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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by Cyrellys Mon May 04, 2015 12:29 am

    First topic message reminder :

    dan wrote:Cy,

    I'm not in favor of guns, but I understand that some folks need that extra sense of security.  

    Yesterday we were at the national Cathedral doing the flower market for Kashmir-Rose.  Today we are headed to a WCUAVC flight day at a school down here.  


    Was looking at the connection between India and Greece back in the day.  In fact there was a Greco-Indian empire, created by Alexander the Great.  The mutual influence



    (cont.)



    Well guns have their place, but that wasn't the point...the point was that Hillary equates gun possession with violent individuals or groups and I think I quite clearly illustrated the problem with that kind of thinking by saying I've never been responsible for hurting someone.

    I'm not a violent person and my record attests to that. Hillary however is responsible for the deaths of two exemplary military members and one Ambassador, all by design. She also responsible for the arrests and loss of career of one General and one Admiral who attempted to send in a rescue party. They would have been successful in the rescue and then the creation of ISIS and the gun running that contributed to it would have been exposed. Nothing like wiping the proof of criminal wrong doing off the map to protect your own arse Hildebeast? Like any of us would forget and forgive her? Hillary apparently doesn't own guns and yet she's been responsible for the ending of at least three lives and two careers. She's five ahead of this gun owner. And that's just what we happen to know about. There's rumors her and her prior hubby were involved in the drug trade of Arkansas and S. America...then there's China and Walmart. I could go on but what's the point. Truth is too old fashioned and justice is also out-dated.

    I'm a celt so truth and justice is not a cultural trait in the eyes of the modern umbrella society which refuses to acknowledge those traits as part of the nation's psyche, but rather as a personal neurosis that they'd probably insist a straightjacket and heavy medication be applied to if I were within reach in DC. Truth and justice equals neurosis? What kind of thinking is that?!! But that's the spew emerging from orgs like DHS since its inception. So when it comes to commentary, turn-about-is-fair-play. They and their flunkies make snide comments about us and we return the favor.

    >>>on India and Greece...look at the Sanskrit language and old greek. Then compare it to Old Irish. Fascinating? Now look at some of the ideas each culture valued...same again. All three have same root system. Ah but why would anyone care about the legacy of the elder gods? 'er ET and the seeding of civilizations? Virmana are inconveniences...ah! and there once was one in the vicinity of Fermoy Eire of all places! That is if you can take the Christian overlay off the history.

    >>> on the subject of the Glyphs:

    432 Mystery

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    Post by dan Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:41 pm

    From: Dan
    Date: October 15, 2015 at 4:02:28 PM EDT
    To: Deepak
    Cc: ...
    Subject: Re: Teleology without a purpose.......?

    No, Deepak. I believe that it has been demonstrated, otherwise.........

    If teleology is the lynchpin of existence, then there can be no existence that is superfluous to the Telos.

    You, personally, may wish that you could be superfluous...... that you could just drift away. However, you are part of the cosmos, just like the rest of us, presumably. Therefore, we share the cosmic Telos with you.

    We all share a personal/rational purpose in our individual and collective lives.

    We do feel personally obligated to serve the cosmic purpose. Show me someone who does not, and I will show you a sociopath.

    Even the ISIS terrorists, it's important to note, feel that they are fulfilling the Cosmic plan of salvation. Unfortunately they are not using their rational minds sufficiently. They have not yet heard of the MoAPS.

    Maybe we can alleviate that deficiency. Would you care to help?


    On Oct 15, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Deepak wrote:

    The "individual " is an impermanent pattern of behavior of the universal .
    There is only the universal

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    Post by dan Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:26 pm

    From: Dan
    Date: October 15, 2015 at 6:32:11 PM EDT
    To: Paul, Robert and Deepak
    Cc: 44 others......
    Subject: Re: Another think coming..... MoAPS!

    Paul,

    Thank you for reminding me of this message from Robert.  


    Robert,

    Yes, by itself, swallowing the SWH seems like swallowing an elephant, even if only a small one ;-)

    And this is exactly why the entire scientific Establishment has its back against the wall, when it comes to teleology.  

    That simple political fact explains why the Scientific elite are so uptight about any sort of emergent, back action and teleological phenomena.  They know, full-well, that, if they swallow that gnat, in short order they will have swallow everything else.  


    Deepak,

    Yes, it is all an illusion, I agree.  But there is one crucial point that you have failed to grasp.  It may be the best possible illusion.  

    In such a case, this ol' world might have more staying power, cosmically, than you are willing to suppose.  

    You think you could do better?  Well, just wait until next September, when the global 'vectors' are scheduled to come into alignment.......



    On Oct 15, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Paul Zielinski wrote:

    Addinall stumbles into the truth.
    Yes, the MoAPS is definitely underway.

    On 10/15/2015 9:49 AM, Robert Addinall wrote:

    I think that for both Jack and myself one issue is your small world hypothesis [SWH]. It doesn't necessarily follow. However, in principle a "mother of all paradigm shifts" may happen or may even already be underway.


    From: Dan
    Date: October 15, 2015 at 8:19:59 PM EDT
    To: Paul Z
    Cc: 47 others.......
    Subject: Re: Teleology w/o sapience.....?

    Paul,

    I combine two of your emails, in this response......

    Excellent points!

    Panentheism.........? Shucks, I was going to have it be a surprise!

    Teleology...... admitted to the discussion......? Some folks would rather admit a skunk to their cocktail party.

    Science go up in smoke.......? Well, no. Science is a wonderful human pastime that has afforded us many life-saving and life-enhancing technologies. Science needs only some 'house-breaking'. It needs to learn a little more tolerance for possible larger truths.

    Teleology <<>> monadology......? Yes, Leibniz was a few years ahead of his time!


    >>>
    Teleology is no less inherently "rational" than ordinary causality, once teleological explanations are admitted to the discussion.

    Human rationality is as a matter of fact centered on purpose. I suppose the objection to natural teleology is that this is nothing
    more than a false projection of human purpose on nature.

    But then can't the same be said of ordinary causality -- as Hume famously argued? And if so, doesn't the whole concept of "natural
    science" go up in smoke?
    >>>


    On Oct 15, 2015, at 6:10 PM, Paul Zielinski wrote:

    Teleology needs to be anchored in a universal telos in order to be bound to cosmic meaning.

    Similar to Leibniz's arguments for a supreme monad.

    I agree that a strong argument can be made that such meaning would necessarily imply personality.

    I would argue that all of this can be encompassed within some form of panentheism.
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    Post by GSB/SSR Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:56 pm

    BPWH?

    “This version of the KN-08 has a much more credible design for the purpose of delivering nuclear warheads to American cities.”

    The design also suggested to analysts why Adm. Gortney could be so sure the KN-08 was in fact operational without testing. The missile’s new look, which also included a rounded nosecone instead of the tip seen three years ago, was a dead giveaway of its origin. “While there is no confirmation, the KN-08 exhibited in the recent parade in Pyongyang looks almost exactly like a version of the R-29, an old Soviet submarine-launched ballistic missile,” Bechtol told The Daily Beast ...

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/15/north-korea-s-scary-new-nuke-missiles.html

    You might want to hold any future meetings with Jack on the east coast! ;-)


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    Post by Cyrellys Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:40 am

    Good Morning Dan,

    I just finished reading down the page here and I do belief you have several gems hidden among the trees. I'll copy and paste them below here shortly.

    My apologies for not being in here lately, I've been a bit on the busy side with a reorganization of my info storage system, and now a prospective 8 books on my plate to choose from. I am more than 1/2 way done with the first novel. I have some quotes from you and others on the S-list I want to include in it and will eventually send to each of you a letter requesting permission.

    I could help some with that connection between Jack & Depak, but I've been off the list again for some while (I suspect that may be due to not sporting a university pedigree on my wall -- not that I'd wish to stoop to one! Bleh.)

