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Post by spacemaverick on Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:15 pm

Sailors that helped decontaminate USS Ronald Regan off Fukushima now showing signs of possible radiation sickness. Videos and pictures show that they did not wear protective masks or clothing. When I was in the Army and detectors went off or we knew that there was possibly going to be a problem; we put on protective clothing and donned a mask.

http://enenews.com/watch-navy-crew-members-use-no-masks-to-scrub-radioactive-particles-aboard-uss-ronald-reagan-after-311-cnn-the-idea-here-is-all-about-safety-video-photos

http://enenews.com/report-many-sailors-from-uss-ronald-reagan-suffered-problems-after-311-no-amount-of-money-would-compensate-me-if-im-23-years-old-and-bleeding-from-my-behind

http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/12/column-3-mysteries-about-the-us-navy-sailors-suing-tepco/

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/baySoCal-Sailors-Sue-Japanese-Utility-Over-Radiation-185149871.html

http://enenews.com/top-conservative-website-lawsuit-proves-true-tepco-lied-about-radiation-americans-despicable

U. S. Navy Sailors sue, Readings on board ship.

http://www.simplyinfo.org/?p=8788

http://enenews.com/newspaper-navy-sailors-experienced-great-physical-pain-after-fukushima-radiation-exposure-lawsuit-therapies-chelation-bone-marrow-transplants-required

http://enenews.com/nsfw-footage-alarms-going-during-radiation-scans-uss-ronald-reagan-crazy-dying-videos-hey-put-camera-away-video

THIS IS NOT GOOD AND THE SICKNESS INCREASES.


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Re: USS Ronald Regan sailors who decontaminated the ship suffering radiation sickness

Post by spacemaverick on Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:17 pm

AN UPDATE ON THE USS RONALD REAGAN CREW MEMBERS

http://enenews.com/navy-sailor-higher-ups-senior-chiefs-theyre-sick-after-fukushima-exposure-contacted-after-segment-national-tv-video

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2291365/Fukushima-sick-Two-Navy-veterans-join-federal-lawsuit-Tokyo-Electric-Power-Company-nuclear-power-plant-meltdown.html

http://enenews.com/press-conference-people-trying-commit-suicide-aboard-uss-reagan-during-fukushima-mission-ship-living-fear-every-day-horrible-audio

http://enenews.com/navy-sailor-press-conference-remove-three-layers-skin-hands-arms-after-fukushima-exposure-treated-almost-plague-audio


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Post by spacemaverick on Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:36 pm

enews had an audio recording of sailors making recordings of the alarms (radiation warning detectors) going off on the ship.  I wondered why they did not put their suits on.  I was in the army and air force and we were provided suits to protect us from contamination.  Don't know why the CO didn't order it.

I found a video of the alarms going off and sailors reactions.  I will post it once I return to Florida sometime in the next 2 days.  I'm on a tablet right now.  Sad to see what is done to our sailors.  Having been through NBC school in the army...I have an idea what should have been done for their protection.



Most of the sailors appear not to know what they are up against.  Listen to the voice on the recording.  Listen to the alarm going off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=m5Wa_1PZzR4

More from a different perspective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWUD-hbMKcY&feature=player_detailpage

Radiation from de-salinated water etc...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3tDKNkhNP0&feature=player_detailpage

Navy Quartermasters talk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNCZiPKWjzY&feature=player_detailpage

More on Quartermasters.  Extended length.

UPDATE

Toll Mounts Among U.S. Sailors Devastated by Fukushima Radiation

Harvey Wasserman | January 11, 2014 11:41 am

From EcoWatch transforming green

The roll call of U.S. sailors who say their health was devastated when they were irradiated while delivering humanitarian help near the stricken Fukushima nuke is continuing to soar.

So many have come forward that the progress of their federal class action lawsuit has been delayed.

Bay area lawyer Charles Bonner says a re-filing will wait until early February to accommodate a constant influx of sailors from the aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan and other American ships.

Within a day of Fukushima One’s March 11, 2011, melt-down, American “first responders” were drenched in radioactive fallout. In the midst of a driving snow storm, sailors reported a cloud of warm air with a metallic taste that poured over the Reagan.

