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Post by GSB/SSR on Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:10 am

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And for the insane, or other wise, we present:

Schroedinger's Cat is not Alone

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1004.4206v4

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(Submitted on 23 Apr 2010 (v1), last revised 31 Mar 2011 (this version, v4))
We introduce the `Complete Wave Function' and deduce that all living beings, not just Schroedinger's cat, are actually described by a superposition of `alive' and `dead' quantum states; otherwise they would never die. Therefore this proposal provides a quantum mechanical explanation to the world-wide observation that we all pass away. Next we consider the Measurement problem in the framework of M-theory. For this purpose, together with Schroedinger's cat we also place inside the box Rasputin's cat, which is unaffected by poison. We analyse the system identifying its excitations (catons and catinos) and we discuss its evolution: either to a classical fight or to a quantum entanglement. We also propose the BSVΨ scenario, which implements the Complete Wave Function as well as the Big Bang and the String Landscape in a very (super)natural way. Then we test the gravitational decoherence of the entangled system applying an experimental setting due to Galileo. We also discuss the Information Loss paradox. For this purpose we consider a massless black cat falling inside a massive black hole. After that we outline a method to compute the contribution of black cats to the dark matter of the universe. Finally, in the spirit of Schroedinger, we propose that next generation double-slit experiments should use cats as projectiles. Cat interferometry will inevitably lead to the `Many Cats' interpretation of Quantum Mechanics, allowing to shed new light on old mysteries and paradoxes. For example, according to this interpretation, conservative estimates show that decision making of a single domestic cat will create about 550 billion whole universes every day, with as many replicas of itself.


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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by skaizlimit on Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:43 pm

In order for China to settle its vast wilderness, the USA will have to offshore its storied cowboy tradition, including cowboys and cowgirls, to China.
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Post by Cyrellys on Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:34 pm

skaizlimit wrote:In order for China to settle its vast wilderness, the USA will have to offshore its storied cowboy tradition, including cowboys and cowgirls, to China.


That could be interpreted a dozen different ways. Specifically which of the dozen do you mean?


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Post by dan on Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:39 pm

Cy,

Did you get the picture I sent to your dishmail address?  Has it been censored?


Should we be concerned about China's ascendancy?  Ron might be, but I'm not, particularly.  I have even speculated that China could be our blank slate, relative to the various traditions, in our brave new world.  They could be the first ones aboard the Glory Train.  



Anyway, back to the SWH & LotP/WolfSpiritRadio........

WSR is a venue for the paranormal and ufo's, so there is a segue into the SWH via the ETH/UTH (extra- vs. ultra-terrestrial hypothesis).  

I may have been the only one on either of the OM's who favored the UTH to the exclusion of the ETH.

However, there it a rationale behind the SWH/UTH. It has to do with anthropics. Anthropics is also known as fine-tuning. The finer the tuning, the more hospitable the universe will be for life, in general, and sapient life in particular. Sapient life implies that the universe is tuned to allow for advanced technology.



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Post by Jake Reason on Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:10 pm

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Cy,Jake,Dan:

Well now, Cy, let's not jump the gun here. The USG tells the world that there is no validity to such claims of ET/UTs.  I'm inclined to believe them, right? I have a wonderful dream life, according to them.  Perhaps they will eventually realize that I am not so interesting and depart?  Wink.

So..... if they want us to believe its all bunk, then Someone needs to form another Church Committee and roll into H.H. and drag some Neuro Boys out into the streets for summary floggings.
Well I wish you some peace and quiet, MD.

As for the cover-up..... like so very few of my Ufologer colleagues, I have grown to appreciate a need for it.  And like Farley, I am very concerned of the spin doctoring in which it will eventually be admitted by Gov'ts.  And I'm even more concerned about how Christian Leaders will interpret it.

In fact, R&J might like to hear this....I believe the Vatican Observatory is on the best track when it comes to the Christian theological first-response.  I know the Protestants and especially Evangelicals, all too well.  They are very prone to make all hell break loose, by the manner in which they are prepping themselves to attack Disclosure.

