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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by GSB/SSR Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:10 am

    And for the insane, or other wise, we present:

    Schroedinger's Cat is not Alone

    http://arxiv.org/pdf/1004.4206v4

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    (Submitted on 23 Apr 2010 (v1), last revised 31 Mar 2011 (this version, v4))
    We introduce the `Complete Wave Function' and deduce that all living beings, not just Schroedinger's cat, are actually described by a superposition of `alive' and `dead' quantum states; otherwise they would never die. Therefore this proposal provides a quantum mechanical explanation to the world-wide observation that we all pass away. Next we consider the Measurement problem in the framework of M-theory. For this purpose, together with Schroedinger's cat we also place inside the box Rasputin's cat, which is unaffected by poison. We analyse the system identifying its excitations (catons and catinos) and we discuss its evolution: either to a classical fight or to a quantum entanglement. We also propose the BSVΨ scenario, which implements the Complete Wave Function as well as the Big Bang and the String Landscape in a very (super)natural way. Then we test the gravitational decoherence of the entangled system applying an experimental setting due to Galileo. We also discuss the Information Loss paradox. For this purpose we consider a massless black cat falling inside a massive black hole. After that we outline a method to compute the contribution of black cats to the dark matter of the universe. Finally, in the spirit of Schroedinger, we propose that next generation double-slit experiments should use cats as projectiles. Cat interferometry will inevitably lead to the `Many Cats' interpretation of Quantum Mechanics, allowing to shed new light on old mysteries and paradoxes. For example, according to this interpretation, conservative estimates show that decision making of a single domestic cat will create about 550 billion whole universes every day, with as many replicas of itself.


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    Post by Jake Reason Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:44 pm

    Dan wrote:
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    In preparation for the show, please only cc those who are directly involved.   Leave off the list the usual loons, crooks, and worse.
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    Post by Jake Reason Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:13 pm

    skaizlimit wrote:Jake, no doubt the Catholic hierarchy has long been rife with corruption, sometimes of the worst sort; however, does this invalidate the Catholic Church, the foundation of which is sacramental and not theological?

    ... should have added "nor judicial".
    Nicely worded question.

    Firstly in answer to the added "nor judicial" part, I would remind you that "exclusivity" is the highest expression of "judicial". Something that both the Jehovah Witness and Catholics have in common. Their certainty and insistence of being the only true Church of God, it one of their greatest iniquities.

    Now back to the main question....

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    Post by Jake Reason Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:41 pm

    skaizlimit wrote:Jake, no doubt the Catholic hierarchy has long been rife with corruption, sometimes of the worst sort; however, does this invalidate the Catholic Church, the foundation of which is sacramental and not theological?
    John,

    Your wording of your question is so kindly, sincere and thoughtfully written.  I will try to answer in same.

    My first thought is that our views concerning this divine tragedy in the history of our faith, will pale when we see Him face to face.  We, the faithful,  in every generation, have shed so many tears for what we all know should never have been.  We can be comforted in knowing, He will wipe away all our tears of all the years.

    My second thought is to contemplate, how would our Heavenly Father answer this question?  And what of His Son?

    But before we could begin we must ask, Where would we find an understanding of G-d/Son's answer?

    We have only a few major choices.
    a)  Old Testament
    b)  New Testament
    c)  Historical Inspired Teachers
    d)  Tradition.

    In other words, what/who is the author and authority of our faith?



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    Post by dan Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:58 pm

    Gary,

    Thank you for the Podesta note.  It could be the first move from the White House.  Who knows?


    Jake,

    You left out something.......

    e.)  Spirit of Truth.

    You may have intended to include this under your item 'c', but it ought to be emphasized, nonetheless. No?



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    Post by Jake Reason Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:08 pm

    dan wrote:
    Jake,

    You left out something.......

    e.)  Spirit of Truth.

    You may have intended to include this under your item 'c', but it ought to be emphasized, nonetheless.  No?  
    Yes, I would place the influence of the Holy Spirit being in category 'c' (Inspired).

    But I think you know where I'm going with that.  With regards to the question of author/authority of faith, Protestants are most likely to choose 'a/b' almost exclusively.  With HS/SoT influence always being tested against 'a/b' (the Bible)   Whereas Catholics place an added emphasis of 'c/d' in their view of author/authority of faith.

    Which makes answering John's question difficult.

    Now, John may merely be interested in my personal answer to his question, as opposed to a more eternally applicable answer.  If this be the case, then we do not need to query the Heavenly Father and the Son.

    As you see, I'm taking his question very seriously.