    FYI the Easterners don't have the market cornered on reincarnation; the revolving door of lifetimes. It just seems that way since University libraries are often selective in their perview of the world...a little cracked, through which flows whole rivers!

    But I cannot complain too much as many may be credited with translations of oral recitations such as was on Mingulay, an outer isle of Barra, where there was a man in Arisaig, one very old, who each morning would make an adoration to the sun, and to the moon, and to the stars, to then be preserved in the written word like the six volumes of the Carmina Gadelica. So I humbly bow before the several purposes of such pedigrees. Lol.


    Glory to thee,
    Thou glorious sun.
    Glory to thee, thou sun,
    Face of the God of life.


    Do you hear the echo of anamchara in the Sanskrit word "Brahmacharya"? In 1783 Sir William Jones did. Can this little bit be found in the library of Stanford?

    There are other congruencies that lead to clues you would find useful in your perusal...such as the Greek word for "fish" (ikhthus) and the Maori usage (ika): in Maori mythology, the North Island of New Zealand is Te Ika a Maui -- the fish of Maui. What is this? It is among the remaining evidence for global cataclysm...if you look some 12,000 years back. Sort of like the 13% ancient Irish genetics of a 12,000 years ago type in north eastern native americans that parallels a certain dense layer of dust in the geological record there.

    Cataclysms and the evolution of souls live side by side...have always.


    Self-identity is a miracle, as much or more than consciousness itself.

    Then there are individuals and individualism. Personalism favors inidividualism, so it seems. Look at me father, look at me.

    There is a background potentiality for self, but not just one self.

    Actions need be synchronized. There need also be a systemic curtailment of omniscience. (this curtailment is through limitations on memory in the physical form)

    In particular is Plato's good personal or not? Plato supposed it was not. I'm now looking for good discussion of the Good, particularly about its alleged impersonal aspect. (the American founders assumed it was personal, "Pursuit of Happiness" is capable of variation between individuals they supposed, but then this individualism in the collective is a Celtic notion; a culdean notion, rather forgotten by their heirs who suffer an identity crisis these days.)

    For Plotinus, the One is transpersonal. (ah! now we're gettin somewhere!)

    (Pelagianism: a Celtic Christian/druidic spiritual view)
    1. opposed the idea of predestination (exception: geis)
    2. asserted a strong version of the doctrine of Free Will
    3. accused Augustine of Hippo & others of denying the need for divine aid in performing good works
    4. was declared a heretic by the Council of Carthage
    5. fluent in Greek, Latin, and Theology
    6. practiced Asceticism - a lifestyle characterised by abstinence from worldly pleasures for the purpose of pursuing spiritual goals
    7. believed original sin did not taint human nature and that mortal will is still capable of choosing good or evil without special Divine aid.
    8. taught the human will as created with its abilities by God was sufficient to live a sinless life although he believed that God's grace assisted every good work.
    9. comes to be associated with the view human beings can earn salvation by their own efforts (protestantism/druidic)

    (Celtic Christians/Drui are also alleged to be Essenes who escaped the middle east; carried with them secret sacred knowledge; believed in reincarnation and the evolving soul...scholars don't allow for a more ancient origin and don't acknowledge that the Pharohs often called for their council recognizing their scholarship as far more ancient and of value as a world view.)

    BINGO: But I had not contemplated any return to the primordial potentiality. Maybe that was an error. Perhaps I should imbue potentiality with value. With eternality, logical succession need not imply the possibility of retracing the logic, in some sort of quasi-temporal fashion, by the individual. It would be the ultimate recycling of the self. (not recycling -- evolution)

    Outside of that temporal process, there still exists the cosmic self and potentiality. Perhaps my concern with recognizing the non-temporality of the primordial potentiality was that it would have the proclivity to spawn other worlds. If this world arises in a depedent co-origination, why not others?

    Once the cosmic self arises out of the potentiality, can it cease to exist, even in a non-temoral, logical sense? Has it not somehow 'saturated', or simply realized, the potentiality? Can it be unrealized? Does potentiality retain this ultimate power..... this ultimate potency? Somehow, the cosmic self cannot be duplicated. That's what Creation is about. Creation does saturate the primordial potential.

    (It's the other way around...potential saturates Creation)

    REVERB: Once the cosmic self arises out of the potentiality, can it cease to exist, even in a non-temoral, logical sense? Has it not somehow 'saturated', or simply realized, the potentiality? Can it be unrealized? Does potentiality retain this ultimate power..... this ultimate potency?

    (The ability of the container to realize the saturation can be damaged; the soul construct can be destroyed...I mentioned this to you once before...and I also said the ancients/non-terrestrials/UTH among some of the Others, consider this to be a "high-crime".

    FUNVAX
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAn38Z4Aweg

    (metabunk.org calls this hoax, dismissing a considerable number of hints in the deepweb that says otherwise.)

    That does not prevent an individual manifestation of the soul from experiencing the cosmic potency. God cannot? There is this limit on God's potency? Perhaps. Cetainly, the theists do not envision it! Well, God can experience the primordial potency vicariously, through us. But how can this raw potency be experienced w/o some notion of a subject to do the experiencing?

    (this is why a race suiciding itself creates a massive wave of disturbance in the in the co-origination, creating a perceivable highly obvious backlash in the potency; the potentialitiy)

    I think I'm running out of options wrt the Sarfatti list, in answer to a question posed by Ron this morning. I can't honestly say that his explicit support on the list would fundamentally alter the equation. The various interests will continue to talk past each other, ad-infintum. Posing as the gorilla in the wings will only invite a stoney silence. They have no measuring stick with which to make sense of the radical departures I propose, regardless of any urgency. The urgency will only produce a general paralysis.

    There is no logical bridge between Deepak and Jack. Brian is all too aware of his marginal satus vis-a-vis the mainstream.

    (your greatest issue is that the list does not understand what you want from them. You are buzz in their background. Their value system is based on an academic feudalism to which they religiously adhere. Notice;

    Psychologically they were better equipped than many others for such a bleak concept of their vocation, having been reared in a land where the fostering of children (establishment schools), physical alienation from their parents, was normal practice...they are the pueri Patricii of the modern world. IN this sense modern academia is a closed monastery, practicing aestheticism of the mind; a product of social and religious processes. For monks of academia the peregrinatio's of their vocations mean venturing no further than some slightly unfamiliar place in their native intellectual land. This is my experience among them, investing time to observe their choices, words, and behavior in their own habitat of self-limited anchor-holds. I ask have they lost the ability to evolve? Have they gone so far to wipe the ability to compromise their indentured enculturation? Look at Depaks fatalism for example. He as an academic holds direct responsibility for the fertility of the mind; to be an active presence in the collective imagination...yet see how he speaks in the list! Where is the accomodation of potentiality?)

    Put the ships over the cities, they said...

    ADDINAL: All the reports of anomalous things like remote viewing, precognition, psychokinesis... ‎these may be the tip of the iceberg and humanity may well be getting set up for another evolutionary leap into something that can handle much larger scales of space and time.

    (BINGO. Improved tools provide access to expansion of perspective. But those tools are earned.)


    QUOTE: On Oct 15, 2015, at 11:26 AM, Deepak Chopra wrote: The extinction of Dinosaurs led to Homo Sapiens . Our extinction could lead to a superior species ?

