

    We all have command override whenever we want to exercise it.

    What vision do you have?

    I'm watching you.
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    Post by dan Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:35 am

    Vision, vision..... who's got the vision?
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    I'll make art the rest of my life staring at the Sun.

    Jack will chase holes in the sky.

    Dan will chase Disclosure.

    The Princess can fly her drones.

    Ron can act like he has a clue.

    Sorry, act the Fool, be the Fool.

    Trump can be the epitamy of evil.

    Kevin can film it all.

    Gary can write about it all.

    Cy can have her revolution.

    And we all spin around the Sun.

    All is as it should be.

    Who is right or wrong?

    A game has a winner.

    Who will win?

    Do you know the rules?

    Who is laughing?

    Who is crying?

    Who is scared?

    Who is going to save the world?

    No one.

    Everyone.

    All is as it is.

    Horrible.

    Beautiful.
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    Dan, you were aware? ...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/01/05/former-cia-director-james-woolsey-quits-trump-transition-team/


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    Post by dan Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:27 pm

    Thanks, as always, Eric for your fresh and unbiased insights.  

    The four of us, two couples, took Kashmir to a children's theater to see an entertaining rendition of Beauty and the Beast.  

    Ron and I were able to converse occasionally during the lunch.  He spoke of two consulting teams or networks, relative to Trump.  I would assume that these could also be viewed as intelligence briefing teams.  The larger group is not in favor of disclosure.  It was not otherwise discussed.  The smaller group that includes him also includes Jim W and Mike P who is formerly of net assessments.  

    Mike is going to visit with Joe Firmage, who has been working on an electrogravitics project, with government sponsorship, for the past ten years.  These two are not aware of the portal project, while Jim is.


    Thanks, Gary,

    I was aware. Jim may have quit the larger group to join the smaller, but that is a guess. Who knows how many levels of disinformation there could be?


    Going forward......?

    (Jim had taken one of the 'philosophy' courses that Ron had taught for the agency. None of his courses included eschatology.)

    Am I supposed to sit by the phone, waiting for Jim to call? I'm not getting that impression. Sorry, sports fans..... so much for disclosure politics.
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    Post by dan Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:19 am

    I keep saying that such and such a day is the first day of Disclosure.  Now I'll say it again..... the day we meet with Jim will be the first day.  I hope it comes this week.  My first wish, post-disclosure, is to attend the protest march on Saturday with the Princess.  

    This from Eric ......

    I have learned the following rooting out my own anger and reactions to the external world. You know these things. A reminder. The dysfunction is here to create the drama. The more evil seeming, the better. You can be the bad guy too. Even Lovecraft's insectoid Gods from the void. They are just here for the show. Remember Epictetus, external conditions are irrelevant and external status makes no difference. Use all conditions to turn life into something helpful. Every condition can be pushed off of. Do not exert force against the barriers. You will only cause and extend the suffering. Every challenge to your will has a root in wrong thinking. The problem is in us, not the world. Behold the birth of tragedy when idiots(unconscious actors) confront the challenges of life. Stay calm.

    You have an inner aim and outer. You may be here to do something, but you are also here to learn to be present. If you lose the inner connection, you get lost in the outer. If you do the outer and forget the inner purpose, what did you do for yourself? I'm not judging. Look in the mirror. What sticks?

    I have calls into both the Princess and the Footmann to discuss the post-disclosure plans.  

    Maybe I'd better call the Falcon..... check -  left msg

    Deborah....  check

    The rest of the folks on speed dial are in other zones.  I guess I'll have to talk to the diary.  

    I should talk to Sam.  I have to explain about the portal.  The portal is like the jman..... you have to believe, in order for it to work.  Ron used the word 'vision' in his post, but he did use the 'believe', yesterday.  Folks are very liable to say.... so what.  But this is what Disclosure is about.  I might not have believed it..... pre-Disclosure.  

    Our Christian friends will say that we're using an icon as a substitute for the risen Christ.  Our Muslim friends will say that we're using an icon...... full stop.  

    For sure that we're storming the gates of Heaven.  

    What's special about this particular wishing well?  What's special is that it comes with it's own Princess.  It's not clear that she has to actually be present to activate it.  Whoever activates it, however, has to have her complete trust.  It makes sense.  Yes?  

    Yes, this makes a lot of sense.....  You can go through with the Princess.  You can go through as a group, even just with her implied consent, even if none of you would have sufficient belief to make it through on your own.  

    The big question has to do, then, with the artifact.  Why not have the Princess and the artifact be one.......?   Why must they be separate, besides for the obvious logistical problems?  

    An artifact can be cloned, but a person can't, as any personalist would believe.  At this particular, disclosure, juncture, it's important to keep the gate singular, as discussed above.  It would not be difficult to tag the gate with an individual's ID.  




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    Post by dan Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:15 am

    Yesterday, I had lunch with my two witnesses (to Jim), Sam and Bob.  Here's my new information from Bob.... there's a long line of folks on the other side waiting to come down here.  When the last one has gotten in, that's when Jesus will come back for the final judgment.  In light of the BPWH, we only have to modify that thought slightly.....