And BTW Dan, I think this is part of the "Strong Delusion" - the mistaken and distorted response by his own faithful.  G-d is not sending a Delusion, G-d is simply sending what he is sending.  Which is nothing more than the free-will of other creations.  IOW, it is 'our reactionary response' that will define it as a "Strong Delusion".

As you know, I truly fear, Disclosure may well be the kick-start to the Great Tribulation.


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Post by Jake Reason on Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:28 pm

I missed this as you added it to your post after I had responded to the first part of this post -
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Now, Jake, here is the reasoning behind my, quite admittedly, very idiosyncratic interpretation of Scripture......

1.)  The self-revealing God is also, necessarily a self-concealing God.  

2.)  A principal function for Nature is to provide for that Self-concealment.

The next question is, were we God, how would we conceal the concealment?  

3.)  I would not want to announce the concealment in the Bible.  

4.)  In fact, I might even wish to create a Strawman in place of the actual culprit.  IOW, the trojan-horse for Scientific materialism will be the Antichrist.  

Is this not adding deviousness to deception?  
I think your Strawman analogy has some merit.  But still not being SM.

If we look at all the appearances of G-d in the Bible and what Jesus said about his Father.  We find some extraordinary contradictions to the common Christian views of G-d the Father/I AM/YHWH.

AND, it appears to answer a great mystery, so mysterious, that AFAIK, no theologian (of any denomination) has dared to satisfactorily explain.

And that mystery is - By what manner of reasoning could Arch Angel Lucifer think he could sit on G-d's throne, and get away with it?

Dan, have you ever thought of this question?

I have, quite extensively.....


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Post by dan on Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:57 pm

Jake,

Yes, our Christian brothers and sisters are quite accustomed to thinking about Armageddon and various other apocalyptic Tribulations. The P&D show is aimed to avert the physical apocalypse by substituting a spiritual Apocalypse, at the last minute. Should there be any objections to this cosmic strategy?

Do keep in mind that the original Greek meaning for this word is 'revelation', and, of course, the book of Revelation is the last book of the bible, wherein there is mostly just blood running in streets. Nothing appears to be revealed other than the bloodthirstiness of God. We, OTOH, envision the revealing of the BPWH/SWH. Should there be a problem with this?


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Post by Bard on Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:40 am

Gary:

Check with your fellow Stargaters and let me know if anything of note will transpire within the 'Arms of Aries' - in relationship to the enigma, of course. My spider sense is tingling...  

I'm curious as to how much of the future you know. PM's accepted or you can just email your findings. I'm sure you have my address by now?


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Post by dan on Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:01 am

The crucial aspect of the BPWH is that it is a small world.  And the crucial aspect of the small world is that it is a closed timelike curve (CTC).  Thus do we have.......

BPWH >> SWH >> CTCH.  

The CTCH is particularly difficult for us, linear/newtonian thinkers to grasp.  Even Einstein would have choked on this.  Nonetheless, most complete models of General Relativity contain CTC's.  I don't know if there is a rationale behind this mathematical fact, but there is bound to be something.

It is not easy to get across this chain of reasoning, even in the best of circumstances.  On an hour+ introductory radio show..... tougher still.

I may even have to mention that Noah's ark was actually a time-machine, transporting some of our descendants back in time to a megalithic garden of eden, to become our ancestors.  

And all of these ideas are depicted on the obverse of the Great Seal, don't we know, both by explication and by implication.  

Wasn't there something about our manifest destiny..... to be a lamp unto the nations, and ...... e pluribus unum/novus ordo seclorum......

And the eye in the pyramid...... among other things, this is the Ark landing on Mt Ararat.  No?!  

This is a lot to cover in one hour.  Meanwhile, Catfish has come up with some suggested questions for the Princess, which, to say the least, may be construed provocatively.  I am not to post these questions until after the show.  