    (This is what was said about ETH - ET's concern about Earth and humanity...there are other species in this bio-preserve that have potential for advancement...that if freed from the shadow of mankind who seems too self-centered to shelter and mentor any such beings toward that end at this time, may rise in our stead. The story that may have been told to Deepak if he were party to that information, may have been that the OTHERS deemed no intervention due to that possibility; that potentiality...that humanity wrt survival as a specie is on their own and that the prospects against extinction are not good. To this might be added, "unless mankind can make an evolutionary leap that provides that capacity. I ask, how can those who believe the 'humane' thing to do is to commit the general population to suicide outside of their own volition; how can they know that the capacity has not already been embued in that population and that the potentiality was not recognized by the Ancients of the past? They cannot...their history is less than 12,000 years old. And they adhere or at least profess the religion of skepticism...of all that does not suit their purposes to be pseudoscience. They know not the value of the people...they - authoritarians in high places - know even less of Synchronicity. But they will tell you they do!)

    i.e. Fatalism in action:

    From: Deepak Chopra
    Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:17 AM
    To: Robert Addinall; Dan Smith; Anthony M Amadori
    Cc: .......
    Subject: Re: What we all believe in common..... the big T!

    Perhaps the human species is an experiment in Cosmic Mind --an experiment that seemed interesting at first but now considered one that did not work ?

    End quote.

    (need I say more on that?)

    Cy upending the message in the bottle in the middle of the room for all the world to see...The big man in the great dark suit with despair so intense it was palatable said, help them remember who they ARE!

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    Post by GSB/SSR Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:52 am

    Op-ed in Russia Today:

    'America is a bomb waiting to explode'

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/318986-america-bomb-society-crisis/


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    Post by Cyrellys Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:37 am

    GSB/SSR wrote:Op-ed in Russia Today:

    'America is a bomb waiting to explode'

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/318986-america-bomb-society-crisis/




    http://americac2c.com/forum/topics/iran-posts-video-of-secret-underground-military-base-filled-with-?xg_source=msg_mes_network

    http://allnewspipeline.com/Beyond_Creepy_Black_Death_Decoding_Strange_CD.php

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/msf-potential-evidence-was-destroyed-vehicle-kunduz-hospital-n445736

    Top theoretical physicist Kaku: ‘Colossal space object, possible alien superstructure, civilization, found 1,500 light-years from Earth’
    https://www.intellihub.com/top-theoretical-physicist-kaku-colossal-space-object-possible-alien-superstructure-civilization-found-1500-light-years-from-earth/

    Russia has made capturing Jihadi John a priority because the high profile ISIS executioner would be a huge propaganda coup, say US officials http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3278907/Russia-capturing-Jihadi-John-priority-high-profile-ISIS-executioner-huge-propaganda-coup-say-officials.html

    Iraq shows off airstrike by new Chinese-made combat drone (VIDEO) https://www.rt.com/news/318892-chinese-drone-iraq-airstrike/

    10,000 refugees entered Macedonia in 24h http://www.worldbulletin.net/headlines/165421/10000-refugees-entered-macedonia-in-24h

    Revolutionary ‘Psychic Robot’ Knows What You’re Doing Before You Do :Robots that can read minds: sounds like we’re well on our way to cyborg world domination, right? http://sputniknews.com/science/20151016/1028598826/psychic-robot-invention.html

    Turkey threatens to SHOOT DOWN Putin's planes as it drags West closer to war with Russia TURKEY'S Prime Minister has risked launching World War 3 between the West and Russia after threatening to SHOOT DOWN Putin's war planes in the country's air space. http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/612828/Turkey-threatens-shoot-down-Putin-s-planes-drags-West-war-Russia

    Scientists at Large Hadron Collider hope to make contact with PARALLEL UNIVERSE in days SCIENTISTS conducting a mindbending experiment at the Large Hadron Collider next week hope to connect with a PARALLEL UNIVERSE outside of our own. http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/565315/Scientists-at-Large-Hadron-Collider-hope-to-make-contact-with-PARALLEL-UNIVERSE-in-days

    Cops are asking Ancestry.com and 23andMe for their customers’ DNA http://fusion.net/story/215204/law-enforcement-agencies-are-asking-ancestry-com-and-23andme-for-their-customers-dna/

    Google, the NSA & DHS are creating a global DNA database: THE FALLEN ANGELS WANT THEIR GENETIC SEED LOCATED AND IDENTIFIED-THEY SEEK THE UTTER DESTRUCTION OF THE SEED OF ADAM,AND THEIR CHILDREN CLONED BACK INTO EXISTENCE http://massprivatei.blogspot.com/2015/10/google-nsa-dhs-are-creating-global-dna.html

    Handheld DNA reader revolutionary and democratising, say scientists: designed to analyse DNA to help track disease outbreaks, check food and offer ‘the democratisation of sequencing’ GUESS WHAT THEY ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR? http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/oct/15/handheld-dna-reader-revolutionary-and-democratising-say-scientists

    U.S. Gun Maker Creates 'Crusader' Rifle That ISIS 'Can't Touch' AR-15 comes with Bible verse and Knight's Templar Cross etching; Council on American-Islamic Relations of Florida condemns the rifle. http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.674630

    Obama: Christians threaten nation;SO THIS ENTITY, WHO IS A MUSLIM, IS SETTING THE CHRISTIANS UP AS ENEMIES OF THE STATE, FOR TERMINATION -MEANWHILE HE DOES NOTHING ABOUT TERRORISTS FLOODING THE NATION! http://www.onenewsnow.com/perspectives/bryan-fischer/2015/10/16/obama-christians-threaten-nation?utm_source=OneNewsNow&utm_medium=email&utm_term=16782242&utm_content=457244438475&utm_campaign=21942

    Did parallel universe open up? Hundreds see 'floating city' filmed in skies above China http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/612531/Did-parallel-universe-open-up-Hundreds-see-floating

    Cash Ban: Greeks Face 'Permanent Cash Controls and Compulsory Use of Plastic Money' http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/cash-ban-greeks-face-permanent-cash-controls-and-compulsory-use-of-plastic-money_10142015

    Measles outbreak traced back to VACCINATED woman who spread the disease http://www.naturalnews.com/051587_measles_outbreak_vaccines_spreading_disease.html

    Massive US Senate Document On National And Global Weather Modification http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/massive-us-senate-document-on-national-and-global-weather-modification/

    GRAHAM HANCOCK ANCIENT & FUTURE CATACLYSM – THE GREAT RETURN OF THE COMET! DARK JOURNALIST http://investmentwatchblog.com/graham-hancock-ancient-future-cataclysm-the-great-return-of-the-comet-dark-journalist/

    US spy chiefs hunt the new Snowden: Whistleblower leaks top secret drone assassination program that reveals how 90% of people killed in one 5-month spree WEREN'T targeted http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3274583/US-spy-chiefs-hunt-new-Snowden-Whistleblower-leaks-secret-drone-assassination-program-reveals-Obama-authorizies-kill.html

    Scientists Claim Zapping Brains with Magnets Can Treat Belief in God https://stream.org/scientists-claim-zapping-brains-with-magnets-can-treat-belief-in-god/

    Illinois To Delay Pension Payments Amid Budget Woes: 'For All Intents And Purposes, We Are Out Of Money Now' http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-14/illinois-delay-pension-payments-amid-budget-woes

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3269082/ISIS-crucifies-beheads-trafficker-tried-help-people-escape-terror-group.html


    QUOTE:
    So now we know, if there is no power most places won't sell you the goods if they have them or not. Desperate people act desperately and even if you are willing to pay they won't let you.