    My personal answer to the first part of his question would be:

    No, the historical corruption of the Catholic hierarchy does Not invalidate the Catholic Church.

    However, as a devout Protestant Christian I am obligated to have some validative authority for my answer.  My covenant with G-d does not permit me to make up my own doctrine, unless it remains entirely coherent with all scripture (a/b) and cosmological natural law (observed creation).  I must be able to answer for everything I believe.  It is my calling.

    And so on that mark, I can sight John's Revelation 18:4.  If Heaven's people are called out from Mystery Babylon, then Heaven's people must be IN it.

    Now I understand that is a rather mysterious way of answering, but I can't think of a more expedient succinct way at this moment.


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    The second part of John's question is framed to query if the Catholic Church is invalid because its "foundation of which is sacramental and not theological?"

    I believe this framing arose in John's mind partially influenced by my previous comments about Idolatry - (bottom of post here).  As "sacramental" is the term used by Catholicism to describe their religious practices, which are often considered to be forms of Idolatry, by most Protestant Denominations and Judaism.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacrament

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacraments_of_the_Catholic_Church




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    Post by Cyrellys Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:13 pm

    Jake Reason wrote:
    Dan wrote:
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    Dan,

    In preparation for the show, please only cc those who are directly involved.   Leave off the list the usual loons, crooks, and worse.
    My! and the list was quite short to begin with.



    Ron is likely referring to me, Jake.  You know it's rather provincial from a globalist pov to think that Drone R&D will roam Africa to return home as small, neat, weaponized contraptions to hunt down and exterminate the Constitution guarding undesireables in our mountain state strongholds as part of the wealth redistribution of the planet plan.  Why because they know we won't stand for BS like "stop at 2" policies designed to keep the population securely on the plantation, dumbed down, and malleable.

    I'm vocal so I'm not welcome on the list.  And Sarfatti finds me particularly annoying.

    And dropping the "loons", which is "moderns" lingo for us rural observant hicks, means they secure themselves from having to face awkward questions about russian helicopters practicing operations on our terrain or the dropping of chemtrails to below 2000 feet, or agenda 21 nixing of gardening in and around cities so that whilst we seemingly bend over backwards to save rhinos on the far side of the planet, we ensure overuse of non-renewable resources and neglect sustainability practices so that the American Citizenry continue to appear retarded, opulent, and despotic.  It's easier to operate when you can control the landscape with provincial denigration so that you can complete developmental projects, beta testing, and then distribution of the finished product for the targeted us.

    By all means keep the work under the table where no one might notice.

    Well, too late.

    "We might have to weaponize them...."

    Ron this is called "damage control" and "saving face" on your part.  

    Calling people "loons, crooks, and worse" is just another way of showing a devaluation of living people with values, opinions, arguments, or related information presented as part of the conversation.  The only thing it does is make you either appear to be part of the crooked system, or like an ostrich with your head in the sand.

    You, know it's really hard to take your truths seriously at face value when you and your upline don't take any of ours seriously at face value. Turn-about-being fair play is an unfortunate truthy cliche, ya know? The system and all its NGOs in tow working on its initiatives but pretending to be separate and above board has raised such a storm here at home that it is rapidly approaching the point of all things being suspect...even if it isn't walking, quacking, or dropping feathers like a duck down miles of conversational road.

    Respectfully but firmly,

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    Edit: Btw, I really liked Cloudrider (DF)'s reply,Dan posted.


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    Post by dan Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:03 am

    I met with Sam, yesterday, to compare notes on these latest developments...... re: maniac or messiah.  There's not a whole lot of middle ground.  Well, sure, it could be half&half, and then the only trick is to figure out which half is which.  

    In the past I have spoken of the R,A&D show.  It appears now that it's mainly intended to be the A&D show, coming to a computer near you, on Tuesday.  I'm arranging to meet with the Princess prior to the show, to go over some basic items of protocol.  How important is it to avoid mentioning Catfish, for instance?  The more that we can work around Ron, the better off we will all be, but there are limits to our myopia, in that regard.  

    Bottom line, here, is the presupposition of a disturbing message.  The realization of the (eschatological) outline of this message first struck me, back in 1981.  The possible urgency of it did not emerge until 1991.  That was the year of the Aquarium.  That was when I figured out how to call '911'.  

    Since '91, I have been taking every opportunity to make noise about the Eschaton, but there are limits to what people can comprehend, at any given time, even, or especially, in our rapidly developing history.  

    You and I, Princess, have now been afforded a new opportunity to get out the message, in the best possible way.  After all, even more important than the 'bottom line' is our one other presupposition.... that we inhabit the best of all possible worlds.  We will definitely need to keep this fact in mind as we consider the spiritual upheavals that are in store for us.  

