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Post by GSB/SSR on Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:10 am

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And for the insane, or other wise, we present:

Schroedinger's Cat is not Alone

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1004.4206v4

Beatriz Gato, Beatriz Gato-Rivera
(Submitted on 23 Apr 2010 (v1), last revised 31 Mar 2011 (this version, v4))
We introduce the `Complete Wave Function' and deduce that all living beings, not just Schroedinger's cat, are actually described by a superposition of `alive' and `dead' quantum states; otherwise they would never die. Therefore this proposal provides a quantum mechanical explanation to the world-wide observation that we all pass away. Next we consider the Measurement problem in the framework of M-theory. For this purpose, together with Schroedinger's cat we also place inside the box Rasputin's cat, which is unaffected by poison. We analyse the system identifying its excitations (catons and catinos) and we discuss its evolution: either to a classical fight or to a quantum entanglement. We also propose the BSVΨ scenario, which implements the Complete Wave Function as well as the Big Bang and the String Landscape in a very (super)natural way. Then we test the gravitational decoherence of the entangled system applying an experimental setting due to Galileo. We also discuss the Information Loss paradox. For this purpose we consider a massless black cat falling inside a massive black hole. After that we outline a method to compute the contribution of black cats to the dark matter of the universe. Finally, in the spirit of Schroedinger, we propose that next generation double-slit experiments should use cats as projectiles. Cat interferometry will inevitably lead to the `Many Cats' interpretation of Quantum Mechanics, allowing to shed new light on old mysteries and paradoxes. For example, according to this interpretation, conservative estimates show that decision making of a single domestic cat will create about 550 billion whole universes every day, with as many replicas of itself.


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Post by dan on Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:35 am

Cy,

I thank you so much for being so kind to me, here at OM, for just about as long as I've been going to GFC.  

And Ron is now suggesting that I do have a lot to apologize for, wrt this entire incident.  Where to begin........?  

Yes, I was hoping to get Ron in serious trouble, by my being sent to jail, and then blaming it on him.  Yes, I did try, but then I half-way chickened out.  

Actually, and to be perfectly honest, this whole incident was about just that, but then, as we see, a lot of perfectly innocent people got caught in this cross-fire.  What was I thinking?  

Maybe I should have retired last year, as the Princess had suggested. But, no, I was determined to die with my boots on, just as Louise did.

Is it too late to retire? I have to admit that I hope I am beyond the age of retirement.

What next? Is it just going to be more innocent people being injured by my sometimes clumsy predilections? I do hope not.




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dan wrote:Cy,

I thank you so much for being so kind to me, here at OM, for just about as long as I've been going to GFC.  

An Ron is now suggesting that I do have a lot to apologize for, wrt this entire incident.  Where to begin........?  

Yes, I was hoping to get Ron in serious trouble, by my being sent to jail, and then blaming it on him.  Yes, I did try, but then I half-way chickened out.  

Actually, and to be perfectly honest, this whole incident was about just that, but then, as we see, a lot of perfectly innocent people got caught in this cross-fire.  What was I thinking?  




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"What was I thinking?"

Sometimes we forget, that the Source upholds free will. For any theoretical Apprentice to interfere with free will because you believe a horse may not only be led to water, but may also be forced to drink, is anti-thematic to what its expectations of us is when we work in conjunction; pace side by side. If this (apprenticeship) is your purpose then you abide the rules of the game.

>>>The only exception is if the situation becomes so bad and lacks a more designed leadership; a situation in which an Apprentice is commanded quite clearly to take up the sword. An example of this is Joan of Frankia (Joan de Arc).<<<

It is also important to always in all things bear in mind the peripheral consequences for any choice. You have a responsibility to the whole...that means the welfare of the other paradigm inhabitants. If you seek a selfish course then you become responsible for the other innocents caught in the crossfire.

Communication and interaction is not the same thing as force applied. Force applied does not allow for the choices of others to freely act upon accumulated knowledge or allow for time toward perceptive epiphany.