Then-Prime Minister Naoto Kan, at the time a nuclear supporter, says “the first meltdown occurred five hours after the earthquake.” The lawsuit charges that Tokyo Electric Power knew large quantities of radiation were pouring into the air and water, but said nothing to the Navy or the public.

Had the Navy known, says Bonner, it could have moved its ships out of harm’s way. But some sailors actually jumped into the ocean just offshore to pull victims to safety. Others worked 18-hour shifts in the open air through a four-day mission, re-fueling and repairing helicopters, loading them with vital supplies and much more. All were drinking and bathing in desalinated water that had been severely contaminated by radioactive fallout and runoff.

the rest of the story;

http://ecowatch.com/2014/01/11/sailors-devastated-by-fukushima-radiation/

THIS IS INTOLERABLE WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT AND THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT HAS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN AND NOT TAKE CARE OF THEM.

US SAILORS FILE A LAWSUIT FOR RADIATION FRAUD
http://www.examiner.com/article/us-navy-sailors-sue-japan-for-radiation-fraud

http://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/earthquake-disaster-in-japan/us-sailors-sue-japanese-utility-over-radiation-exposure-1.202197

http://japandailypress.com/us-sailors-sue-tepco-and-japanese-government-for-lying-about-radiation-risks-2720482/

Japanese government failed to warn their own of the risks.

http://japandailypress.com/authorities-failed-to-warn-japanese-public-about-spread-of-radiation-194671/

Criminal probe by the government of Japan?  That's a good one.

http://japandailypress.com/criminal-probe-into-fukushima-nuclear-accident-begins-038206/

Per US NAVY authorized media promotional video of the mission. A fleet of 20 ships, 140 aircraft and 12,500 personnel were sent to assist in operation TOMODACHI. All ships and most all aircraft were contaminated. Many personnel were also exposed as we are finding out. The airborne squadron aircraft used in the relief missions had to stay behind after the carrier was smart enough to leave for home. The aircraft of that mission were just recently released and flew home to their home base after almost 2 years of decontamination. The aircraft carrier Ronald Reagan has been docked since its return from Japan and is doubtful to return to service anytime soon if at all.  (Researched by Zorgon)


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US Sailors Sue TEPCO for Radioactive Fallout Cover-Up

One of he lawyers tells us the story.


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Re: USS Ronald Regan sailors who decontaminated the ship suffering radiation sickness

Post by Jake Reason on Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:26 am

You're doing good research.
Thanks Maverick

True story...

I have a good acquaintance whose son was a Colonel for the US armed forces. He was a teacher in the art of war. I don't know what the proper title for that position. He served in Iraq. A large training camp was built out in the western desert away from the fighting for training thousands of troops before sending them east where the action was. And of course they used loads of depleted uranium ammunition during training.

When he was stationed back in California as part of a temporal leave, he developed throat cancer and died within months. 40 year old non smoker, in better physical shape than a 24 year old athlete.

Hush-Hush.

Even his father, a retired All-Star Pro Football player had a hard time dealing with knowing the cause. Too shaken to talk about it.

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Jake Reason wrote:You're doing good research.
Thanks Maverick

True story...

I have a good acquaintance whose son was a Colonel for the US armed forces.  He was a teacher in the art of war.  I don't know what the proper title for that position.  He served in Iraq.  A large training camp was built out in the western desert away from the fighting for training thousands of troops before sending them east where the action was.  And of course they used loads of depleted uranium ammunition during training.

When he was stationed back in California as part of a temporal leave, he developed throat cancer and died within months.  40 year old non smoker, in better physical shape than a 24 year old athlete.

Hush-Hush.

Even his father, a retired All-Star Pro Football player had a hard time dealing with knowing the cause.  Too shaken to talk about it.

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A sad thing indeed, depleted uranium in the air and on the ground. Chemical weapons dumps blown up and burned, some vaccines injected that were not perfected and then you go back to agent orange for the Vietnam era. One of the things we have learned from history is we don't learn from history.