    Hey Guys..I am writing to you today because I just had an experience a few hours ago that I never imagined in my life. Let me explain...We are having a funeral tomorrow at Church, we are serving a meal after the service. I went down to the Fellowship hall with Jim to set some things so it would be easier tomorrow. I had to prepare the ham and bake beans, I noticed we needed pineapple cherries and syrup. So Jim and I took off to Mountain City TN as we were driving towards Save A Lot I noticed a traffic light out, other that everything else appeared normal. When Jim dropped me off at Save A Lot I asked him to go across the street to McDonalds and pick up some burgers for Joe and his Boss. As I approached the sliding doors of the store they did not open I noticed the store looked very dark, like it was closed. A cashier opened the door by hand, I asked what happened, we lost power..I am thinking to myself One Second After...but this is worse...
    I saw David the manager and said I only needed 3 items, he said the registers will not work. As he went into his office trying to call the power company I turned to the cashier and said can't you write down what I bought, and look the total up on the tax chart, then I can write the check and you guys can run it through the registers later she shrugged... I left thinking if there is an EMP they won't sell you any food can goods whatever because the register doesn't work..OMG..So I get to the car I told Jim what happened he said he could not buy the burgers I said why the lights are on over there they said their computerized registers were down..I looked at him and said are you kidding me they rather throw the food out then run a tab...OMG I said to him , so if there is no power most places won't sell you the goods because they either can't do the math,or have inventory issues, kiss EBT good bye..How Nuts is this they will not write you a physical receipt and take exact change or a check. Now I can understand not taking a check from someone you do not know but not from a regular costumer.Ya know guys I use to sell my old comic books for 1 cent to 5 cents I never needed a computer for that or to have any yard sale, or Bizarre or Fairs at schools a pen and paper and an old cigar box worked just fine. So we went to Food Country USA, purchased what I needed the lights kept flickering while I was in the store...I got done ASAP...Jim and I discussed how ridiculous the businesses affected acted.No common sense.. So now we know, if there is no power most places won't sell you the goods if they have them or not. Desperate people act desperately and even if you are willing to pay they won't let you.. I ask you what is wrong with this picture, you just can't make this crap up..By the way Jim now wants to read One Second After . Now the Farm Supply will be able to sell you items if they are marked, if not it may take awhile to look up the paper inventory, not sure how that would work in an emergency situation...What a nightmare....Joy

    Oct 19, 2015
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    CONSIDER, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SSRI’S AND OTHER ANTI-DEPRESSION DRUGS ARE CUT OFF ALSO-'ZOMBIE NATION' COME TO MIND, AND HAS THIS BEEN THE PLAN ALL ALONG?

    Hello Steve,

    I went to CVS on Friday to pick-up my 10mg Zolpidem (generic Ambien) refill. They didn’t have it and said the manufacturer is not making it any more. What do you mean, I asked? They are not manufacturing it at this time, everyone is on back order and they cannot get their orders filled. I managed to get it filled with double 5mg pills.

    I don’t know the extent of this problem. I do know that for those of us with severe insomnia (probably related to the chemtrails, fluoride, heavy metals, GMO, etc), we get very irritable with no sleep. This just feels like a puzzle piece in a bigger Illuminati New World Order rollout plan for maximum chaos when the civil unrest starts here in the US.

    I thank the Lord often for waking me up to see the truth outside the box and prepare for what comes. I have asked many times why he does not wake up everyone to what is happening. He keeps giving me the same answer: For some of us, he is preparing us for a long term plan, for many others, it is a short term plan. Then I get sad while thinking of the beheadings & torture of Christians in the middle east and the women raped in slavery and traded to a new Muslim man each month. I watch our Muslim president flooding our country with Muslims and I know they are coming for us next. Then I go to my mega church with thousands of other Christians where they never discuss world events as it might offend someone. I go home from Church each Sunday with sadness, knowing that most of them will be in that short term plan because the Church is not preparing its people for the days of darkness that we have just entered.

    Steve, I pray often for all of the watchmen’s safety as you bring us the truth of the times we live in and what approaches. I thank you for your sacrifices and look forward to reading your website daily and listening to your talk shows. PRESTON

    Oct 17, 2015
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    I ASKED A HIGH UP IN HOMELAND SECURITY HIS TAKE ON THE ESCALATING SITUATION IN THE MIDEAST

    If this war starts, DHS is going to attach itself to the military, If this starts then we may know why all those MRAPs have been given to all these local town police departments and such. Can you imagine the total anarchy that we are facing at any moment? One missle loosed, one US,NATO, OR EU plane shot down..and the armies will be raised and the march is on for Damascus and then the Kremlin. The White House would be obliterated by tactical nukes or the ICBMs. Hell is literally going to break loose. Cling to your bibles America and find God. For no amount of munitions and arms can prevent this judgement.SQ: I ASKED THIS BROTHER WHEN HE THOUGHT THE FIREWORKS AND WW3 WOULD GET UNDER WAY ...AND HIS RESPONSE IS HE'S AFRAID IT HAS ALREADY STARTED

    Oct 13, 2015
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    Post by dan Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:06 am

    From: Dan
    Date: October 20, 2015 at 7:01:54 AM CDT
    To: "John
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    Subject: Re: Another think coming..... MoAPS!

    John,

    Yes, there is an 'impedance' mismatch here.......

    There may be some rather strange stuff going on back here, in DC. (I'm actually in Chicago right now. I may be headed back home or out to SF to a reunion.)

    It's hard to describe this 'stuff' to anyone who has not been mixed up with it for at least a decade or two. But here goes, anyway.......

    There are two meanings of 'apocalypse', we're dealing with both of them. Hopefully, we're going to be able to use the original meaning to counteract the more familiar one. The original meaning was just the MoAPS, which we use to counteract the catastrophe that some feel may lie in the not so distant future.

    What does metaphysics have to do with either kind of apocalypse? Possibly everything.

    If you like to be more technical, we're actually talking eschatology. Eschatology was a term that I introduced to Ron, 24 years ago, when he was still a junior officer. John has known Ron (Footmann) since college.

    Now, here's a problem, right here. I have almost no idea what any of you may know of this 'political' background. I have no idea how many of you have similar connections. Some of you do, I know. Please feel free to chime in........

    (Debbie and I are taking a brief respite in Chicago. She from caring for an ailing parent. I may head next to SF for a 50th reunion, and to catch up with the North Beach contingent. My internet time will be correspondingly sporadic for the next several days.)


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    On Oct 19, 2015, at 5:51 PM, John wrote:

    It seems some force may be pushing the world towards the brink, and although I am not sure what the vectors are all about, I do understand that Hilary staying in the race may be an indicator that our situation is worse than anticipated. We need to get through December before thinking too much about September, so I am signing up for an adventure with the Princess into uncharted waters. We are all going to take a hard look at options, with the Footman finally beginning to focus on Dan's gambit after decades of neglect. I understand one may not return, but I am not the least bit worried. I will be in charge of security, so the bird will be in my hand.
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    Post by dan Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:10 pm

    From: Dan
    Date: October 21, 2015 at 1:02:07 PM CDT
    To: "John S
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    Subject: Re: Another think coming..... MoAPS!

    I did get one response, and that was a prvt one from Jack, asking me to make good on my IOU to him for 25K, from two years ago.

    Let's try this again.........

    This is a continuing 'experiment', from at least 1976 when I became sort of an experiencer and sort of 'born-again'. For the purposes of this list, I should stress that the 'scare-quote' is being used quite deliberately. My most recent arrest was at an evangelical church.

    Oh, dear....... I'm already running out of time again. I'm visiting Chicago, seeing plays and museums with Debbie. Tomorrow, instead of heading back to Baltimore with Debbie, I just got reservations to continue on to Stanford for my 50th, and then see Paul Z in North Beach. Jack is refusing to see me, due to financial arrears.

    No, I have an extra half-hour......

    Steve Hurlbut is my room-mate from Stanford, whom I had not spoken with in 50 yr, until yesterday. We were both in physics.

    I am stepping up the save-the-world 'game' since Ron told me, last week, that Aliyah would be advising Central Command on strategy wrt several challenges they are facing, particularly in the mideast, and particularly considering that they might be looking for an exit strategy. Oh, yes, I'm supposed to be advising the Princess.