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Dan, before you simply invokve CTC into your grand scheme, you need to solve the enormous energy problem associated with generating them. Otherwise, a metaphysical explanation, such as Mensky's in the context of the MWH, may suffice. Unlike cake, you can have your BPW and your MWH too. ;-)


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Post by GSB/SSR on Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:22 am

Dan, do ask the PtB and royale observers about the nature of "drones from elsewhere" (sometimes described as orbs) and their alleged operators, please ... thank you! JBA should be abl to provide with the appropriate background briefing to Ron, I presume.


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Your China/Moon post did remind that the Princess and I have hardly touched upon the Small World Hypothesis (SWH).  I told her this morning that I would be connecting the Disturbing Message with the SWH.  And, since the SWH is virtually unbelievable, no one will need to take the DM seriously, not at first, anyway.  So, hey, it's no big deal.
Yes, I am quite well acquainted with your SW Hypothesis and how it relates to the DM.  I think by now I could write it for you.

Here is a question I've never asked.  One that you will need to answer to the Sciences.  So here's a chance to practice.

How expansive (or large) does the the outer limits of the cosmos/creation need to be, at it's smallest possible containment, in order for the Anthropic Principle to justifiably account for and sustain this planet/world?

IOW, how much stuff is required for the Anthropic Principle to create and support this earth construct?




Also, Ron wanted to point out the errors in my several recent posts.....  He never was assigned to the Afghan Hamster Desk.  Had he actually been assigned to the AHD, I would have been the last person to hear about it.  My only excuse was that I didn't want to seem to be totally ignorant.  

Another correction item is that folks who work in the IC are not civil servants and they do not have tenure.  Ron, for instance works strictly at the pleasure of the D/CIA, John Brennan, a lifer at the agency.  If the Eschaton Express goes off the rails, Ron may easily be fired.  No problemo.  
The AFD.  I think that was 2010.  I presume such definitions change over time.  Gary will be busy thinking about this.  I notice that he too has noticed, that Ron has been inordinately public of late.  Last that happened, was April 2007.

The Pleasure of Brennan?   He is a Fordham.  That's explains a fair bit.  I can't help but wonder, what a Muslim Princess is to make of his life history.  Although he has vocally reprimanded the US POTUS of being at war with the religion of Islam, rather than focusing on Jihadists.  Of course that has been obvious since the 2003 invasion of Iraq.  But isn't being at war with Jihadists the same thing?  It is no wonder most Western Muslim clerics remain publicly mute.


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skaizlimit wrote:But, Jake ("That was a nice effort, Dan. The sentiment, that is ..." ... etc) that's not what Dan is talking about.
Since you're not telling, I'll presume you feel Dan was emphasizing that there is One Body, of which we're all part of that One Body?

I suspect this might be true.  But I have to be reserved about that, Skaiz.  I have met some professors of faith who act, do and teach practices and beliefs diametrically opposed to the Red Letters in the New testament.

And just as I can not expect a Rabbi to believe I am a Jew, as there is no sign of such, I have to also apply the same rules of judgment as they.

Now, I recognize that there are many mansions in our Father's house, as Jesus said.  And Dan is quite acquainted that I open those gates very wide.  Much wider and more inclusive than most Christian teachers.  However just as John 3:16 applies, so too John 3:18 still applies.  Respectfully, until I have walked in ones moccasins, which takes time, I am called to remain vigil that there are a great number of Satan's servants who profess Christian faith, and hold privilege in the Church of Rome.  Just ask a few Cardinals.  You'll be able to find more than a few who can tell you, "This is true my son."


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In order for China to settle its vast wilderness, the USA will have to offshore its storied cowboy tradition, including cowboys and cowgirls, to China.
Actually that won't work, Skaiz.  Their vast wilderness is predominately like the geography of Nevada.  Very inhospitable.  Take a few hours with Google Earth and fly over it at about 2 miles altitude.  It's surprising just how vast and barren it really is.  Millions of Chinese would move on mass, in a heart beat, if they could sustain themselves there.