Any disclosure or act on Footmans part must be freely done for just reasons without coercion out of good reason or it is worthless. You cannot force him to such end without compromising yourself and all ends to which you may be involved in conjunction with the Source.

Perhaps you might gain a greater outcome with a fair discussion on what you expect from him and the details you expect he provide. Most situations such as this arise because your expectations are too vague to mesh with his understanding in such a way that elicits a fair response. And bear also in mind that his concept of what is fair is different from your own.

Often just processes are not ones that produce instant gratification.

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Post by dan on Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:42 am

Cy,

Ron does reiterate his compliments on your posts. Shall we give him the benefit of the doubt, and suppose that he has no ulterior motives, such as poliitics or flirting? From experience, I would put almost nothing past him.

I apologized to Ron, per his earlier request, for having copped PBJ, and thereby forfeiting the chance to have him subpeonaed to testify. He excused me by saying that he would not be allowed to testify......

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"He excused me by saying that he would not be allowed to testify......"


Dan, what he said above is historically true. Good people have lost their lives over these subjects in order for the system to maintain control of them. There has been a time when if there had been any real risk of his testifying, that he might have had a convenient 'accident' on the way to the grocery store or perhaps a 'heart-attack' in his own home, courtesy of some rather interesting TTP contraptions.

I don't see any clear signs of the system evolving out of being anti-disclosure. The last window of evolution was in 2008-2010 and the public botched the process.

You hardly flinched when the glyphs invitation were presented to OMF a few months back. Did you evaluate the whole of the website's content? Did you speak with your email list about them? No. You only replied on the OMF thread. And then went back to sleep.

The paradigm is much more than just the dialog here. What constitutes readiness? Yes it will be yanked into the light kicking and screaming at some point...but will that point be when straight-line winds sit on the deck and the Xtians are howling to God for relief? At that point the system inhabitants won't care. They have what they believe to be 'get out of jail free cards'. The depopulationists drool over the day the coastal cities disappear beneath the sloshing, because, "there are not the resources to sustain the whole population through the bottleneck"

Ah but how would they know that? They never employed the vast imagination of the collective! They couldn't imagine themselves out of a wet paper bag. They will never know the human potential because they decry those who carry it.

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Post by Cyrellys on Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:21 am

"Ron does reiterate his compliments on your posts."


Nods. Salute!


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Post by Cyrellys on Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:52 am

Stan Deyo was recently on Hagmann and Hagmann.

And observers are tracking the White Military FEMA busess in N. Carolina on the move...

Meanwhile public archaeologists are trying to say Gobekli Tepe is the oldest made stone structure...Is it? It's dated to 12,000 years ago, HOWEVER Puma Punku us dated to approx 17,000 years old and you should see the size and volume of those cuts resembling diamond blade cuts.

https://www.forbiddenhistory.info/?q=node/41

If you need a video and testimony from the locals regarding it, then just review Georgio Tsoukalos new show episode on it - first aired late last year. A professional engineer did a survey of the site and made some graphics showing a re-assembly of the blocks...comes out to a structure that looks remarkably like a platform for launch of some sort of craft...matches the native 'memory' of the site.

Remember what WWII era germans were famous for? Arthur Posnansky was the first to compare the solar alignments of the site and date it to 17,000 years ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Posnansky

Puma Punku is not the only ancient site older than that...Newgrange in the Boyne Valley County Meath Eire is older too. Older than both Stone Henge AND may be at least as old as Gobekli Tepe. The oral tradition of the Old Irish date modern history starting post cataclysm 12,000 years ago.

Shrug.

So where are the missing pieces of the global mechanism that tweaks the Earths electromagnetic shield?

What's in an age? What use is truth? There are some people out there who regard lost opportunities on this order of magnitude as a crime. And that is said to scare the crap out of system inhabitants...but not enough to solicit change...generally only to ensconce them deeper in the secrecy.