    Wait, you say, why is it Ron's wife who is doing the advising? Well, that is just one of many irregularities that I've witnessed wrt him, over the past 24 years. Is any of it true? I'd probably be about the last person you'd want to ask. I've just been playing along, for all these years, and blogging about it. I'm probably too old, now, to learn any other tricks.

    I can only assume that, if this game has any merit, it increases the probability of the BPWH/SWH/CTC (4M/K/SoT/X2) of being in the right ball-park. Yes? No? Anyone care to give me odds?

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    Post by dan Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:04 am

    Testing Deborah Nash -- website posting

    Dan has asked me to help out with his postings and with the website dialogue. I'm glad to do so and looking forward to the online conversations with all of the members of the group.
    dsn

    ....Dan is currently in North Beach CA at the Cafe Trieste. Quite an interesting setting for philosophical conversations, it seems. Reserved "Philosophers' Table" -- maybe the ghost of "Jean-Paul" will appear?
    To visit this cafe, go to coffee.caffetrieste.com


    xxx



    1pm ----------

    This is Dan interjecting with a cut and paste operation that is flaky, at best, on OM.....

    From: Dan
    Date: October 28, 2015 at 12:44:00 PM PDT
    To: Bill L
    Cc: others .........
    Subject: Hello from the Cafe Trieste......

    http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/economist-2015-cover-filled-cryptic-symbols-dire-predictions/

    Hmmm........ An olde but goodie...... It is the Hong Kong edition of the Economist cover, Jan 2015. It may be a clue to the '32 Vectors' that Ron has been referring to.


    This is a slow process, please bear with us.........

    I'm adding names to list, and I apologize for any duplicates etc..........

    Please, use this list sparingly........



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    Post by GSB/SSR Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:03 pm

    Tiger cage meetup?

    “Tenet charged us to piss off senior analysts. If we weren’t doing that, we weren’t doing our job.”

    Inside the CIA Red Cell
    How an experimental unit transformed the intelligence community.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/10/30/inside-the-cia-red-cell-micah-zenko-red-team-intelligence/

    The following morning [after 9/11/2001], Miscik and two senior analysts formed the CIA’s Red Cell, which has been a semi-independent unit within the agency ever since. It is devoted to “alternative analysis,” which includes techniques like “what ifs,” Team A/Team B exercises, and premortem analysis, all of which are used to identify holes in a plan, model an adversary to understand their weaknesses, or consider all of the conceivable ways a plan can fail beforehand. The term “Red Cell” was chosen by Tenet personally; he believed it sounded alluring and conspiratorial ... Roughly 75 percent of its work is self-tasked and based upon analysts watching the calendar of upcoming events, scanning Twitter, blogs, and op-eds, or open-endedly brainstorming topics with colleagues and invited outsiders from the intelligence community and other government agencies, policy wonks, or academics.



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    Post by Foot Mann Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:08 pm

    Dan will be returning soon from SF where he was on an adventure.
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    Post by dan Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:18 am

    I don't think that it was just a stunt that 'we' pulled, a couple of miles off the GGB.  There was something going on, out there and ashore.  

    I think we have established that this StW operation is bi-coastal.  On the east coast we are bull-wrestling, but can't find the horns.  On the west coast we are bull-riding.  Off the GGB we were just plain surfing.

    I think that the cover of the Economist http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/economist-2015-cover-filled-cryptic-symbols-dire-predictions/ does represent the 32 Vectors that we have been hearing about.  

    I think that the Princess does indeed intend to address the 'sociologists' at CentCom.  

    After SF, I'm beginning to take this StW stuff a bit more seriously.  I'm beginning to see how it might work, as a 'bi-coastal' cooperation.  Seeing is believing.  

    Yes, Gary, I think that the Red Cell may have some validity.  


    10:50------------------

    Then there is this....... http://allnewspipeline.com/Beyond_Creepy_Black_Death_Decoding_Strange_CD.php


    In a conversation earlier this am, Ron is not so vehemently denying that he might have played some role in the SF caper.

    Debbie wonders what I would do, if Ron suggested I go over Niagra Falls.  It was not like that.  It was just that he played a significant role in an ongoing series of events.  I did not even communicate with him on Halloween.  There was a whole series of continuing events on that day, that lead me, step by step, through the process.  I wittingly/willingly went along with the flow.  It was rather like the 5-day sequence of events in the Spring of '91 that set up my rendezvous with Ron in the Fall...... just more condensed.

    Perhaps I should have felt at risk, but, rather, I felt totally protected.  Everything just seemed to go very smoothly, in a 'logical' sequence, even in the 'hospital'.  


    Then there is the matter of the election and the September Surprise.......

    I'll have to say that Ron still thinks Hillary is quite vulnerable, even though Biden has dropped out, instead of her.  On the Republican side, there is some general speculation that Jeb might have more staying power than the rest of the field, and, ultimately, might be able to take advantage of those vulnerabilities in the general election.  

    You may recall that there was the suggestion, back when, that we meet with his brother, when he first ran, but nothing came of it.  Perhaps we will see a reprise of that suggestion.  Maybe I should sound out my sister, albeit in a very circumspect manner.  Maybe all of this could transpire with R&D staying below the radar.  That would certainly be the optimal course, I would imagine.  This would be one way to follow up, and pre-empt any negative surpise, such as the foreseen grid-lock.


    noon----------

    Ron checked to see if I were still interested in joining the Falun Gong.  We had explored that option many years ago, but nothing materialized.  Now, it might be different....... more things seem possible.... and time is shorter, evidently.  

    Steve H wants to speak with me about the trinity, but he was on the phone with someone from NYC.  


    BTW, if you wish to know who is playing along, you, very politely, ask if they are a sleeping dog.  The one correct answer is...... not if the cat scratches.  This code has some reference to the incident at R&A's with my face getting in the way of Baby the cat's being spooked by Rosie the rabbit, at around 3am, while we were sleeping on the living-room floor.  

    This above-top-secret code was relayed to me by the three 'members' of the harbor police squad that rescued me from the Pacific, and stood with me in the Coast Guard lobby, while the others were busying themselves inside, except when one of the others would step into the lobby to relay messages and/or receive instructions from my 'guards'.  Conveniently, these three, at least, turned out to also be FoR's.  We had a jolly time swapping Ron stories, while the more official business proceeded on, around us.  So it goes...... it's a small world, after all, it seems.  


    2pm-----------

    Ron makes specific suggestions, and then I do what I can to stay ahead of the curve, or otherwise expedite the process, always keeping an eye on the inevitable end-game, especially for transition elements to maintain as much continuity as possible.  Keeping the electricity flowing will, of course, be crucial.  Only much further down the road will our energy needs be transformed/transmorigfied, as we move past the Omega......


    4:30------------

    I had a conversation with my college roommate.  His email to me about the reunion is what triggered my leaving Debbie in Chicago, returning home to tend after her frail, demanding father, while I ventured out to my 50th reunion.  

    He understands my general situation with R&A, GFC, etc.  He is brave and kind enough to continue talking to me, despite all of the above.  But, other than his personal connection to me, he wants, in no way, to be assocated with any of my associates.  He became quite cross with me when I included him on one of the email lists.  

    We are both born-again Xtians, on the same year, about 15 years after we last conversed in college.  We had gone our separate ways, since college.  He was the only one, out of a class of 800, to mention his faith journey in the class directory.  

    Nevertheless we have diamertically opposed views concerning the Endtimes and Apocatastasis, and, especially, our relation with God.  

    It occurs to me that Steve and John are the only xtians with whom I have friendly relations.  It occurs to me, even further that John was Ron's main college buddy, but not his roommate, as was Steve, mine.  

    Ron reestablished his relation with John several years ago.  Ron was partly responsible for bringing John over to catholicism, back when they first knew each other.  But both very much play .down that curious fact.  