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GSB/SSR wrote:Dan, before you simply invokve CTC into your grand scheme, you need to solve the enormous energy problem associated with generating them. Otherwise, a metaphysical explanation, such as Mensky's in the context of the MWH, may suffice. Unlike cake, you can have your BPW and your MWH too. ;-)


No, Gary. You don't really get it. I'm using the CTC more as a metaphor than as a model. The normal CTC is embedded in a larger space-time manifold. The BPW/SW/CTC is embedded in Eternity. That makes all the difference. It is all about the Leibniz Least Action Principle, from a cosmic perspective. The BPW becomes the only possible world, from that perspective. I understand, Gary, that like all modern minded folks, you struggle to see beyond the Newtonian Box.

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Post by Jake Reason on Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:38 am

dan wrote:Jake,

Yes, our Christian brothers and sisters are quite accustomed to thinking about Armageddon and various other apocalyptic Tribulations.  The P&D show is aimed to avert the physical apocalypse by substituting a spiritual Apocalypse, at the last minute. Should there be any objections to this cosmic strategy?  
Yes, it is perfectly natural for people to be concerned with apocalyptic Tribulations. That's what inspired you too, to get messy'd up in all this. No?

The objections to a "spiritual Apocalypse" are deeply imbedded in the Beltway. There's no money in it. The Money Changers can't buy it. It's way too expensive.

So you're going to need some serious backers to pull that off. Have you got a free pass to the Federal Reserve? Any keys to secrete chambers?


Do keep in mind that the original Greek meaning for this word is 'revelation', and, of course, the book of Revelation is the last book of the bible, wherein there is mostly just blood running in streets.  Nothing appears to be revealed other than the bloodthirstiness of God.
Not quite accurate. At least not for horseshoes. It's really about the bloodthirstiness of man.

You might want to take another look, Dan. Especially since you are so interested in eschatology. You see if you want to trump over the trumpets, you should be well versed in what you are truly up against.

We, OTOH, envision the revealing of the BPWH/SWH.  Should there be a problem with this?  
Yes. It's inadequate to deal with the contentions against it. And its main fundamental presumption is flawed. You've miscalculated the predominate societal interpretation of the UTH. more later


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Jake,

I think you are overly concerned about the Beltway Bandits.  The mice will play while the Cat's away.  The Cat is coming back, and She's p*ssed.  Hmmm....... more accurately, She is mildly amused with all those antics, as we prepare for some seriously messy-antics.  There is a new show in town, it's called the novus ordo seclorum.  Ever heard of it?


How expansive (or large) does the the outer limits of the cosmos/creation need to be, at it's smallest possible containment, in order for the Anthropic Principle to justifiably account for and sustain this planet/world?

IOW, how much stuff is required for the Anthropic Principle to create and support this earth construct?

Neither do you, Jake, grasp the metaphysical aspect of the BPW/SW/CTC-H.

You and I are the dream-weavers of the BPW.  God is our cheerleader.  We are about to awaken at the controls, as we commence our plunge off the edge of what we took to be our nice solid material world.  It will be white-knuckles, at first.  Not to fear, said the angel of Truth.  Our destiny already awaits us, beyond the stars.  

Now, I recognize that there are many mansions in our Father's house, as Jesus said.  And Dan is quite acquainted that I open those gates very wide.  Much wider and more inclusive than most Christian teachers.  However just as John 3:16 applies, so too John 3:18 still applies.  Respectfully, until I have walked in ones moccasins, which takes time, I am called to remain vigil that there are a great number of Satan's servants who profess Christian faith, and hold privilege in the Church of Rome.  Just ask a few Cardinals.  You'll be able to find more than a few who can tell you, "This is true my son."


18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”
What is the point of the Second Coming, if not to provide a 2nd look?  It's just that simple, Jake.  All you have to understand is that the existential urgency of the Gospel has been such as to justify, many times over, the immediacy of our existential choices.  Or would you now want to rewrite the Gospel, from hindsight?  In the BPW, the only job that goes wanting is that of the Monday-morning quarterback.  