    Those folks who are now still in line are trying to cheat.  Maybe that's a bit harsh.  They are, though, wittingly or not, gaming the system.  At the monadic end, there is only one of us left standing.... the Mother, presumably.... at the Alpha and Omega.  The rest of us are all time sharing that one Soul.  

    How is the human limit determined?  Just like everything else.... it's the best possible number..... go figure.  

    Anyway, we have a better handle on the time limit.  It's about now.  If you're not presently on the line, to come back for one last ride, you'll just have to follow the light.  

    And the sooner we close out the incoming line, the sooner we can open up the wishing well for 'business'.  Bob was quite incensed by the thought that we'd be selling indulgences.  I can see his PoV, but it's not quite accurate.  We're merely granting day-passes, and we'll have hall monitors.  

    But once we've seen Paris, how are we going to keep ourselves down on the farm?  Ok, now, remember that long line of folks waiting to get in here.  When we give you your day pass, if you can find someone still waiting on line, you can arrange to trade visas with them, and you can move on to the light, while they get to whistle all the way to work down here..... win... win.  Yes?   This is why we like to call it the BPW.... win.... win!  

    So, Bob, we're not selling indulgences, we'll just be selling day passes.  We'll start out at a billion a pop, strictly for purposes of income redistribution.  For each pass we sell, we'll give, say, a hundred away for free or have a sliding scale..... from each, according to their ability......

    What do we do with the bad guys?  Simple, it's the same deal.... but they better remember to be careful what they wish for.... that's all.

    And now I remember my dad's little proverb..... the harder you resist, the harder you'll fall (in love).  That's how the big Attractor in the sky works.  

    Eric Garza has just received his official bird name..... Sham the Shaman.  It goes with Chicken Little.  


    8FT--------

    Jack alerted me to the following...... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4133044/Yuri-Geller-convinced-CIA-psychic-powers.html


    9:40-------

    My advisory team reached the consensus that I should stand down from waiting at the beltway, and that I should go back home to await any further suggestions.  I'm back home, now.  Ok?  


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    Post by dan Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:33 am

    From: Ronald Pandolfi
    Date: Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 10:16 PM
    Subject: Re: Letter from Gordon to R. James (private -- no blog or sharing)

    To: Dan Smith

    You may not be sane but you certainly are honest. All is forgiven.

    Ronald Pandolfi, Ph.D.
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    www.KashmirWorldFoundation.org


    On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Dan Smith wrote:

    I'm very sorry, and you may well not believe it, but in my haste to open the document you sent me, below, I actually overlooked your parenthetical instructions.  I just now noticed them, and quickly removed the offending document, and my references to it.

    I'm sure, though, that some damage has already been done.  In addition to the blog, I did discuss Gordon's letter with with Steve Bassett on the telephone.  

    I hope I've learned my lesson..... to be more careful in the future.  

    Dan  


    Thank you for your vote of confidence in my honesty, but let's examine the first part of that sentence...... 'You may not be sane, but...'

    I'm well aware that you have often expressed, both to me and others, concerns about my sanity.  In the past I have taken these expressions as a necessary part of the coverup or as a private joke between the two of us, and the above excerpt is likely intended in the latter vein.  

    Wonderful, but, all joking aside, please......

    If we continue to move forward with Disclosure, on my 'Chicken Little' terms, I believe that we owe it to the potentially wider audience, to attempt to seriously address the matter of my sanity.  No?  

    Just last evening, Debbie threatened to make me go back to our family physician, and request a renewed prescription for Haldol.  Why was this.....?  

    Well, as reported here, you recently averred that Jim Woolsey had requested a meeting with me.  Instead of that meeting, I had requested a meeting with Mike Pillsbury, from the perspective that it could be a much more productive meeting for the both of us.  

    But how should I explain to Mike, or anyone else I might talk to, your frequently expressed concerns as to my sanity?  

    I was in the process of forwarding to the Princess the Gordon Novel letter that I had mistakenly posted to the blog yesterday, and then my apology, when Ron called.  This is what I then wrote to the Princess.....
    I just had a call from the Footmann.  He's claiming that his statement [above], referring to my lack of sanity, was just meant to be rhetorical.

    I hope that's the case.  But I told him that Debbie, Throop, the family physician, a psychologist, a psychiatrist, and most of the good folks at Grace Fellowship Church have expressed, or would if asked, severe reservations as to the state of my sanity.  

    This is the issue that I'm presently addressing on the blog.  

    So there I was, in my car near the Beltway, awaiting directions from Ron as to where to meet with Mike.  There was an exchange of communication between various of the third parties, and the consensus was that I should return to home base, which I did.  Some, folks, near and dear, took this maneuver as just another symptom of my insanity.... fair enough.  

    Look, sports fans, we all know that the paradigm symptom of insanity is that you think you're Jesus and that you've come back to warn humanity about the end of the world.  And, if Mike Pillsbury had asked me, point blank, if this is what I believed, I could not honestly have made a flat out denial.  Now, at the least, Mike has been forewarned.