    R&A married in a mosque, with me as their best man, but they dropped out of it after about three months.

    Actually, we are assembling quite the motley crew of xtians, if you add Bridgid and a couple of others whose names escape me, right now.



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    Post by Cyrellys Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:09 pm

    Hi Dan & Deborah,

    In response to your email to me, I'm afraid I'm out of the loop on the SF hijinx. I have not been on any of Dan's 'lists' here lately so I am in need of a translation of your description above, including on the acronyms.

    The Economist 2015 cover has what could be construed as a few of the 'vectors' but is far from a comprehensive list. I'd rather call it a view point, same as the author of the article did. It represents what may be one group's view of its proverbial cobweb. It's a bit myopic.

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    Post by Cyrellys Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:39 pm

    ...on the problem of the evolving world order, the so-called elites seem to be marginalizing themselves. They've created situations deliberately, that seem to be designed to degenerate into utter chaos that does not resemble any order by anyone. They seem to be on the verge of 'checking out' and leaving a salted wasteland in their wake.

    Paul Begley's site, "Word On The Street" US SPEC Ops Firefight Russians In Syria "Unconfirmed"
    https://youtu.be/2tuEw6HGors

    'Russians were supposed to be our friends'
    https://youtu.be/7iVqOBfS53Q
    November 5, 2015
    Congressman Tells Shocking Truth: 'Now It's Totally Gone To Hell' - Warns 'Our Worst Nightmare' May By Stefan Stanford - All News Pipeline - Live Free Or Die
    Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher of California has a few minutes to go head to head with the US State Dept's Ambassador Anne Patterson over Syria, Russia and the Middle East as seen in the 1st video below and delivers a powerful message that Russia, Washington DC and America needs to hear. The "Russians were supposed to be our friends and we gave them hostilities" and then quite bluntly, "now it's totally gone to hell." Telling us that 5 years ago, Russian President Vladimir Putin tried to work out a compromise with the US over the situation in Syria, Rohrabacher deserves praise for telling Patterson our govts policy in Syria has caused our nation great harm and tells us that he believes that it is our hostility towards Russia that is preventing the world from coming together to work out a more stable policy for the entire Middle East.

    The Hungarian PM is hotter than rocket fuel over what's happening in Europe right now. Too bad a certain gentleman at IFPA seems off the map at the moment. I'd like to hear what he has to say on the situation over there at the moment. "VIDEO: HUNGARIAN PM CALLS MIGRANT INFLUX A 'TREASONOUS CONSPIRACY TO MARGINALISE NATION STATES' 'A deliberate conceptual project, which could be described as left-wing" http://www.infowars.com/video-hungarian-pm-calls-migrant-influx-a-treasonous-conspiracy-to-marginalise-nation-states/

    and then there's

    U.S. Gov Plans For 'Worst Case Scenario' EMP From Solar Event - Lights Out! :It really doesn't matter whether and EMP comes from a terrorist attack or a natural solar event, when it hits.... it is lights out. Are you prepared?

    or

    The White House Is Preparing for a Chinese EMP Attack :Declassified Intelligence Reports Reveal the Chinese First Strike EMP Option

    I got this push-me-pull-u imagery going in my head here...that looks like the blank screen Nasa gave: NASA ISS Cuts Public Feed After Locking On To 'Glowing UFO' - What Are They Hiding? http://allnewspipeline.com/NASA_Cuts_Feed_Glowing_UFO.php

    Is summer of 2017 still on the table?

    Maybe not...

    Forget the Black Widow, these cobwebs are much more deadly! Military scientists spray spider webs with Ebola and the PLAGUE: THIS EXPLAINS SPIDERWEB FILAMENTS FALLING OUT OF CHEMTRAILS RESIDUE ACROSS THE U.S.SEE MY ALERTS http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3297219/EBOLA-PLAGUE-sprayed-spider-webs-UK-MoD.html

    In respect to all these unacknowledged vectors, and others like them to call it an evolving world order is almost funny.

    I suppose I could break out all the gov docs on conquest by colonization but I know I've mentioned them here in the past or on my own pages...

    IT BEGINS: HAMTRAMCK FIRST AMERICAN CITY TO ELECT A MUSLIM-MAJORITY COUNCIL Hamtramck City Council in Michigan has done something never before achieved in the 239 years of the American nation. They have elected a Muslim-majority City http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/it-begins-hamtramck-first-american-city-to-elect-a-muslim-majority-council/

    ...meanwhile this land-sovereign is moving to affirm the militia system and am forwarding the words of one of Earths early Liberty Kings to a 'gathering of good people', with whom belongs the legacy of the Aes Dana, for it is by the establishment of the three lights that illuminate every darkness: truth, nature, knowledge that a deep water ship is restored. What should be of most remark here is the hour in which it becomes necessity for a land-sovereign to act.

    It is not prophetic sight that is necessary to remark upon the evolution of the world order, but rather interconnection. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see. It does however sometimes take the unusual to act. Dan is well versed in knowing this.

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    Post by dan Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:16 pm

    What follows is an excerpt from a revised version, sent out a couple of hours ago to a blind list, of the original, Halloween edition, of the Princess Chronicles, that has been published monthly, for several years.  This is the first time that such sinister sounding language has been used........

    Cruise to the Source. All members of the Court are busy preparing for an upcoming Cruise to the Source. Sometime during the middle of the night, the Footman will scoop up Kashmir and transport her along with the Princess to an airstrip in Northern Virginia from which they will depart on the adventure. Others will arrive at the base of central command in Florida, and following a short briefing by the Princess, all will depart aboard a ship towards the Source. It will be a long and difficult passage, but the Princess will be escorted by her closest friends, their trust and loyalty keeping the crew calm as they approach the Source. They must get through December to prepare for September. One may not return, but without the risk, no pathway would open to the New World.


    The plot does thicken.  It may all be a joke, or it may _not_ all be a joke.  Ron's end of the 24 year R&D show may be emerging, now, with some alacrity.  Me?  I'm just Chicken Little...... WYSIWYG. As for my role, I'm the innocent bystander who, 24 years ago, volunteered for a critical mission........  Looks like the mission is about to be launched.  

    The SF caper/hijinks may have been a test cruise.  I managed to make it back to shore, with a little help.  The December cruise may have a slightly different outcome.  What advice do they give to the Army troops........ be careful what you volunteer for........!!



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    Post by Cyrellys Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:39 am

    yes interesting that R&A take cruises at every window of 'opportunity'.


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    "Chemtrail experts are urging anyone with heavy chemtrail traffic get a heavy metal bloodtest" source withheld


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    Ok, here's the deal.........

    We need to design business cards for all intereseted parties to hand out, more or less, everywhere and at and at any time.

    We will have a contest to design such a universal business/greeting card.  It would have a distinctive, but universal design.  The card would be accompanied by a personalised hand stamp.

    No, that is too difficult. It would, at first be a smart phone app that would work like the above b/g card, be more readily distributed. The app would explain ways to obtain and hand out pads of paper to be given to those w/o smart phones.

    This would be the ultimate pyramid-scheme, used to promote the BPWH.

    There would also be evolving contests to support this 'pyramid-scheme'.

    The main problem would be to design the appropriate consensus-building and coordination schemes to accompany the process.

    How can an appropriate incentive/recognition scheme be maintained throughout?


    3:15am est -------

    I have been attempting such a scheme all along, at least for the last several decades. The 'phone app' idea seems to be suggestive in this regard..... in finally bringing this continuing effort to its proper fruition. That is, in bringing to the BPWH its own appropriate distribution scheme.



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    Ok, let's elaborate on this scheme..........

    First and foremost, this hypocritical scheme is an admission of near defeat for all the previous attempts.

    We need the ultimate holistic app.




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    Cyrellys wrote:yes interesting that R&A take cruises at every window of 'opportunity'.