    Is it true what they say, Princess, that all good things must end? How sad is that?

    But, yes, sadness is a necessary part of life, it is a necessary part of our best possible world. And, yes, beyond this veil of tears there is Eternity. And don't we, in every faith, every day pray, in one way or another, for The Lord to hurry?



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    Post by Cyrellys Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:36 am

    Dan, I happen to think if you can't produce a one-liner, point blank blunt statement of what your "disturbing message" actually is, then either:

    a. You don't know what it is
    1a. and you're projecting an assumption
    2a. you are playing the harp buying time till something fits the bill

    b. it is an irresponsible meme insertion designed to color the paradigm.

    c. If you can't spell it out, I'm sick of hearing about it.


    If there is such a thing as a project blue beam, it is precisely this..."Oh the sky is falling! but I can't tell you - national security you know."

    Really? Bah humbug.

    You know what?: "This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.

    I'd make a heck of a baseball player...mostly because the pitcher desperately needs to be told "shutup and just throw the dmn ball gabby."

    The older I get the less patience I have for power mongering like "national security says I can't specifically say, because...." EXCUSES! My kids don't get to give lame arse excuses so why should there be a special class of adults allowed to do it? And don't say, oh because if we told you, the general population would freak out. Well news flash the general population is on the brink of freaking on all you NS apparatus nutjobs anyway because of reasons far more justified so you're not really getting out of it. Might as well spill the beans and be done with it, because the day is coming when they get hammered just for being crooks or associated with crooks.

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    Post by dan Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:56 am

    Well, Cy, not to put to fine a point on it, or anything.......!

    The disturbing message, as I've said on these pages, for the umpteenth time, is that the world is about to end.  

    The good news is that it is going to end in the best possible way, at the best possible time, and that will be within ~one millennium, TBMK.

    But then, you might well wonder, why has the responsibility for delivering this message been delegated to the Princess and me?  By what authority do Aliyah and I speak?  

    If we speak on any authority, Cy, we must speak on behalf of all authority.  We must speak on behalf of you, Jake and everyone else.  Do we have your permission to do this?  And, if not, how might anyone gain that permission?  

    Or, more to the point, why might anyone need that permission?

    Allow me, please, to explain why I think I need and deserve your permission to go ahead with the task that appears to have been presented to me, and Aliyah........

    The world is in a spiritual gridlock.  We have risen to the cosmic glass-ceiling, if you will.  

    In case of emergency, we need to break the glass.  How is the best way to go about doing that?  And this is a question that, for those of us who look to a Source, should put to the Source.  And is the answer not reasonably clear?  

    All of us live in or near to one or more prophetic traditions.  Each of these traditions speaks of its prophet of the Endtimes.  And many times you have heard me refer to the 4M/K/SoT/X2.  This is my nemonic amalgamation of these various prophets.  

    Now, in the best of possible worlds, would it not be very helpful, from a logistic PoV, to have these various prophets be working from the same play-sheet, to the extent possible?  This would simply be to facilitate our global communications, to the optimal degree.  

    Now, Cy, here is what I bring to this table.  I bring my very own play-sheet.  IOW, this play-sheet was not handed to me, beyond what I was told in John 16:12ff.  That was back in '76.  Since then, I've been filling in the many blanks, mostly by what I hear from other folks like you, Cy, and what I can gather from books, and, yes, lately, from wikipedia.  That is a lot of help.  Where would I be without all that amazing help?  I would be absolutely nowhere.  

    So, Cy, I am happy to put this ball right back in your court........ who do you think could do a better job at this than A&D?  I, at least, am open to suggestions.  The Princess, of course, will speak for herself.  

    As your first suggestion, I would suggest that you nominate yourself.  And, guess what, Cy?  Just look around you.  Are you not already in the Center court at Wimbledon, if Center court there be.  Just don't be stage-struck.  That tends to be an occupational hazard in these precincts.  Acting natural is always the hardest job for any actor.  



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    dan wrote:
    But then, you might well wonder, why has the responsibility for delivering this message been delegated to the Princess and me?  By what authority do Aliyah and I speak?  

    If we speak on any authority, Cy, we must speak on behalf of all authority.  We must speak on behalf of you, Jake and everyone else.  Do we have your permission to do this?  And, if not, how might anyone gain that permission?  
    You're not even spiritually turned on yet, Dan. Until you are, you can not even begin to wield any effective authority. Not even Caesar has any authority over that which you are proclaiming here to possess.

