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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Post by jizba on Mon Apr 06, 2015 9:39 am

I am NOT a mathematician.
What I am about to write may be well known or be TOTAL NONSENSE.
So please bear with me.

There are two separate but otherwise identical complex systems.
I: a+bi
J: a+bj

Now combine the two systems and get

I+J:a+bi+cj

There may be many rules to resolve numeric combinations. Here is one example

ai+bj  =(a+b)i if a is greater than b
          (a+b)j if b is greater than a  ... otherwise 0

aixbj=axb

Any comments?

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Post by jizba on Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:59 pm

Oh come on, I get tired of receiving a reply giving ample references to studies of these equations, or to tell me that by my rules the whole thing reduces to nothing and is nonsense. So I will drop the other shoe anyway and describe the idea that strange math would be of interest to science fiction writers. Consider the plot of the following science fiction story:

A physicist discovers strange math and realizes that it is the key to accessing alternate universes. He/she postulates that I (I:a+bi) is valid in our normal universe. However J (J:a+bj) is a characteristic of the alternate universe. So he/she builds a structure that supports I+J with small and equal constants. When a person from normal universe enters the structure and increases the constant b, on exit from the structure he is in alternate universe. You get the idea.
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Post by Cyrellys on Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:00 pm

Hi Jizba,

yes I get your idea as you summarized it in the second post...what I'm curious about, is how do you deal with the inherent differences in the living being of one universe vs another wrt long-term survivability?


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Post by jizba on Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:05 am

Thanks for the response. As far as the science fiction analogy, I suppose it would be
the writer's option to resolve it. For example the alternate universe may have so different physics that no stars have ever formed there. But seriously, my analogy was intended to highlight the idea that a simple number can be made to have totally unexpected consequences. For example a blood test on a patient that changed from a normal reading to an anomalous value will cause the doctor to prescribe a totally different treatment.

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