    Indeed, much of what matters most to the Princess is below the ocean.
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    Foot Mann wrote:
    Cyrellys wrote:yes interesting that R&A take cruises at every window of 'opportunity'.

    Indeed, much of what matters most to the Princess is below the ocean.


    Yes I had heard we were building underwater bases next to the ET ones in facilitation of interaction.

    If your Princess should bump into a tall youngster by the name of Jescarat, please relay I said, "Sithchain, anam charan."

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    Cyrellys to Sarfatii List wrote:
    wrt Aikido, the Bohm Field and propulsion, the definition Jack provides on Aikido (quote: translated as "the way of unifying (with) life energy"[1] or as "the way of harmonious spirit."[2]) is the same as the ancient Drui approach to the psychokinetic link between consciousness and physical application.  We call it the pursuit of All Being which is defined as a "communion with all things".  It is a psychic state of mind but without the martial arts, and is a remnant of the prior tech civ.  The drui who practice(d) it didn't require martial arts to wage war because it can be wielded as an evolutionary state, a tool and weapon.  It is used to create glamours (shield images), terra-form, operate sky-ships, open locked doors with no accessible locks - i.e. ancient dumbs, etc among other uses.  The prohibition against drui writings was to protect this skill from those who would abuse it.

    It can be further described as a form of multi-plex thinking that holds the entirety of all things in the perceptive realm at the moment of communion which is then directed or imbued with "intent".  The ancients used used this technique for everything from terraforming the plains or "Mags" of ancient Eire such as Mag Femin (Fir Mag Fem) or Mag(h) Tuiread(h) where the children of Danu and children of Domnu (Fomorii /Scythians) faced each other in battle over Bres mac Elatha's tyranny.  It is not the only reference to the ancients technology in use.  In Cormac mac Airt's time his early mistakes included facing Muman (Munster) in battle pitting his drui against the drui/Culdee Mogh Ruith both sides using land crawling battle drones to fight the other.  Mogh Ruith's daughter Tlachtga was the last pilot of the northern sky ships - what the Rama civ called virmana.  An ancient drui with ancient tech engineering/operating skills was called a "slave of the wheel".  The drui were the intellectual class of the ancient celtic world.  They were respected by the Greek philosophers who called them Keltoi, meaning 'the hidden people' a word being cognate with the Old Irish ceilid and modern Irish ceilt "to hide or conceal".  The Romans hated them and concocted a number of excuses to justify their wars of conquest.  Professor Jean Markle, in La Femme Celte(1972) said, "the Druids represented an absolute threat to the Roman State, because their science and philosophy dangerously contradicted Roman orthodoxy.  The Romans were materialistic, the Druids spiritual.  For the Romans the State was a monlithic structure spread over territories deliberately organised into a hierarchy.  With the Druids it was a freely consented moral order with an entirely mythical central idea."  That idea was "HUMAN POTENTIAL".  Sound familiar?  The Romans went as far as banning Drui from citizenship in the empire.  Today we know the empire as one of the early acquisitions of the Illumined.  Again a continuation of the two opposed sides of the ancient world war...same as today.  Deborah will find this information of interest under to her question to me about the 'evolving world order'.

    The drui did not disappear, any more than the Old Irish disappeared.  Nor did their philosophy or scientific approach with a number system based on triparte thinking (numeral 3).  They merged with Christianity to become the culdee/Celtic Christianity.  Thus Aes Dana are referred to by some ancient writers/annalists as Clann Dia.  One of the last bases of the culture was in Fermoy Ireland under the control of the Dubhagain (Scribes of Fermoy), who are descendants of Mogh Ruith.  MR was gifted the lands of Feara Maighe (modern Fermoy) by the Eogannacht of Caisel for his defense of them against the unjust assault launched by a destitute High King Cormac in the early years of his reign for additional taxation/tribute. 

    The Drui were not entirely suppressed by the Romans however.  Peter Berresford Ellis offers Nora Chadwick's contention that they perished by slow strangulation from the superimposition 'of a higher culture on a lower'.  Then continues to mention that Mrs Chadwick, for example, claims that when the inhabitants of the chief town of theAedui in Gaul, that is Bibracte (Mont-Beuvray), were transferred to the new Roman town of Augustodunum (Autun), and their oral Druidical school was replaced by a Romanized university, the Druids were driven into the backwoods where they eventually perished.  On the contrary says Peter, "I believe the Druids remained an adapted to the new culture."  Upon reading this I as an Old Irish, laughed because he's right.  And furthermore Mrs Chadwick is wearing an anglized name that can be found among those who were part of the Laconia Colony of New Hampshire/Maine at Berwick/GreatWorks/Strawberry Banks....very amusing since my ancestors took great pains to muddy the water wrt what happened to our people and where we went, hint hint, lol.  Is she of the acclaimed family into which Rebecca ni-Geibhendach eldest daughter of the great Ambrose, married?  Can't help but wonder if the practice of muddying the water is still going on.  After the 1968 dissolution it really is unnecessary, dearest Ms Chadwick!

    It is common for a culture of intellectuals to produce intellectuals which of course spend considerable volumes of time within the umbrella culture.  Long is the tradition of Ausonius and Delphidius of eloquence and rhetorical practice or as aedituus 'temple guardians', one way of referring to culdean practices.  That being the alternative when not fighting some brand of tyranny in the name of HUMAN POTENTIAL.  The earliest known biography of a British Celtic saint, written about the end of the sixth century AD, A Life of Samson, Samson's teacher the famous Illtyd (c. AD 425-505) was by descent 'a most wise Druid'.  Quote un Quote.  To further illustrate, P.B. Ellis says "the late fourth, early fifth century AD, Celtic Christian theologian Pelagius, of whom Victricius (Roman) so strongly disapproved, was eventually declared a heretic after his conflict with Augustine of Hippo.  Pelagius was accused of attempting to revive Druidic philosophy on Nature and Free Will.  Pelagius' argument was that human beings had free will, while Augustine believed in predestination."  The founders of the USA had access to the personal libraries of the Old Irish of the former Laconia Colony...and notice the concepts on Nature and Free Will as opposed to predestination they espoused.  The Old Irish supported the rebellion against tyranny as is traditional in upholding celtic concepts of justice for which I refer you to the Senchas Mor and the Book of Acaill, along side the post-Cormac placing of the drui in society within the Bretha Crolige defining them as a cainte (satirist) or a diberg (brigand) - a tongue in cheek term outlining their pursuit of happiness involving the upholding of the fight against tyranny and preservation of human potential.  Peter clarifies this by saying "Under ancient Irish law the provision of sick maintenance, including curative treatment, attendance allowance and nourishing food, was made available to all who needed it.  The Druids were 'entitled to sick maintenance (othrus) only at the level of the boaire (literally, a cow-chieftain or local magistrate), 'no matter how great his rank, privilege or other rights'.  It is obvious from this qualification that a Druid still attained a high rank."

    It wasn't until 1951 that the English judicial system finally scrapped the medieval laws (romanized) relating to the prohibition of witchcraft.  The Aes Dana pulled up stakes and evacuated Eire in 1623 in entirety, and built for the world a new nation...which of course has now been encultured once more by Illumined proxies and materialists.

    There is my two cents on the evolving world order.  We're right back to where we started from, BUT courtesy of modern technology, there's no where left to run.  The knowledge regarding psychokinetic link between consciousness and physical world manipulation or flight control of virmana once existed.  That one's for MJ12, lol.  They said the public doesn't deserve disclosure.  Only confirmation.  Ok.  Fine.  There you have it.  No proof of paradigm, but I did give confirmation!  ROFL.  This form of dialog/interaction is absolutely hilarious in my estimation...

