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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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WikiLeaks: About 80 Companies Cooperating With NSA; Intel, IBM, Microsoft Included

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WikiLeaks: About 80 Companies Cooperating With NSA; Intel, IBM, Microsoft Included

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This should be an interesting watch , we already knew this was happening but its good to keep an eye on things Smile

original link http://hackread.com/wikileaks-80-companies-helping-nsa/

As if the Snowden revelations were not enough, we have yet another startling claim by WikiLeaks stating that nearly a hundred corporations colluded with NSA in its surveillance programs.

The tweet from WikiLeaks says,

“80 corporations have been bribed or coopted by NSA including Intel, CISCO, IBM, Oracle, Microsoft, AT&T, Qualcom”
The WikiLeaks have got hold of some NSA documents that has names of the corporations that collaborated with the intelligence agencies to snoop on digital data.




The obtained slides state about 80 ‘Major Global Corporations’ are supporting BOTH missions; however, there is no clear indication as to what ‘both missions’ stand for.

Taking a lead from the cue that the slide is labeled as COMINT, it can be safely inferred that ‘Both’ refer to communications between people.

Some of the listed companies include well-known global organizations, such as Telecommunications and Network Service Providers – AT&T, Verizon and Qwest (now part of Centurylink); Network Infrastructure – Cisco and HP; Hardware Platforms Desktops/Servers – HP, Intel, Qualcomm, IBM, EDS (now HP); Operating Systems – Microsoft; Applications Software – Oracle, EDS (now HP) and Microsoft; Security Hardware and Software – Cisco, Oracle, EDS (now HP); System Integrators – HP, IBM, Cisco and EDS (now HP)

This is the first time ever a documented list of company names engaged with NSA has been highlighted.

These companies had earlier refuted charges of working in collusion with the intelligence agencies when NSA’s PRISM activities were disclosed. Some of them even alleged being victimized or attacked by the government for refusing to cooperate with the intelligence agencies.

HackRead has many articles on companies–NSA association: refusal and charges.

See: IBM sued by its own shareholder for cooperating with the NSA
A UK citizen has sued Microsoft for leaking Prism private data to the NSA
We never share info with NSA, you can still use internet anonymously: Country Director of Google in Brazil
Hacked Emails Show How Much Microsoft Charges FBI for Selling Your Personal Data
While the information made public by WikiLeaks only corroborates the common men’s suspicion about the NSA and corporations working together, it is bit intriguing that WikiLeaks has not made public the full list of organizations. WikiLeaks is notoriously famous for making documents public that shames the US government.


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