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Post by dan on Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:13 am

Cy,

Soon after my getting out of court, Paul was hauled into court on a trumped up DV charge.  By the time his bailbonds person called, we had a DV situation going on right here, not to mention downtown.  On our atempt to escape to NYC (Wolf Hall) this morning, Bix was sent to the hospital, and we had to turn around in Philly.  

These are what they call 'first-world' problems.


About those glyphs....... I'm sorry, but I am ignorant about a lot of things. If you want to get me engaged in such, it would take some serious hand-holding.


What's next......? It's hard for me to say. Is there another ship for me to commandeer? My credentials, in that regard, are impeccable.




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dan wrote:Cy,

Soon after my getting out of court, Paul was hauled into court on a trumped up DV charge.  By the time his bailbonds person called, we had a DV situation going on right here, not to mention downtown.  On our atempt to escape to NYC (Wolf Hall) this morning, Bix was sent to the hospital, and we had to turn around in Philly.  



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I hope Bix is ok. Coincidence or? Hard to say. But this sort of thing with its relationships is not exactly unusual.

Cy


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Post by dan on Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:52 am

I'll admit that it is a bit of a struggle getting back on the philosophy track.........

Lately there has been talk of MJ12 and a countdown to an apocalypse.  That can be both distracting and focusing at the same time.  

Ron now calls, not having been able to contact the Princess.  He wants her to call him on the special comms.  She told me just yesterday that she was having difficulty contacting him, and wondered if something was up.  So, you see what I mean...... things do seem to be a bit on edge.  

Ron has said that there is some expectation that the riots may continue to get worse.  How can philosophy turn around an angry mob.  That is not quite what Plato had in mind, I think.  

Well, ok, the Princess was straining to load her van to get to the exhibibition. I said I would try to meet her down there. Philosophy is still on hold, for a bit.



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dan wrote:I'll admit that it is a bit of a struggle getting back on the philosophy track.........

Lately there has been talk of MJ12 and a countdown to an apocalypse.  That can be both distracting and focusing at the same time.  

>>>>  If you care to share these details I can offer response from this end.

Ron now calls, not having been able to contact the Princess.  He wants her to call him on the special comms.  She told me just yesterday that she was having difficulty contacting him, and wondered if something was up.  So, you see what I mean...... things do seem to be a bit on edge.  

>>>>  There has been disruption of cell phone clarity.  I expect there are two sources...instability in magnetic field, and the sun's response to the proximity.

Ron has said that there is some expectation that the riots may continue to get worse.  How can philosophy turn around an angry mob.  That is not quite what Plato had in mind, I think.  

>>>>  Just like other living creatures, humans respond to the dissonance in the environment.  Even Plato would be unable to craft a philosophy that over-rides the non-reasoning response to these changes.  The system opted to not disclose the problem and its effects to the general population.  Therefore they have zero intellectual resources to recognize the difference between true reason and intent vs an environment dissonance influenced reaction.  So yes the you may expect the riots to possibly continue especially as long as the System Inhabitants continue to fuel the fire with ANYTHING that may be construed as tyranny or INDIFFERENCE to tyranny.

Well, ok, the Princess was straining to load her van to get to the exhibibition.  I said I would try to meet her down there.  Philosophy is still on hold, for a bit.  

>>>>  I have the forum up and will periodically refresh to check for posts.  No rush or panic Dan.  Necessity should come first.  

Edit to add: http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33

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Cy,

Are you going to ground, or just to another venue...... out on the lone prairie?  


And who is to blame, and what are they to blame for?  Is there more than enough blame to go around?  I am a professional apologist.  I apologize for God and MJ12, if either of them actually exists.  

And, if I were either one, I could not blame myself too much for placing R&A between 'me' and chicken-little.  Poor little guy needs mucho buffering.  

But, still, 15 months...... who thought up that one?  What is the end game for that?  Maybe that will be Ron's retirement party.  He can get a job back at GM, using Afghani hampsters as crash dummies.  

I had to apologize to Paul Price for having scuttled the cruise.  I'm just waiting for an offer I can't refuse.  Like let's actually come up with a plan or something.  The Princess and I could do that blindfolded, and all the footmann has to do is laydown a card or two.  