    Those who have been given the authority, already know. They will proclaim what is coming. Not you.

    There. You will not be able to argue that no one was sent to inform you.

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    Now that aside...

    Cy, I would presume that if Mrs Shell Mountain were still with us, she would likely sympathize with your stumping here today. I may be wrong, but I think I hear a "Hear! Hear!" echoing through the woods.

    What do you think, Dan. Would dear sister have enjoyed Cy's vigor?

    Anyway, can you blame her? Or is there someone else to blame?

    I came online to finish my reply to J/Skaizlimit. I see that might be an interruption at this time, so I'll do that later. Carry on


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    dan wrote:Well, Cy, not to put to fine a point on it, or anything.......!

    The disturbing message, as I've said on these pages, for the umpteenth time, is that the world is about to end.  

    The good news is that it is going to end in the best possible way, at the best possible time, and that will be within ~one millennium, TBMK.

    But then, you might well wonder, why has the responsibility for delivering this message been delegated to the Princess and me?  By what authority do Aliyah and I speak?  

    If we speak on any authority, Cy, we must speak on behalf of all authority.  We must speak on behalf of you, Jake and everyone else.  Do we have your permission to do this?  And, if not, how might anyone gain that permission?  

    Or, more to the point, why might anyone need that permission?

    Allow me, please, to explain why I think I need and deserve your permission to go ahead with the task that appears to have been presented to me, and Aliyah........

    The world is in a spiritual gridlock.  We have risen to the cosmic glass-ceiling, if you will.  

    In case of emergency, we need to break the glass.  How is the best way to go about doing that?  And this is a question that, for those of us who look to a Source, should put to the Source.  And is the answer not reasonably clear?  

    All of us live in or near to one or more prophetic traditions.  Each of these traditions speaks of its prophet of the Endtimes.  And many times you have heard me refer to the 4M/K/SoT/X2.  This is my nemonic amalgamation of these various prophets.  

    Now, in the best of possible worlds, would it not be very helpful, from a logistic PoV, to have these various prophets be working from the same play-sheet, to the extent possible?  This would simply be to facilitate our global communications, to the optimal degree.  

    Now, Cy, here is what I bring to this table.  I bring my very own play-sheet.  IOW, this play-sheet was not handed to me, beyond what I was told in John 16:12ff.  That was back in '76.  Since then, I've been filling in the many blanks, mostly by what I hear from other folks like you, Cy, and what I can gather from books, and, yes, lately, from wikipedia.  That is a lot of help.  Where would I be without all that amazing help?  I would be absolutely nowhere.  




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    No Dan you don't have my permission, but that doesn't stop anyone from doing so in a free speech world. You don't require permission. No on does. And that is a good thing.

    But I will point out to you for the umpteenth time, because you haven't heard it every time I've said it....

    YOU ARE WRONG. THE WORLD IS NOT GOING TO END. MANKIND IS NOT AT A SPIRITUAL IMPASSE. THERE IS NO GRIDLOCK....THERE IS ONLY MYOPIA ON THE PART OF THE SO CALLED PROPHETS.

    You guys need to get out more.

    I'm not going to reiterate how I know this Dan. You can go read back through your own threads and read my posts.

    And if this is what you're teaching the PTB, then you're contributing to an already messed up situation.

    Oh and btw something else that has been bugging the crud out of me, if your "princess" is an American citizen, then she's no "Princess". She gave that up and all such claims associated to it when she became a citizen! That you and Ron continue to refer to her as a "Princess" with royal claims tells me neither of you two understand our founders principles upon which this nation is based! But oh that's ok (sarcasm) because the POTUS is busy re-establishing the feudal plantation and its priorities and values.

    Hearing you three talk is something like how crazy it would be for me to go stake a claim over the territory of ancient Mumu in Eire and then start meddling in their day to day affairs from a nation and its platforms on the far side of the planet.

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    Post by dan Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:55 am

    And a worthy riposte, Cy.  

    Princess, indeed!  Yes, it is rather a charade on the part of a doting husband, but there may also be a spark of truth, if truth be known.  Kashmir could do a lot worse than with a Princess.  No?!

    So, ok, neither you nor Jake, both of whom know me better than anyone else, online, are not about to give me one shed of permission to the the Spirit of Truth.

    But, then, I can only reiterate my above question........ Who in our stead? And don't be bashful. Truth must begin at home, must it not?



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    Post by Cyrellys Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:03 am

    Simon Black has a point, truth is a great holiday gift idea.


