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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.

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"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.

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Post on Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:26 pm by Cyrellys

Regarding this post by Pman:

Nice photo analysis! It is interesting to see examination of photos like that.

Post on Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:42 pm by Cyrellys

Regarding this article:

From this post:

And comment at this post of mine:

And comment at this post by pman:

My meandering thoughts:

Latest addition to my mile long list of questions: what's with the appearances? Have the russians gone to bed with Nazis emerging from the history books for a round 2?


Post on Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:32 pm by Cyrellys

Wait a minute - Farrell in his book talks about the Nazis in Egypt right? or was that a left at Jesuit Lane?

Egypt huh? Muslims?

This just arrived in my email:

Relay from Douglas F. wrote:Douglas Farrell
11:54 AM (4 hours ago)

to DBongino, me, Charles, Daniel
Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

From: d1b2c3 d1b2c3 ;
To: Lee Gliddon ;
Bcc: ;
Subject: Re: Fw: [chinoteaparty] Fw: Look who's new in the White House !!!!
Sent: Thu, Aug 22, 2013 5:40:48 PM

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Guy wrote:

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Sly Mc Nasty
To: . Sly McNasty
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:22 AM
Subject: [chinoteaparty] Fw: Look who's new in the White House !!!!

Subject: Look who's new in the White House !!!!


Look who's new in the white house!
Arif Alikhan- Assistant Secretary for Policy Development for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security Mohammed Elibiary- Homeland Security Adviser
Rashad Hussain- Special Envoy to the
Organization of the Islamic Conference(OIC)
Salam al-Marayati- Obama Adviser and
founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council and is its current executive director Imam Mohamed Magid- Obama's Sharia Czar from the Islamic Society of North America
Eboo Patel- Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships
This is flat-out scary!!!
The foxes are now officially living in the hen house...
Now ask me why I am very concerned!!!
Do you feel OK with this???
How can this happen, and when will we wake up??? We are quiet while our Country is being drastically changed!!!

If you’re not CONCERNED, DELETE this. Go to bed tonight...sleep well!
Otherwise, pass it on—get the word out!

Si vis pacem, para bellum
Ok let's tick this off on the fingers once more:

Nazi International/Paperclip/NASA, Argentina/Nazi International/unified field theory (exotic propulsion systems development)/NWO

Jesuits/Black Nobility/Argentina/current Pope announcement which we're only just now hearing about but occured in February,

DHS & FEMA buying sprees for a planetary cataclysm & multiple paths for warning to be above 1500Feet and more than 200 miles inland,

DUMBS/Military Industrial Complex/US Shadow Government Apparatus/National Security Apparatus/Unacknowledged Special Access Projects/NWO/FEMA Camps and Transnational Security Practices.

Fabian Socialism/Weathermen/Obama/modern eugenics/population stabilization/Cloward&Piven/TARP/Apollo Alliance/FrankMarshallDavis/VernonJarrett/leftwingnewspaper-ChicagoDefender/NWO/violentcensureofjournalists&journalism/politicalendofgunconfiscation/martial law practices/military equipment and military grade weapons & ammo to law enforcement-IRS-FEMA-SocialSecurity/purchaseordersofemergencyfood24hours/

PostWWII coordination on both sides of the Iron Curtain Nazis (Farrell - book N.I. pp 306 & 390)/Cold War Documents quoted by researchers including statements that massive fires in Western US to eliminate places of potential hiding prior to an invasion/Russian troops sighted in US during joint trainings for martial law and public disarmorment, Russian booksellers mil types scoping out child slavery ring candidates/& Russian house to house slaughter rumor see my 8-22-13 offline notes.

Contact Control Structure/Paperclip/NASA/Military Industrial Complex/Russian political leader Medevev comment/Nazis International work on exotic propulsion system based on global research into Sirius and ancient technologies/US alternative space program/DUMBS/cyclic planetary cataclysm/Unacknowledged Special Access Projects/TS-SCI level plus clearances

Ancient History/cyclic planetary cataclysm/HyBrasil/mapofAntartica without the glacial coverings/

Post on Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:05 pm by Cyrellys

Continuing the above:

Subject: planetary cataclysm ISON(?) Surprise find

The date of the publication is really interesting besides the content.  I downloaded this one to stow since this guy finding it will probably end upgetting it deleted, especially on the heels of the "Party Girl's Tale" about getting to an elevation ASAP of above 1500 feet along side the info she was given by her party friends that the russians are here to go house to house to slaughter families (USA)

**Remember folks, in the best tradition of the "do as I say not as I do" crowd this video only depicts some goober's starship 'er Comet out for a drunken jaunt through our crowded solar system

I wonder if anyone has compared the ISON photos to the SOHO pics of starships refueling in the energy of the sun?

but it's probably all a moot point - politicians play golf while Egyptians destroy themselves because in a downward spiral such things don't matter right? Isn't that why Obama golfs so much?

Ack, it's probably just a highly bored college kid with a vivid red imagination who authored the commercial.


Post on Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:55 am by Cyrellys

I heard something halarious about 15 minutes ago, and I'll actually tell ya about it because I'm too zombie'fied still to have enough sense to not be today's laughing stock of the internet....Best buddy comes tearing up the stairs all gungho, bright-eyed and bush-tailed for the day because it's friday and tomorrow he's free of the ranch to do other things. He has the gall to say to me, GO GO GO!  RUN RUN RUN it's 630 AM!

My eyeballs rolled up into my head and I looked balefully at him over the day's ice-water jug.  You're kidding right?  Says I.  I might be like that at 11pm, Midnight, 2 or 3 am, or 5pm in the evening or just about any other time except between 5am and 7am.  This is why I wisely decided I wasn't employee material and decided running my own show had more coherent marbles....