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The use of depleted uranium in the ammunition and some parts on equipment was one of the big problems the founder of Ghosttroop had with the recent conflicts in the Mid East because it demonstrated the entrenched complete disregard for human life. That disregard seems to have become widespread across the services as if a part of the culture. We're starting to see the effects of that cultural stance with the service members who after returning take employment in law enforcement. Cy


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Cyrellys wrote:The use of depleted uranium in the ammunition and some parts on equipment was one of the big problems the founder of Ghosttroop had with the recent conflicts in the Mid East because it demonstrated the entrenched complete disregard for human life.  That disregard seems to have become widespread across the services as if a part of the culture.  We're starting to see the effects of that cultural stance with the service members who after returning take employment in law enforcement.  Cy

I am inclined to agree with you to an extent.  Being retired law enforcement and corrections, the new breed is less tolerant of people in general.  It didn't use to be that way. I just retired from that career in Feb. 2012. In fact that picture I use is at my retirement party. I had enough at that point and it was time to go. 20 years.


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Cyrellys wrote:The use of depleted uranium in the ammunition and some parts on equipment was one of the big problems the founder of Ghosttroop had with the recent conflicts in the Mid East because it demonstrated the entrenched complete disregard for human life.  That disregard seems to have become widespread across the services as if a part of the culture.  We're starting to see the effects of that cultural stance with the service members who after returning take employment in law enforcement.  Cy

I am inclined to agree with you to an extent.  Being retired law enforcement and corrections, the new breed is less tolerant of people in general.  It didn't use to be that way.  I just retired from that career in Feb. 2012.  In fact that picture I use is at my retirement party.  I had enough at that point and it was time to go.  20 years.

My family has always had friends within local law enforcement. My Dad, volunteered regularly to assist with different busy-work duties up until a year ago when he decided it was getting to be more than what he still had energy for. I think he still goes on ride alongs occasionally but that's about it right now. Police work was always an honorable and respected profession. There used to be high standards of conduct and every family could teach their youth that an officer could be trusted and depended upon if trouble ever visited them. Now I have friends who advise their kids to steer clear. Officers are not what they used to be. Families are now working to solve trouble on their own because the arrival of officers too often now ends in some unnecessary tragedy or injury to someone.

It is sad to hear and see that people are now, because of this new generation, finding it more prudent to avoid even chance encounters with officers even or especially if you are law abiding because it seems they are being taught a mindset where every person is a criminal in some way and should be treated like an animal.

My stepson originally chose to go through officer training in Cinncinati and he finished it, but after some time on the job decided it wasn't what he expected it to be. He's since gone to work for a cousin's company instead. That is sad because he's a good kid, who conducts himself honorably and when the good no longer take up the challenge it leaves a void which is filled by someone and these days that someone seems to be filled on occasions with a lesser individual. Then we hear something sometime later, some unfortunate event, in the news that can be traced back.

I have heard through my family grapevine that many of the old school officers are leaving because the new generation are more or less disturbing as a whole.

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Cy, you have hit the nail on the head. Same story here. These sailors on the Reagan will have trouble listening to the authorities now because of the way they have been lied to in their situation. But there are still good people out there and those are the ones we need to support. Our troops, no matter what battle zone they go into be it things like Japan, Haiti to help go with pure hearts and motives for the most part...then they find out what is real. Sad they have to find out the hard way like these did. I also served in the Army in the 70's and the USAF in the 80's with pure motives going in...then I learned.....These sailors or any others like our atomic vets or the Tuskegee airman should not have had to go through what they did. This cycle of treatment for our vets needs to be broken.


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Post by spacemaverick on Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:08 am

Number of sick U.S. military first responders doubles — Around 250 victims of Fukushima radiation exposure contact attorney — Congress: Reports are ‘disconcerting’

The number continues to increase from the USS Reagan and now the USS Essex and USS Germantown which were part of the Reagan flotilla. I suspect that there will be more as time progresses.

http://enenews.com/number-of-sick-u-s-first-responders-doubles-around-250-victims-of-fukushima-radiation-exposure-contact-attorney-congress-reports-are-disconcerting-video