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    Post by dan Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:16 am

    The simple fact is that everyone else is standing on their respective ceremonies.  Aliyah and I are a bit unusual in that we have no ceremonies upon which to stand.  All we have to do is act natural.  

    So, ok, consider us to be the acting, wannabe SoT's, with or without anyone's permission.  

    The Source has two options.........

    1.)  Strike us dead and/or

    2.)  Send a replacement, pronto......!  

    But I think that you and Jake do realize that it is hardly beyond the realm of plausibility that the Princess and I do have the tacit permission of Uncle Sam to proceed with our little 'charade'.  Where is the harm to run a flag up a flag pole and see if anyone salutes.  OMF and WolfSpirit are just our little pretend focus groups.  This is just as innocent as innocent can be!  

    And guess what, Cy, you can pull the plug, here, anytime your little heart desires.  Just as Catfish can wrt to LotP.  

    Also, KIM, that the Princess labors under the impression that she was instrumental, on her last visit with him, in Benedict's decision to step down prematurely. This is something we may be discussing on the show. Stranger things have happened, have they not?



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    Post by Cyrellys Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:42 am

    dan wrote:The simple fact is that everyone else is standing on their respective ceremonies.  Aliyah and I are a bit unusual in that we have no ceremonies upon which to stand.  All we have to do is act natural.  

    So, ok, consider us to be the acting, wannabe SoT's, with or without anyone's permission.  

    The Source has two options.........

    1.)  Strike us dead and/or

    2.)  Send a replacement, pronto......!  




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    Dan that isn't how the message in the bottle read.

    Dan wrote:So, ok, neither you nor Jake, both of whom know me better than anyone else, online, are not about to give me one shed of permission to the the Spirit of Truth.

    And once more for the hard of hearing:

    No Dan you don't have my permission, but that doesn't stop anyone from doing so in a free speech world. You don't require permission. No on does. And that is a good thing.

    No one requires permission to receive the Spirit of Truth Dan! Its open to everyone who slows down, calms their emotions, stills the chatter in their minds, and LISTENS. You don't have to be reborn to 'get it'. You don't have to be some prophet.

    Because of the potential recognized within each individual person by the Source, it is inherent.

    It is the potential which each person is obligated to work to fulfill in each lifetime. Each cycle of lifetimes.

    It doesn't stop in a millennia or even many millennia, unless you or some eugenic degenerate does something catastrophic out of shear idiocy. Everyone's job to be on the watch for that and put a stop to it before it happens.

    So maybe it isn't pathological insanity to complain about government putting rank 4 and above biolabs in the middle of population centers, or the agricultural bread basket of the planet.

    Maybe it isn't despotic to plant and maintain vegetable gardens in the cities instead of lawns.

    Maybe it isn't despotic to be horrified over this:

    http://www.armytimes.com/article/20131211/NEWS/312110013/Report-VA-lobotomized-2-000-disturbed-veterans

    and this

    http://www.capecodtoday.com/blogs/farley/2010/10/02/8714-clandestine-human-experimentation-disclosed-more-come

    or this

    http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and-technology/2013/12/store-mannequins-with-rfid-tracking-now-recording-everything-you-do-videos-2659638.html

    or

    http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/12/epa-attack-on-self-sufficiency-expanding-authority-would-control-all-water-even-mud-puddles-2847722.html

    or so many other things I could list on and on and on. But it could be suggested that ignoring such things to compile a prediction the world is going to end based on what the unconcerned have interpreted is.

    There's so much insanity out there at the moment due to social and intellectual conditioning that no one really cares if someone is insane or espousing something sanctioned because of insanity.

    This is what gluttons for punishment do. And mankind is its own worst enemy. The Source has no need to wipe anyone off the map. The Source is not a short lived entity. And this is one small world in a Universe the inhabitants are only beginning to conceptualize with any degree of accuracy.

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    Dan wrote:But I think that you and Jake do realize that it is hardly beyond the realm of plausibility that the Princess and I do have the tacit permission of Uncle Sam to proceed with our little 'charade'. Where is the harm to run a flag up a flag pole and see if anyone salutes. OMF and WolfSpirit are just our little pretend focus groups. This is just as innocent as innocent can be!

    And guess what, Cy, you can pull the plug, here, anytime your little heart desires. Just as Catfish can wrt to LotP.

    Also, KIM, that the Princess labors under the impression that she was instrumental, on her last visit with him, in Benedict's decision to step down prematurely. This is something we may be discussing on the show. Stranger things have happened, have they not?