Well, ok, so Jesus has already arranged to be his own MMQ. Are the bible-thumpers going to have a problem with this? Sure, many will see the X2 as the AC. This is just part of the acclimation regimen. It's already all over, but the shouting.



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It sure is cold outside.  -18C (below) in Balmy Niagara Falls - crunchy snow temp.  The air so crisp and dry you can easily hear people talking 1/4 mile away.

Ok let's see if I can catch-up here before dinner.
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Let us recapitulate.........

1.)  We and God are social beings, we all share the same soul, and we are co-Creators with God.  

2.)  #1 is simply the result of taking Jesus' mission seriously.  IOW, God died on the cross, and is being resurrected in us, the body of Christ.  This, of course, is blashemy, especially within Christianity.  It should be noted that the pantheists are already halfway to this truth.  Christians have been so close to this truth that they have been burned by it, and burned-out.  In this sense, I am a (serial) monotheist.  

3.) Cosmologically, we are looking at Creation as a self-excited circuit (SEC). Frank Tipler pursued this idea from the premiss of a conventional cosmology, coming up with the Final Anthropic Principle (FAP). I pursue it from a more metaphysical PoV, coming up with an ouroboric BPW/SW/CTC-H.




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Should we be concerned about China's ascendancy?  Ron might be, but I'm not, particularly.  I have even speculated that China could be our blank slate, relative to the various traditions, in our brave new world.  They could be the first ones aboard the Glory Train.  
I haven't seen a genocide plan worded quite like that before. Although I do recall the Nazi using happy/friendly sounding words and phrases to calm the Jews and gain their cooperation to board the trains.

Making a blank slate out of something so vast will be no easy task, Dan.

I recall Benjamin Fulford publishing a warning that if a genocide attempt was tried in China, there are some 5000 Ninja 'sleepers' currently employed on PtB personal security teams, that would be awoken to assassinate PtB and family at lightening speed, with extreme prejudice.   I know this sounds more like a James Bond Movie Plot, but stranger things have happened.

I'm also reminded of that Biblical Prophecy, you know, whereas a 200 million man army, coming from what's called The Sleeping Giant, will march on Israel.  Of course there is no other country that could be but China.  Amazing prophecy considering there were only 200 million people in the Whole World when the prophecy was written.  And recently, China has proclaimed it can outfit an army of 200 million.  Anyhow.... Prophecy doesn't say what peeves them off so much, but heck maybe you just nailed it right here!?  "The Blank Slate Glory Train"

..... there it a rationale behind the SWH/UTH.  It has to do with anthropics.  Anthropics is also known as fine-tuning.  The finer the tuning, the more hospitable the universe will be for life, in general, and sapient life in particular.  Sapient life implies that the universe is tuned to allow for advanced technology.  
Yes, that's exactly why I asked that question about Anthropics and how small can creation be at its minimum?

You didn't answer that, but brushed me off as if I don't understand. You are saying - Small World Hypothesis/Anthropics/tuned Universe.

So?


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dan wrote:Jake,

I think you are overly concerned about the Beltway Bandits.  The mice will play while the Cat's away.  The Cat is coming back, and She's p*ssed.  Hmmm....... more accurately, She is mildly amused with all those antics, as we prepare for some seriously messy-antics.  There is a new show in town, it's called the novus ordo seclorum.  Ever heard of it?
No, it's completely slipped under my radar.  What's her name?  Scarlett Whore?  Is she the one who rides on a Beast with the title "Mystery Babylon the Great"?

Might-as-well get used to this question, you've got about 50 million behind me lining up to ask the same Question.  Just trying to give you a heads up.


Well, ok, so Jesus has already arranged to be his own MMQ.  Are the bible-thumpers going to have a problem with this?  Sure, many will see the X2 as the AC.
Exactly my point


This is just part of the acclimation regimen.  It's already all over, but the shouting.  
And just how loud might you expect that shouting will be?


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Post by Bard on Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:06 am

Dan

Perhaps you should add a new term to the vocabulary and see where it takes you

How about the MIH, (MIND INFLUENCING HYPOTHESIS) or is that just a side effect of the big  E/U HYPOTHESIS hugs?