Stars & Stripes, Jan. 27, 2014: Congress has instructed the Defense Department to launch an inquiry into potential health impacts on Navy first-responders from Japan’s March 2011 earthquake, tsunami and nuclear disaster. [...] While the instruction is not law, Defense Department officials said that they were taking the request seriously. [...] These individuals claim to be suffering from exposure-related ailments such as unexplained cancers, excessive bleeding, thyroid issues and ailments including loss of muscle power, migraines and vision problems. [...] The suit was filed in federal court in San Diego in December 2012 seeking damages and funds to cover medical expenses. The original eight complainants were on the USS Ronald Reagan, but the suit has since expanded to include those who served aboard the USS Essex and USS Germantown as well as attached Marines. [...] some claim they were pressured into signing forms confirming they had been given iodine pills when none had been provided.

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Post by Bard on Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:49 pm

Sounds like Gulf War version one I have memories of.  I do recall being forced to take pills, in military formation, under threat of court martial, if we did not comply. Yes, even, "Open your mouth..." inspections and all... They did not seem to mind incidental side affects soldiers were having.  Dizziness, nausea and vomiting, headaches, to list a few. Can't really fight effectively, when you can't even aim, right?  Apparently, those little pills were able to save us from a tormented death of Nerve Agent.  

Yes, it still goes on. I'd like to say, that there may even be some rouge projects within Darpa/H.H. using humans as test subjects. False memory syndrome and such, but that would be 'insane' and or 'conspiratorial'.  Our government would never contemplate such things. One would think.

It's not generally in ones best interest to run around claiming MK-related programs actually exist for obvious reasons.  Yea, not something that would be beneficial. It would be incredibly difficult to prove.  But hey, just to show you I have a sense of humor, how do you remove the Von Braun Bluetooth devices behind the left ear?

Can I be the first to coin it the VBD?

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Hi Bard, I can't say much about the Gulf War. I served during the Cold War and Vietnam era. We didn't have those little pills or depleted uranium. We did have chemical suits which were cumbersome along with masks and full chemical gear.

I'm sure there are things that go on that they don't tell people. Probably some rogue elements doing worse things. Too much compartmentalization where one hand doesn't know what the others are doing. Who's watching the watchers?


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Good Morning Spacemaverick,

Considering the situation you are seeing with these sailors, their support staff, families, and the current condition of government, what do you think the general population of nation or even the world should be doing right now for them? What do they most need from us? How can we best help them, from the average individual, to national level, to world level? Do you have any ideas or recommendations you think might be constructive as yet?


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I don't think the government is going to do anything simply because they (the government) have been taking benefits from vets piecemeal for awhile now. That being said, I believe the public needs to be shouting from the housetops to the news, representatives, blogs and as many outlets as they can about the plight of these sailors and demand that the government help them. They should have been given an exit physical. I don't know if they still perform exit physicals or not. I know I received one when I separated in 1979. Those who are still active duty should be given thorough physicals to determine if they have any iodine 131 in their thyroids. The government needs to jump in there and see what damage has taken place physically on these sailors.

Secondly, I have found that the private sector has done more for people in need than the government does currently. Someone needs to start something akin to the "Wounded Warrior Project" to help these sailors once they have separated from the service. Even though they were not involved in combat they were placed in danger helping another nation as first responders. This type of organization could off set medical expenses for those in need. As a veteran I have found that follow-up on a service connected issue is hard to get help for taking care of it. The care is not at a high level as is the commercial sector.

In short what they need is exposure nationally about their plight which is lacking in the mainstream. They need our help for medical care that seems to be lacking from the Navy, the DOD and our government in general. (Remember Agent orange and in the Gulf War "Gulf War" syndrome) It took many years and vets dying because the government sat on their seats of do nothing before anything was done for these guys and gals.

Internationally, pressure should be brought to bear to hold responsible the Japanese government and TEPCO for not warning of the radiation issue when they first knew about it. Their government and TEPCO should help provide the monies for the medical treatment these affected sailors need. This nuclear accident has affected the whole world and Japan needs to be helped by the scientific minds of other countries to entomb this monster whether Japan government wants it or not.