    As Synch's Apprentice, I'm learning to follow suit with the Source. I'm not going to pull the plug on you Dan. I might point out the problems with what you are doing and presenting, but you're going to learn by experience - of you're own creation. And there's nothing innocent about it, lol."

    As to the Aliya and Benedict, well yes it has been noticed that there is a sect of globalists working their posteriors off to create the proverbial "endtimes" prophecied.

    Perhaps they found out that the Source had other plans and that just didn't sit well with them?

    Poor Benedict...he steps down so an inheritor of the Martin Borman post WWII South America paradigm and those who helped that bunch escape justice can take the helm?

    Maybe the world will forgive them if they evolve the situation so that the alternative space program with its fully functioning fleet can emerge without some mur type swooping in for recompense?

    Maybe. Or is it so that there is insurance that the mideast experiences full dismantlment? or worse, glass'ification? Or maybe a bit of that last over here, sanctioned upon some place like South Carolina?

    There is no shortage of Oathkeepers in the system hunting little stunts like that. All the purging in the world is not going to nix mankind fulfilling the predicted potential that the "End of the Worlders" seem to think so nasty.

    More people want that potential than the darkness of oblivion.

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    Source: White Out Press wrote:December 11, 2013[
    Obama Administration issues Martial Law Directive
     
    December 11, 2013. Washington. Bureaucrats and politicians will never use the term Martial Law. Instead, the phrase ‘continuity of government’ is substituted. In reality, they’re the same thing. Last month, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence – the head of the entire US intelligence and security apparatus – released instructions for the implementation of Martial Law in America.



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    James Clapper, Director of the Office of National Intelligence. Image courtesy of Legend of Pine Ridge blog.


    The federal government’s planning for Martial Law in America stopped being a conspiracy theory after the attacks on 9/11. Numerous Executive Orders, Presidential Directives, and other unilateral dictates by the Executive Branch have spelled out in great detail how Martial Law can and will be enforced in the event of a national emergency. But the timing of the latest Intelligence Directive – November 12, 2013 – makes many Americans wonder what exactly the Obama administration knows that the rest of us don’t.

    Legitimate concerns vs. tyrannical dictators

    History offers us two examples, both American, of why a ‘continuity of government’ program is needed. During the War of 1812, the British had burned Washington DC to the ground. The President of the United States, James Madison, was left fleeing through the woods, alone in the dark. While the first lady, Dolly Madison, was the last to leave and stood fearless against the enemy’s torches as she frantically and selflessly saved America’s most sacred national treasures.
    Flash forward to the final days of the Civil War and Confederate President Jefferson Davis. Two of his three commanding Generals, Lee and Johnston, had just surrendered their armies and the majority of his country was in enemy hands. But without the consent of the people, and against the wishes of his Army, Jefferson Davis assumed the rolls of a tyrannical dictator and refused to surrender. History recalls how Davis was never able to set up his covert, authoritarian government and was apprehended while disguised as a woman attempting to evade capture.

    One big difference
    The above examples show why a continuity of government plan is needed by any government on any level. But there’s something frighteningly different about the above examples compared to the Bush and Obama administrations’ joint efforts today. In the past, continuity and security programs were designed to protect the federal government from take-over by a foreign power. Now, the programs appear aimed at protecting the government from a take-over by the American people.
    Contrary to common misconceptions, these aren’t ‘conspiracy theories.’ The White House, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Department of Homeland Security, and the rest all publicly release many of the Orders, Directives and memos that explain exactly what will happen in the case of a national emergency. But among the thousands of documents, from the Patriot Act to EO 12333, there is a string of orders gaining national attention by civil libertarians that has ominous and fearful implications.

    NSPD 51 & HSPD 20 – National Continuity Policy
    On May 9, 2007, President George W. Bush signed a, ‘National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive.’ The combined document included, ‘National Security Presidential Directive 51 (NSPD 51)’ and ‘Homeland Security Presidential Directive 20 (HSPD 20).’
    The first paragraph of the 2007 Presidential Directive describes its intended purpose:

    ‘This directive establishes a comprehensive national policy on the continuity of Federal Government structures and operations and a single National Continuity Coordinator responsible for coordinating the development and implementation of Federal continuity policies. This policy establishes "National Essential Functions," prescribes continuity requirements for all executive departments and agencies, and provides guidance for State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector organizations in order to ensure a comprehensive and integrated national continuity program that will enhance the credibility of our national security posture and enable a more rapid and effective response to and recovery from a national emergency.’


    In plain speak, this Presidential Directive was President Bush’s attempt to declare himself, or the office of the President to be more specific, as the dictatorial power during any national emergency, including natural disasters, economic disasters, wars, etc.

