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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Post by Vaclav on Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:25 am

It would be fascinating if the alphabets used by Hindus in their oldest manuscripts
were to be found similar to alphabets of alien documents found on artifacts on the
Moon, Mars or some rocky asteroids.
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Post by Cyrellys on Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:31 pm

Yes or Ogham, although the earliest use of it was strictly for place identification.

I think the most likely place to find any writing would be Mars. The indications there may have been nuclear type weapons used on the surface might mean some digging might be in order to locate entrance to any possible underground structures. If we can find buried military bases using satellites in places around the world, there's little doubt someone has already thought to look for the same there. But as with most things involving ancient civilizations or possibly ET related, those who would do it, seem to think themselves exclusive...might have a good deal to do with proprietary ownership of exotic technologies which keep us masses in the proverbial stone age and lines the pockets of corporations that have been designated on equal standing with individuals.


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Post by Vaclav on Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:02 am

Thank you for your comments. My hope is that discussion of this nature may cause some influential individuals to think about sending expeditions (like Sir Scott vs Amundsen) to do explorations just for the sake of acquiring knowledge.
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Post by Cyrellys on Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:08 pm

Yes it would be a positive if someone did feel inspired and have the resources to do that exploration. There are however some serious road blocks which those 'in the know' keep in place which are incredible hurdles. It's part of the corruption in our governance which we see not just at elected government levels but also in the corporate, academic, and other levels. That corruption currently benefits from preventing that kind of exploration and the emergence of our hidden history and existence of our true relation within the greater scheme of things. So realistically a demilitarization of the corruption from the helms of power and influence would first have to occur. That is currently underway with the rise of the alternative media, alternative field researchers and supporting academics, and the struggle to re-establish the principles by which the world once aspired to in the form of truth, liberty, justice, and the pursuit of happiness. It is a global effort not just at national or state levels. However the closer we get to truth and unseating corruption, the more dangerous things become. We see this right now in politics and in population engineering where things are getting really dicey because powers don't like being unseated or redirected. They fight for survival and some give indications they're willing to do their worst to maintain. The positive however is that this brings also great opportunity for great minds to find and propose equitable exchanges that improve things for everyone without decimating the Old Guard.


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Post by Vaclav on Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:21 pm

Your response is excellent. You have plenty of bad news but also some encouraging statements. I certainly would prefer a privately funded non profit expedition by a US
organization, but according to you that would be difficult. One reason (of several

) I posed the question of the alphabet was to engage the interest of some influential
hindu scientific group. India, after all has an active space effort and it would be a matter of their pride to pursue the investigation of possible contact with aliens in
their past. So a little push on my side might help.
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Post by Cyrellys on Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:21 pm

Vaclav wrote:Your response is excellent. You have plenty of bad news but also some encouraging statements. I certainly would prefer a privately funded non profit expedition by a US
organization, but according to you that would be difficult. One reason (of several

) I posed the question of the alphabet was to engage the interest of some influential
hindu scientific group. India, after all has an active space effort and it would be a matter of their pride to pursue the investigation of possible contact with aliens in
their past. So a little push on my side might help.

Thank you. I don't think it is impossible, but I note that not much has been done by private American organizations in the last 10 years since the award went out for the first private space endeavor. Organizations like Space X, Sierra Nevada Corporation, Bigelow Aerospace, Blue Origin, Lockheed Martin, Interorbital Systems, Orbital Sciences Corp, Planet Space, Virgin Galactic, SpaceDev, et al seem to be home-bodies, except perhaps for a little something I heard about Bigelow buying the membership database of MUFON a few years back.

You mention India. I think it is has alot going for it, wrt such a project. India a couple years ago was giving pretty clear indication of it being, at least in the aerospace development and activity area, firmly off the globalist controlled plantation. This based on the protests from plantation nations like the US, Britain, AU, and China protesting some of their launch and research endeavors at the time. I haven't looked lately, but I would home the trend was continuing toward planet exploration and being open to interaction with the greater community on positive terms.

Another very real possibility for such a project based on the current political noise, would be Russia. Putin has given clear indication of being 'off the plantation' and going independent. He's also outlined in the media where he stands on principles, his intentions geopolitically, and so on. He's also been remarkably responsible wrt the handling of the Ukraine despite all the criticism and saber rattling from western nations. He has a well established space program and has been very much into 'home improvement' wrt his own nation. Meaning that if there were something in it that benefited his nation and his people, he'd probably be game.

Personally I'd love to say let's get a US company or organization to do a project like that right now. But there is an internal struggle going on here, over a large number of things including suppressed human history, political actions and conduct that violate our Constitution, militarization of our society/law enforcement which is anathema to how our nation was designed to operate, corruption in our financial system and many governmental orgs, a distinct lack of public oversight and control, transparency, excessive national security state apparatus control, issues with our education system, and now thanks to our current leader an outright Constitutional crisis over what he did circumventing Congress and the Constitution with his Executive Order on immigration. I'd love to say we American's are ripe for that kind of adventure right now, but we'll be lucky if Washington DC isn't expelled from the Union before the end of next year over this stuff I mentioned and more.

I personally don't think think the rest of the world should wait till we get our act together to go after a greater tomorrow. That's why I spoke of India and Russia. We can catch up at a later date when our house is cleaner.

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Post by Vaclav on Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:47 am

A fine commentary. It deserves to be printed in an opinion column. Thanks
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Post by Cyrellys on Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:45 pm

Yes it's just opinion.  I was looking last night at the events in Ferguson, which as I'm hearing have not improved.

But maybe the nation will listen to reason with the sequal to Molon Labe, titled Midnight Ride?

http://www.midnightride.us/mr_script.pdf

I doubt it when the people immerse themselves in reaction to problems manufactured to cause those reactions.  But, despite their enslavement, I'm sure they could still handle sending sending starships to mars and greeting ETs in unambiguous contact events.

But anyone is welcome to try to work with the depopulation culture corporate constructs, and attempt to achieve something positive. My opinion is worth less than two cents and they'll charge far more for their services.

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Post by jizba on Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:11 pm

Do the Easter island natives speak the same language as the Indus valley people some 4000 years ago? After all the Easter Island script is IDENTICAL to the Indus valley script (check it out do a Google search on Easter Island script)

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