Militarily, an investigation into whether the task force commander knew of the danger or not should be conducted. I served in the Army and do not know that much about modern ships but I heard an audio recording somewhere on enews that sailors were commenting about alarms going off on the ships indicating radiation. I believe there should have been an effort to turn that flotilla around and get away from it. Secondly, batten down the hatches and find out what is going on outside the ship. I saw pictures of sailors decontaminating the flight deck with no gloves, no masks, no suits, nothing covered except that which they would wear for cold weather. When I was in the Army in the 70's we decontaminated vehicles (drills) in full chemical suits (also protected from fallout) gloves, rubber duckie boots, full mask with hood and taped where boots met pants, taped where sleeves met gloves and basically made ourselves a sealed unit. That did not happen on the flight deck according to the pictures.

Questions to ask: What action did commander take when they became aware of the radiation issue? Was this action in accordance with established protocol? If not, why? Is the established protocol for dealing with radiation / fallout sufficient to maintain the safety of the troops? If not, what needs to be changed. Why are these sailors not receiving adequate treatment for their radiation symptoms whether separated from the Navy or not? Are these symptoms radiation connected or not?

These are the things that have crossed my mind since this news about the USS Ronald Reagan first came to light. However it is not limited to the Reagan alone. A carrier does not go out alone but has other ships with it in support of various operations. Now, more sailors on two of those ships are exhibiting symptoms according to some alternative news sources. Those ships would be the USS Essex and the USS Germantown. The mainstream news is strangely quiet. Why? We hear of Justin Beiber getting a DUI and everybody wants to jump on that story but we have sailors that were helping the Japanese people and we hear nothing. A forum friend by the name of Zorgon made a comment one time and it brings to light the real problem How much will we as human beings tolerate until some sort of action is taken?


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Post by spacemaverick on Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:16 am

More complete information on decontamination process aboard the USS Ronald Reagan.  I thought this article was more detailed than any previous.

From the International Policy Digest

By Peter Lee | February 6, 2014

"As was reported in 2011, the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan was exposed to radiation contamination from Fukushima during its earthquake/tsunami rescue operations—“Operation Tomodachi”–off the Japan coast. The original coverage minimized the significance of the contamination, saying it was equivalent to an extra month’s background radiation.

This narrative was called into question as sailors who had served on the Reagan at that time filed suit, first in San Diego court and then against the Tokyo Electric Power Corporation or TEPCO, for damages relating to health problems they blamed on the contamination. Currently, there are more than 50 plaintiffs and their attorney says he expects the number to grow. Congress recently directed the Department of Defense to look into potential health impacts from exposure during Operation Tomodachi. Stars & Stripes reported the story with this arresting image of a line of sailors pushing soapy water across the Reagan’s flight deck."

"First off, the adjective “potential” perhaps conveys a false idea of the level of confirmation that the Reagan was contaminated. The Reagan is nuclear-powered, and chock-a-block with radiation detectors. Indeed, the CBS report at the time acknowledged that the radiation detectors were triggered. So the radiation contamination was “actual” not “potential” unless one wants to engage in word-parsing that there were no radiation detectors on the surface of the flight deck, so there was no confirmation of radiation contamination in the particular locations where the sailors were pushing their brooms at that time.

But it looks pretty likely that there was contamination, for a key and dire reason: the Reagan had experienced a snow storm while it was near the Fukushima reactor, raising the possibility that the plume of radioactive material, instead of dispersing in the higher atmosphere, had been washed down—and all over the Reagan—by the precipitation. Indeed, a sailor who is suing for health-related issues stated that the snow “tasted metallic.” Not exactly a good sign.

Which meant it is likely that radioactive particulate was all over the ship, and available to be inhaled. So it’s not like the crew simply experienced an increase in background radiation one might associate with a stay on the space shuttle or by standing next to a poorly shielded microwave; it is possible they were exposed to and inhaled radioactive particulate, which is universally acknowledged to be very bad for you."

The above taken directly from the article.

All the radiation detectors on board, snow and metallic taste in the air...not good

http://www.internationalpolicydigest.org/2014/02/06/contamination-uss-ronald-reagan-fukushima-response-underreported/

They used the same decontamination procedures they had used around 60 years before.  Really!  Read on and you will see what I mean.  From the link above you will find a fairly long article filled with good information.


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