    Section 6 of the Directive describes the exact three individuals who will assume authority for the entire federal government in the event of an emergency, including all three branches of government and the nation’s military. The US President shall assume unlimited and unchallenged authority and all decision-making responsibilities. The President’s wishes will be carried out by two specific individuals – the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism (APHS/CT) and the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs (APNSA).
    NSPD 51/HSPD 20 specifically states:

    ‘The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government. In order to advise and assist the President in that function, the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism (APHS/CT) is hereby designated as the National Continuity Coordinator. The National Continuity Coordinator, in coordination with the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs (APNSA), without exercising directive authority, shall coordinate the development and implementation of continuity policy for executive departments and agencies. The Continuity Policy Coordination Committee (CPCC), chaired by a Senior Director from the Homeland Security Council staff, designated by the National Continuity Coordinator, shall be the main day-to-day forum for such policy coordination.’

    Click here to view the full NSPD51/HSPD20 Presidential Directive

    ICD 118 – Intelligence Community Continuity Program
    On November 12, 2013 – less than a month ago – the Director of National Intelligence James Clapper signed, ‘Intelligence Community Directive 118.’ While most Americans mistakenly believe the NSA or the CIA wield the most power when it comes to secret, covert spy programs, the truth is they are only two of America’s sixteen spy agencies that all fall under the authority and control of one man – the Director of National Intelligence.

    When President Bush signed NSPD 51/HSPD 20 in 2007, he gave himself the authority to assume one-man national rule over the entire United States. When Director of National Intelligence James Clapper signed ICD 118 last month, he created the structure and dictates by which it will happen.

    As ICD 118 explains, ‘This Intelligence Community (IC) Directive (ICD) governs the implementation of NSPD-51 by the IC to ensure an integrated approach to the provision of national intelligence to national leaders under all conditions.’ The Directive just issued by National Intelligence Director Clapper seems to be a detailed outline of how his intelligence agencies plan to carry out their responsibilities in the event that the White House assumes control of the government. But there’s more.


    Long term Martial Law

    Perhaps the most ominous part of last month’s Intelligence Community Directive 118 was its reference to overall time frames. When most Americans imagine a national emergency, they envision a powerful storm or earthquake, with a week or two of emergency management by the federal government. A worst case scenario might include another war that may last a year or two. But America’s intelligence community is imagining something much more long term.

    In detailing its roll in providing the President and national leaders with timely and accurate intelligence during a national emergency, ICD 118 promises to produce a detailed assessment of their ongoing responsibilities every two years. The document states:

    ‘The DNI will: a. Oversee and integrate IC continuity activities to ensure that: (1) The President, the Vice President, statutory successors, and other national leaders, as appropriate, are provided with timely, insightful, objective, and relevant national intelligence wherever they are located and in all conditions; (2) National intelligence is furnished to the National Continuity System; and (3) Sensitive Compartmented Information security across the programs and networks of the National Continuity System is appropriately managed. b. In coordination with the Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security, produce a biennial assessment of the foreign and domestic threats to the Nation’s continuity of government, in accordance with NSPD-51.’

    Summary and final question
    Many Americans argue that city, county and state governments are capable of taking care of themselves during a national emergency. The federal government is needed to protect from exterior threats. But now, in addition to protecting Americans from foreign invaders, the federal government is protecting Americans from themselves. In other words, the government apparatus is protecting itself from any possible rebellion or revolution here at home, no matter how unlikely.

    And while civil libertarians argue about the legality of such a unilateral power grab by the White House and the Executive Branch, others are fearfully wondering about the timing of the most recent Intelligence Directive. President Bush created the program for Martial Law in 2007. Why did America’s entire security apparatus suddenly release the details by which they will carry out Martial Law last month, six years later? Is there something more to the timing?

    Read the complete text of Intelligence Community Directive 118


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    Post by Bard Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:24 am

    dan wrote:Well, Cy, not to put to fine a point on it, or anything.......!

    The disturbing message, as I've said on these pages, for the umpteenth time, is that the world is about to end.  

    The good news is that it is going to end in the best possible way, at the best possible time, and that will be within ~one millennium, TBMK.

    One Millennium? Heck, why am I wasting Precious moments here trying to move mountains?  Some of the Natives of this land only planned to secure six generations into the future.

    Going back a bit in time from some thoughts on this Blog:  You said your physics friends don't put much stock in your dreams, Dan? Dreams at all?  How many of the most profound physics formulas, inventions, and great insights were solved in the dream throughout time?  

    Grin.  