    That's the short story.... that's what we could expect from the tabloid headlines.  Get over it, get used to it, folks.   Now, let's move on.....

    What do I actually think, beyond the possible headlines?  I believe, and the wishing well hypothesis (WWH) stands to lend considerable credence to the supposition, that the hypothesis of scientific materialism is about to collapse, and that we are about to witness the MoAPS, the mother of all paradigm shifts.  

    Yes, this would constitute an historically unprecedented gestalt switch in our assumptions about our own existence and the nature of reality.

    It was with this possibility in mind that, in my first public posting about Ron, on the CompuServe UFO forum, I referred to myself, in biblical terms, as the Spirit of the Truth.  That was 25 years ago, and the so called R&D show has continued up to the present day.  

    The fact that I have, indeed, been doing business under the moniker of the SoT, could easily lead to my psychiatric confinement, without delving into all the rest of the best possible world hypothesis (BPWH).

    It was just a few years later that Ron, bless his heart, stated..... everyone knows that I (Ron) am Catfish, and you (Dan) are Sunfish.  This was apropos of our newly formed Aquarium, to differentiate ourselves from the much more venerable Aviary.  

    I think Ron knows by now that if he gives me an inch, I'll always take the extra mile.  And it did not take me too many milliseconds to imagine the alternate spelling of Sunfish.  Poor Ron, here he is, having played a part in creating the 'monster' you see before you.  Can we not absolve him of most of the blame?  


    3:50FT---------

    I finally had a conversation with Grant Cameron.  He had virtually retired from UFO investigating, until just after the election, when his mail box started filling up.  He's been called back into service

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    Please remove and then stop posting false information about me from loons.
    ...Roger, Wilco]

    This is all happening on the Aviary/Intelligence side.  We haven't heard from the military/Navy/MJ12 side.  Maybe they're resisting disclosure.  But Grant agreed that, likely, we are already beyond the PNR.   The toothpaste is not going to be put back in tube.  


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    Post by Peregrine Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:13 am

    Dan

    Regardless of what anybody says, you are NOT insane. You are a very ardent advocate, maybe sometimes even over-zealous, concerning a subject that most of the population would consider wacko in the first place. In that light, many people would, indeed, regard you as insane. I'm sure that, at the time, there were many scientists and lay people that considered Einstein, with his Theory of Relativity, considering the notion that light could actually be affected by gravity to be a rather silly and near insane proposition. The world found out better.

    Your own monicker suggests that the sky is falling. Please don't let it fall on you. Take a deep breath and smell the roses. You have many friends that love and respect you more than you appreciate.

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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:39 am

    Dan the man.

    I am no one, so take my opinion as nothing, which I'm sure most here do.

    Perfect.

    But I know things.

    Beamed into my head?

    Well, I dig the programming.

    I know Dan and his friends are onto something.

    I turned to their channel.

    When I turn to your channel, it means something.

    I never met anyone like them or him.

    He's certifiable.

    I love his crazy.

    The rest of you I have met so far related to this are boring with very little imagination.

    Yah yah, maybe there are 10k+ people working in secret by choice or forced.

    I dunno.

    Well, if true, thank you.

    At least Dan has balls.

    The rest hide.

    I'm being rough on the hide and seekers.

    Well, wake up. Hiding is over.

    Dan hides from nothing.

    I hide from Dan, but I love him.

    And round and round we go.

    You guys ain't getting any younger.

    This is gonna play out another 1000-2000 years while the Kali Yuga wraps up.

    It doesn't matter what name you give it or who was right or wrong.

    The players matter not.

    You worked hard.

    You did well Dan.

    You have vision.

    Dan, take care of yourself and the people in your care.

    To the rest of you, I am the Ghost of Rumi here in your present.

    I have a message for you.

    Stop waiting for a future that is already here.

    Live in and inhabit it.

    What kind of world do you want?

    Fuck your present Dystopic nightmare.

    I reject your reality completely and substitute it with my own.

    If you believe you can, you can, so do it.

    Sham out.
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:31 am

    Thanks, Sham,

    Your words are bit harsh.  It sounds like you are trying to wake up the sleeping dogs.  You leave my deplorables alone.   Yes?  

    You're sleeping dogs are my sleeper agents..... ye of little faith, Sham.

    I'm reasonably confident that Donald is no longer sleeping.  He is in the process of waking up.  We just don't want him to get out the wrong side of bed.  

    10K who have been briefed....?  Perhaps, but more to the point, there are 10M old souls who are aware.  You are and I are not the only ones.  


    2:30FT------

    If I had been asked to come up with Donald's inauguration speech, I would not have had the guts to be as populist as he was.  Yes, he will make a good shepherd for the deplorables, bless his heart.  

    He wil provide the best possible cover for our word of mouth disclosure.  

    Even CNN agrees that this was the most radical inauguration speech, ever.   You go, Donald.  

    And now the pundits are pointing out that this has been his standard campaign speech all along.  Same speech, very different context.  

    Virtually the same speech could have be delivered by Karl or Jesus, the only difference was the America first aspect. But you do notice that he did put God before America.


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