    For those of you who are Christian oriented and would like to look at the history through that lens...the line of descent includes:  post-return Tuatha de Dannan, Aes Dana/Drui (Clann Dia), John the Baptist/Syria/Didache/Church of Jerusalem/India Gnosticism-see vaghbata medical books, then to the Quartadecimans/Culdee/Ceili De (Clann Dia/Aes Dana) -- see Valentia Island/Fermoy/Caherlehillian.  The eastern branches included the Drui College at Iona that became the Monks of Iona which morphed again into Cistercians who in turn became the Old Guard Knights Templar (pre-Illumine) which reform in Scotland in the Nautical families who relocated to America and became the founders in opposition to the Illumined controlled British Empire.  They were supported by the Old Irish of the Laconia/Machias Maine http://www.libertyhallmaine.org/battle.php  Their hand in protestantism is said to include the Old Guard Knights Templars, the Lollards, Wickliff, Huss, and Luther.  The libraries are now gone and the Dissolution of 1968 cannot be lifted until the last members of the Moderns have passed.  But you may find what is left in the Celtic Revival out in the Pacific NW, bearing in mind that modern witchcraft and druidism with all its ritual foo-baz et al, are not Old Irish and may be classified as half-baked philosophy in most cases. 

    NOTE:  there is a caveat if you go looking.  In the absence of the Council of the Clanns during their decade long argument with the Moderns (the young adult generation of that period), the vacuum created by their preoccupation and later entire absence (the dissolution being a total dismantling of the Clanns and banning of culture in the youth) gave an opening to an influx of the Christian satanists from California...I have the honor of being a friend with a former law enforcement officer who was neck deep in dealing with the influx of the 1960s - 1970s that resulted in a high volume of bodies in both Oregon and Washington (see Yakima in particular) since Satanists are into human sacrificing.  The Old Irish of the PacNW in their hey-day policed their own and the high crimes LEOs like my friend were accustomed to not having to be involved there.  The found the influx perplexing, and rightly so since I have found the Dissolution was so well done that it is not commonly known in circles such as his where it should have been, so they could fill the vacuum rather than do crisis management after a problem arose.  So you will find evidence of both cultures during that period and please do not get them mixed up.  Aes Dana hate satanists as the despicable excuses for human beings they are and for the Illumined proxies they are with a deep and abiding passion...and that has not nor will ever change.  I say this because I'm getting more than a little tired of correcting the recent Christian notion that ancient celts are satanists or have anything to do with such a practice.  Those belong to the dark side of roman catholicism and should be traced back to the roots of the Illumined in south eastern Scythia/Babylon and the Scythian royal families.

    Jack mentions:  Archimedes Lever.
    Quote:  It’s like Archimedes Lever.  "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world."
    I agree the state called All Being and the skills it unlocks is very much like Archimedes Lever.  Just remember that once the cat is out of the bag, it becomes a sword that can cut both ways...we already have the secret space program out there training dark jedi using these techniques and concepts on consciousness.  I do not currently know of any policing body capable of dealing with such individuals...the Council is a thing of the past...no one I know of out there with the ability and strength to bind the conscious mind of an abuser or tyrant.  If G. Washington's naval white hats still breath air in the wake of the Obummer purges, send them my regards; I would remind them they were tasked by the Aes Dana of 1775 with the protection of the HUMAN POTENTIAL -- it was one of their own who asked me as a five year old to "help them remember who they are".


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    From: Dan
    Date: November 7, 2015 at 9:51:56 PM EST
    To: Paul Z
    Cc: 18 others........
    Subject: California dreaming.........

    It was just a week ago that I was sailing into a fog-shrouded sunset, a couple miles off the Golden Gate Bridge.  The outbound tide was turning the calm pacific swells into regular roller-coasters.  What led up to that point will, I imagine, defy any logical analysis.  It told me, however, something about our world, which I had only dreamt of.

    We've all heard stories like this.  It's one thing to hear about, another thing to be living it.  It could have lasted a million years, as far as I was concerned.  

    But there was a peculiar thing about this bit of dreaming, there were several agencies involved, probably too many for me to count.  It's like Ron asked, many a Moon ago....... how many agencies do you want involved in this little operation?  Hey, the more the merrier....... say I.  

    And everyone was almost jovial, throughout.  I know, if I had been a black teenager, for instance, stealing that sailing dinghy, it would have had a rather different outcome.  

    We did have a merry time, swapping Ron stories, back at the Golden Gate Coast Guard station.  But, no, this wasn't your typical California dream, you know, the one with the chapel in the woods.  

    I had my (hypothetical) faith and my logic.  But his was not just two abstractions, somehow mashed together.  This was a day of total possibility.  This for me, and a few others, may have been our first glimpse of a new world order, of god's kingdom on earth.  What oft maligned phrases these are!

    They have been maligned by fundamentalists, politicians and gun-toting survivalists, alike.  

    What I witnessed was the lamb lying down with the lion, or the 'west-coast' team lying down with the 'east-coast' team.  I might just have been along for the ride.  Was it the hippies vs. the SWAT team?  Well, maybe a little bit.  

    It was our very own, self-admitted, Mata Hari, instructing me on how to start the out-board engine, and then calling the harbor police.  Who was he working for, in the end?  And who asked my long-lost college roommate to invite me out to a reunion in the first place.  I was heading back to Baltimore when he called me at the Chicago planetarium.  

    Maybe it was all the delusion of a stoke-disabled old man, or maybe it was shades of things to come.  Accidental angels passing me off to the Navy Seals.  No, there was no aircraft carrier at the end of this sunset.  There was a padded cell, but my Nurse Ratchet sang a rather different tune.  

    Yes, we spoke of the bull-wrestlers and the bull-riders.  Both are trying to tame the Beast, each in its own way, with flowers and gun-barrels, and whatever the beast may be.......  biblical or secular.  Is there a difference, when both are speaking in apocalyptic terms?


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    Hmmm...Jack Sarfatti taking liberties...but maybe it is necessary.  https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/post-modern-physics-occult-hidden-knowledge-jack-sarfatti?trk=hb_ntf_MEGAPHONE_ARTICLE_POST  A tree shaking sort of thing.

    Thumbs up.


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    From: Dan
    Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2015
    Subject: A vision for a cruise to nowhere.........
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    Ron has put much emphasis on this cruise as a preparation for a disclosure that must come prior to the September surprise, a surprise, which is liable to lead to downward spiral of events on the world stage.

    I am taking the Footmann at his word. Aliyah, though, does not seem to have gotten this 'memo'. When I brought this topic up to her, this morning, she very politely asked my suggestions of participants, for her due consideration. That's not quite how I envision this end of the world cruise being handled.

    Neither she nor the Footmann claim to have any insight into the BPWH. The Footmann claims to have taught philosophy for several years at the agency. She is a student of Rumi.

    None of this, above, sounds promissing. There are not many days left to turn the boat around. There are not many weeks, after that, to turn the world around.

    Either this ship is headed nowhere, or I'm missing a lot. This preliminary data on this nautical microcosmic adventure does not bode well for the macrocosm.



    On Tuesday, November 10, 2015, Dan Smith wrote:

    Metaphysics is often described as news from nowhere. Well, that's exactly where this cruise will be headed.........

    This cruise will serve as a microcosm for the disclosure that will pre-empt the September surprise. This would be a moderate sized commercial ship, of which the participants in this seminar will constitute a small minority. All participants would be encouraged to bring a significant partner, whether or not said partner is metaphysically inclined.

    Yes, this cruise would be all about me and the BPWH/SWH/CTC (4M/K/SoT/X2). This is the presupposition for my involvement, at least.

    A condition for participation, and especially for receiving any stipends, would be involvement in and/or close observation of the 'proselytizing' of the other passengers wrt to the disclosure that is expected to pre-empt the September surprise.

    I can't imagine why anyone would wish to join such a cruise.......



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