    Be careful that you don't miss out on those three burning symbols, obscured behind a smokey haze.  Have you ever dreamed of such - lamenting on how frustratingly close the answer might be yet out of focus - awakening to its mysterious nature?

    When you 'know' you no longer 'see' - forcing mysteries to become more hidden from revelation. Of course - most everyone here, and some powerful offices strategically detached from the 'woo-woos' are qeenly aware by now of its truths.

    Should I just let you and Sam handle this? Oh, and the princess, of course...?

    You got my back, right.......? Or, right in my back?

    Secrecy requires such questions, naturally... does it not?  You can't blame public opinion for such bitter reviews.  I mean - let's be honest - we are paying you, right?

    Don't mind me, embracing my insignifigance here amongst the mighty stones on the Hill.  I'll just keep smiling and live in the mystery.  You guys got this!


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    Post by dan Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:02 am

    MD02,  

    I'm pretty good at generating ambiguity, but not so good at deciphering it.  May I surmize that you are a bit less negatory wrt my truthiness?  And that is a fairly low bar, in this precinct.  Payday?  Hmmm........  Who pays the piper?  I pay the Princess, in all truthiness.  It is sad, is it not?  Weep for me.  


    And, yes, sports fans, there was a meeting of the aquarium minds, that went late into the evening.  Well, there was a physical meeting, at least.  The door was opened, and I have one foot planted within.  Even before I could try to insert my second foot, I could feel the back pressure.  I was going to push for once a month.  But, no, I was offered twice a year.  Ouch.  Hmmm...... How about every other month?  

    Somewhat inadvertently, I neglected to play one of my aces.  Maybe just as well, given the general wariness.  But, I'll be glad to play it here, it being a familiar refrain.  Perhaps I can sharpen it bit........

    1.)  Disturbing message...... check.

    2.)  Small world.......... oops!  

    How could I have neglected #2? Surely I was asleep at the switch. Just as well. This may be my one chance to get the other foot in the door. I need to be wide awake for that one. Will I pop it on the air? Am I a sneak-thief in the night? You can bet your bippy.

    Speaking of which, Ron is threatening a surprise guest. It might even be my old buddy, Robert Park, former president of the APA. He and I have probably had one too many run-ins, already.

    Maniac or messiah, indeed!



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    dan wrote:
    The door was opened, and I have one foot planted within.  Even before I could try to insert my second foot, I could feel the back pressure.  I was going to push for once a month.  But, no, I was offered twice a year.  Ouch.  Hmmm...... How about every other month?  
    Even that's a disturbing message, Dan.

    I wouldn't like to be one who has to report to Clapper. Not that he would scare me, even though he should. But rather to have a job that would put me in that realm. I feel sorry for people who trap their lives in such situations. But I guess someone has to do it, so what can I do but at least be a little bit thankful, for whatever its worth.

    Snowden was lucky to have the balls to get out while he is still young enough to get his own life. Some would say he escaped from one prison into another. But at least his new one is R-e-a-l.

    I think I can hear the Twilight Zone theme song. And Hitchcock is sitting in a rocking chair comforting the Princess that everything will be alright. Fortunately, K. Rose is asleep. But she'll be waking up soon enough.


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    Post by dan Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:41 am

    Jake,

    For whom should we feel more sorry?  For Ron or for Jim?  What did Jim know, and when did he know it?  Rumor has it that he is hardly a babe in these woods.  Lucky boy.  

    Yes, when I'm talking to non-ufologers, as I have been doing recently, I do tend to neglect #2, because it is the toughest nut. But with the Princess, ufo's are definitely on her radar. It then comes back to the U/ETH.

    Given that we have been visited, and given the evident success of the cover-up, and giving credence to any other sorts of 'phenomenology', i.e. uncorrelated/paranormal phenomena, then, yes, we are faced with the possible truth of the small world hypothesis (SWH). And, very quickly, the SWH becomes the crux of the matter, leading directly to the BPWH and, even, the 4M/K/SoT/X2. And then it's all over, but the shouting.



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    Post by Jake Reason Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:05 am

    dan wrote:Jake,

    For whom should we feel more sorry?  For Ron or for Jim?
    Ron. Because Clapper, being a Department Chief, can more easily be fired, and more likely to be.


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    Post by GSB/SSR Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:16 am

    Clapper ran the last (officially acknowledged) group of paranormalists out of the DIA:

    http://www.starpod.us/2010/06/05/obama-pick-for-director-of-national-intelligence-knew-of-psychic-spies/

    Dan, are you prepared to brief me on recent machinations inside the AQUARIUM?


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