I have often wondered if Preserve Destiny was just the cover (leaked as alien interaction) to cover the more technical aspects of on going MK related jewelry. But then, that's just speculation.



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Post by dan on Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:04 am

MD02,

MIH.........

Even though I have read a goodly number of your posts, I have only the vaguest notion as to your actual experiences.  In any case, you evince a desire to keep most of your experience private.  I see no mention of efforts on your part to avail yourself of the various individuals who specialize in the debriefing of abductees/contactees.

There are, of course, organizations that work and lobby against mind-control, in its many forms.  I know that my sister had many concerns about this.  I was never able to offer her any specific assistance, however.

Your best relief seems to be to make your concerns known here, at OM.  I can only encourage you to continue to do so, as long as that helps with your state of mind.



Now back to LotP........  

1.)  Disturbing message wrt the Eschaton, and how best to manage it.  By calling '911', back in 1991, I was offering my services.  Our show, today, may be considered to be part of the preliminary outreach.  

2.)  Given the reality of these concerns, my own involvement probably devolves from my dad's connection with the very earliest manifestations of an MJ12-type of organization, at about the time of my birth, in 1943.  It was instrumental in my subsequent involvement with physics, and then with metaphysics.  

3.)  My first personal awareness of something out of the ordinary came in 1975, with my reading of Jack Sarfatti's 'Space-Time and Beyond'.  This was followed, within two years, by a Sophia-type encounter.  There was no particular urgency connected with this experience, not until 1991, when I was 'prompted' to make a number of phone calls, leading me to speak with Pelican.  Then the Princess made the scene, about 15 years later.  

4.)  KIM that the DM, from my admittedly idiosyncratic perspective, remains highly speculative.  It is based, in no small measure, upon the biblical prophecy of a Strong Delusion (SD), which is normally associated with the advent of the Antichrist.  

5.)  Here is the deal....... We, creatures, have been the targets of a cosmic Bait&Switch Operation.  This B&SO is a very significant part of the Self-concealment of our Self-revealing Creator.  

6.)  The turning point comes with the mother of all paradigm shifts (MoAPS).  This is when our world is turned upside-down and inside-out.  Under the auspices of Scientific Materialism, we, modern-minded folk, have come to see the mind as an accidental byproduct of matter.  We are nothing more than atoms swerving in the dark.  IMHO, we can and must stand that PoV right on its head, wherewith, matter becomes, instead, a byproduct of the (cosmic) mind, of which we, sapient creatures, are the primary manifestations.  

7.)  This, when stated quite so bluntly, does sound like the ravings of a lunatic.  BUT, nonetheless, down through the ages, the best and brightest of our species, have held such views, and this includes virtually every philosopher of historical significance, both East and West, and everywhere in between.  It was the Scientific Materialists who convinced to pay no heed to such 'ravings'.  

8.)  This brings us right up to Disclosure, and, yes, the Cover-up...... The rationale behind the Cover-up, in effect since ~1943, has been the DM.  My take on Disclosure is that it cannot be piecemeal.  Instead, what we have witnessed, in the interim, has been an Acclimation process, which, yes, has been rather hit and miss.  But Truth does not come in dribs and drabs, except, perhaps, under the regime of scientific progress, wherein truth is supposed to be an infinite collection of more or less disjointed facts.  Perhaps we will just have to content ourselves with such a worldview, if it can even be dignified with such a name.  But, no, not on my watch, at least.  

9.)  If the truth be whole, then it is a gestalt, a singular vision, to be ushered in by a MoAPS.  And can there be a vision without a visionary?  If there be any truth to what I say, then, yes, this will be a vision of biblical proportions.  Why me?  Why us, Princess?  Who else, we reply.

10.)  What we are facing is, then, the 4M/K/SoT/X2 event, which introduces the BPW/SW/CTC-hypothesis.  We are not, and never have been lost sheep, lost in space and time.  That was the Strong Delusion, perpetrated as the keystone of our plan of salvation.  