Back to Plato&Co.........

It looks like GWF Hegel is our guy, especially with DB-B's HGS.  GWF was state of the art for anything pre-Darwinian, and there has been nothing since that amounts to a hill of beans, if I'm not mistaken.  

CRD sure did a number on philosophy, but, hey, was it his fault?  Who planted all those fossils and finches?  And don't blame God either.  Remember, every last bit of everything is of us, by us and for us...... via the Telos/CTC/SWH.  Colton points out that Darwin was even a teleologist!  


Suffice it to say that teleology appears to be on the rebound in many areas of science and philosophy, with Thomas Nagel leading the charge. In the rubric of Disclosure, teleological acclimation appears to be well underway. There is a setup for A&D. Speaking of which, I've gotten another distress call from the KR tent @Cathedral.......



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A proposal is in the works, but not from the Foot Mann. The proposal comes from the Princess in Training. "GoGo. Please come on the Sea Based Adventure. I want to learn more about how the world began, why it exists, and into what it will become. If you teach me everything you know, I will be ready for the next phase. You are my best friend."
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And you will just be coming along for the ride?
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Dan wrote:Cy,

Are you going to ground, or just to another venue...... out on the lone prairie?


And who is to blame, and what are they to blame for? Is there more than enough blame to go around? I am a professional apologist. I apologize for God and MJ12, if either of them actually exists.

And, if I were either one, I could not blame myself too much for placing R&A between 'me' and chicken-little. Poor little guy needs mucho buffering.

But, still, 15 months...... who thought up that one? What is the end game for that? Maybe that will be Ron's retirement party. He can get a job back at GM, using Afghani hampsters as crash dummies.



Gone to ground? No, I'm designed for hurricanes and inundations. Just attending to my little Tuath on this Day of Life and considering the lost festivities of the Feis of Tara as it once was where the renewal of venerated authority once made their oaths beneath the tree on the hill, long-time past.

Thinking on what could be learned by moderns, from such things as I listen to things like Hilde-beast leave quotes on the net to the effect, "Hillary Equates Gun Owners With Terrorists, Says They Are 'Prone to Violence.’" Which is quite funny considering I own but have never acted in violence anywhere, whereas she has Bengazi to HER name! Odd but that makes evidence that those who DON'T own are the actual violence prone sociopaths, but I don't draw a paycheck in quite the way she does so my opinion is worthless where policy, law, and tradition is twisting into tyranny. Apparently she doesn't realize she's in danger of seeming defunct in the head in such random observations. Ha! Nothing we didn't already know. That's why D.C. is where you send people you really don't want wandering around on the street because they might hurt themselves or someone else. And if those incarcerated in the halls of governance do manage to delay any harm by their own hand thus drawing attention to their banishment, then it is at least nice to not be tripping across their decrepit carcasses in day to day life.

I was up all night last night working on my quantum duties as ollamh in the paradigm...ran across the story of the Seven Builders (Prajapatis or Mitimas) again.


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Post by Cyrellys on Fri May 01, 2015 11:29 pm

The 15 months or the 17 months? The latter came from a party claiming working relationship with DHS. It pertains to the divine cycle of cataclysm.

>>5/01/2015 — EARTHQUAKE ALERT — ANOTHER LARGE 7.2M (6.8 REVISED) EARTHQUAKE STRIKES WEST PACIFIC AGAIN IN PAPUA NEW GUINEA:This makes TWO large earthquakes in the area within less than 24 hours.

Blaming it on Cern is easier to digest than the Other.

>>Two LSU physics doctoral students drown in Baton Rouge swimming pool.


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Cy,

I'm not in favor of guns, but I understand that some folks need that extra sense of security.  

Yesterday we were at the national Cathedral doing the flower market for Kashmir-Rose.  Today we are headed to a WCUAVC flight day at a school down here.  


Was looking at the connection between India and Greece back in the day.  In fact there was a Greco-Indian empire, created by Alexander the Great. The mutual influence



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