11.)  The crux of the matter starts with the question of the Rare Earth Hypothesis (REH).  Are we alone?  It is a primary postulate of Science that biological evolution is a natural aspect of the universe, and so it should be something that is prevalent throughout the universe.  Indeed, the latest findings of the astronomers are that planets, even Earth-like planets are indeed prevalent.  Yes, this is the strong current against which I swim.  

12.)  But, finally, here's the rub........ Have we not been visited? If so, there has been a formidable Cover-up, about which I know nothing, directly. Everything I say, from here on, is simply my educated guesstimate of our situation.......

13.) If we have, indeed, been visited, then the Visitors are either Extra-terrestrial or Ultra-terrestrial. My entire thesis is based upon this latter hypothesis, the UTH. A thin thread, or so it might seem.

14.) What does the UTH have to say about the REH? It says nothing directly, but is sheds a whole new light on the issue by highlighting the Anthropic Principle that was introduced to me, back in 1975, as one of several appendices to Jack's cosmic 'comic-book'. Had the laws of physics not been fine-tuned, to extreme precision, there would be no life, whatsoever.

15.) Nowadays, Jack Sarfatti is on the forefront of attempts to reverse engineer ufo's by means of Stargates. He is not optimistic about the prospects, outside of the fact that he believes that ufo's are technological artifacts, i.e. they are not metaphysical manifestations.

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by GSB/SSR on Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:18 am

Jake, I'm surprised you didn't mention this story about Brennan ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2277524/Obamas-choice-CIA-chief-converted-Islam-says-FBI-agent.html


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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by GSB/SSR on Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:24 am

Whether you like it or not Dan, the world appears to be constructed in such a way that the 'metaphysical' CTC explores all possible realities, of which we collectively experience a small sample. A few of us have -- perhaps -- helped ourselves to a slightly larger slice, by hook or by crook. Any slice or sample must be limited by our cognitive capacity to process. Should we be surprised that our cognitive function tends to set limits or reject the more unpleasant realities potentially at our disposal?


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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by GSB/SSR on Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:01 am

And now it appears that time may (or may not) be running out ...

http://blogs.voanews.com/science-world/2013/12/16/data-shows-universe-could-collapse-any-minute/

Our universe is at even greater risk of collapse than has been previously thought, according physicists in Denmark.Not only are the scientists predicting the end of the world… but the end of the universe!


Does this mean we should immediately cancel any long-term plans? The Danish scientists really don’t know when the universe will collapse. They say it could happen tomorrow–or  a billion years from now.

I wrote about the above in my "Spies, Lies and Polygraph Tape" book. Of course I was speculating about the possibility of an experimental disaster caused by an advanced alien hypercivilization.


This phase transition within the universe would take place if a bubble is formed where a Higgs-field, that’s related to the Higgs-Boson, transforms into a different value than the rest of the universe ... If this newly formed bubble is big enough, and the newly modified value produces lower energy, the bubble will then grow and expand in all directions at a pace the speed of light.


“Maybe the collapse has already started somewhere in the universe and right now it is eating its way into the rest of the universe,” Krog said. “Or maybe it will start far away from here in a billion years. We do not know.”


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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by GSB/SSR on Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:18 am

Beyond space and time ...

To understand the concept, you have to distinguish two ways of viewing reality. The first is from the outside, like the overview of a physicist studying its mathematical structure. The second way is the inside view of an observer living in the structure. You can think of a frog living in the landscape as the inside view and a high-flying bird surveying the landscape as the outside view. These two perspectives are connected to each other through time.

Well, all mathematical structures are abstract, immutable entities. The integers and their relations to each other, all these things exist outside of time

If the mathematical universe hypothesis is true, then we aren’t asking which particular mathematical equations describe all of reality anymore. Instead we have to figure out how to separate the frog’s view of the universe—our observations—from the bird’s view. Once we distinguish them we can determine whether we have uncovered the true structure of our universe and figure out which corner of the mathematical cosmos is our home. -- Max Tegmark


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