He grins and says, awh come on!  Your the cog in this wheel!  

I laughed and replied, at 630 am you might succeed at goading me to climb a tree to retrieve an errant couch with a good shove (inside joke), or catch me stuffing my shoes bleary-eyed in the refrigerator (a whole 'nother story!), or at best wandering aimlessly -  But cog in a wheel?  or jogging?  ARE YOU FREAKING NUTS?

I'm vertical at 630 am and that's a galactic scale accomplishment in itself - call it good and pound your way on till you get to 8am and I've had about three cups of coffee....then you are welcome to call me a cog in the wheel.  

Till then heaven help us, we're in trouble.

I mean seriously, out of a 24 hour Earth day, surely the universe could grant me two hours in peace to be semi-coherent mush.


Post on Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:13 am by Bard

Cy: I'm having one of those revelation days again....

I nearly fell off my chair, drinking coffe.....

Post will follow later! It ties into your PDA technology transfer comment.

Post on Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:32 am by Bard

Off to the park - to clear the mind.....

Post on Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:40 am by Cyrellys

MD02 wrote:Cy: I'm having one of those revelation days again....

I nearly fell off my chair, drinking coffe.....

Post will follow later! It ties into your PDA technology transfer comment.

Kewl Beans! Looking forward to hearing about it! Good fortune at the Park.

Post on Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:21 am by Bard

I spent the morning, with a bit of a nagging aspect hanging over me.   I felt as if I was missing something. I oftentimes, get ‘a feeling’ I am missing or have missed something in what was said/written. It is not uncommon for me to revisit or listen to videos numerous times to draw greater insights from them.  

I found myself with ‘the feeling’ I was missing something in what I had written or how I may have conveyed it. I did not know what it was.  So, I just started reading and listening to things I had already posted. Finally I reached my destination:

Reading it a few times, the feeling dawned on me: ‘Look not at the meaning but the Capital letters within it’ ‘Not the capital letters at the lead lines’.  So I begin looking at them.  I didn’t have ‘this feeling’ while looking at the other material, already read over.

I grab a pen and paper and begin mindlessly pulling them out and transposing them….

How many Pell grants
Would one need
To surf with stars of Destiny
Opened eyes in treaty-plea
Or under guise, in fantasy.

When little Ashburn played too much
Between the pews of Falls Church
Into the basement he would go
With nothing left to touch
But Chanting - 'Little pig little pig let me in.'  

George Mason with his Bill of Rights
Might spring right from his grave
Launching ships from the Chesapeake
For trying to bind new slaves,
Blinded from its mysteries
O' profiteers of secret sheets.

1. PDA (upon seeing this I thought – “humm….PDA…”
2. FCC (Upon seeing this I thought – “HUH!? – tying them together)
3. LGM (I was lost here – until I googled… and opened the first link -  

I immediately thought of your TTP (Technology Transfer Program) comments a couple days ago, what I wrote afterwards, and what Dan said that made me write the prose to begin with. The Cogs!

Cyrellys wrote: Pray tell Apple, did this cute little toy originate in one of those technology transfer agreements or did you come up with this one, all of your own accord?

MD02 Wrote:

This is closer,Cy.....

Of course I can't possibly know this. Theirs are much better....

4.BRC ( Still lost on this meaning currently) Perhaps, its for someone else?

When I read your comments today about Cogs, an illumination of sorts came over me.  I needed to take a walk, to clear my thoughts. Deep stuff! Especially considering I wrote the poem 4-26-13 without the knowledge of the comments I left until 1 week ago.

After getting back from my long walk with the dog, I listened to the videos again and then noticed the details of the first video!

1st Video:
Uploaded on Feb 24, 2012
"Future of Communication" Lecture on "More on the Future"
.....And the rest!

2nd video:

Published on Jun 6, 2012
We discuss the meaning of life, free will, alternate universes, and alien lifeforms. Follow me on Twitter @ziasami or tumblr ( or my site

Not only that – But I am at a loss as to why I would have Capitalized Chanting and just now noticing that “Little” is part of LGM….  

Weird stuff!

Post on Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:59 am by Cyrellys

Remember our subconscious processes information from the collective consciousness(s) we have interconnection with...the greater the interconnection, the more we seem to register it/them

type 1:  human collective d-base
type 2:  biosphere d-base
type 3:  other collections of sentience (ETs, UTs, less developed beings)
type 4:  proximity collections (sort of like a biosphere d-base but on larger scale)
type 5:  Universal Consciousness - God

creative acts like writing, music, daydreaming, lucid dreaming, patterned movements etc can become venues for a psychic leak from that subconscious interconnection.  Sometimes its in the raw sometimes it's partially digested by you.

Everyone you know and interact with on some level of regular basis is all parts of your pinwheel.  Those on a respective pinwheel, spin around each other, exchange information, sometimes co-process together whether they know it or not.  Synchronicity adds its influence and ta dah!  You have the emergence of wildcards and black swans in the system.  Wisdom comes in responding and directing the results in appropriate ways.  

You're no dead-head.  You recognize the process adequately, respond to it, and provide a fertile seeding ground for more or better development of it.

Example of the pinwheeling between groups of related individuals (sometimes called soul families) is in your LGM.  Remember when I posted all that stuff about the LGM?  It was awhile back so np if you don't. What you don't know is I've also been back engineering here at home the date of the last pole shifts or cyclic planetary cataclysm based on geologic and historical data compared to my ancestral story and the correlations to Hy Brasil, Antarctica, ship logs of shrinking land/island masses as glaciers melted and seas rose to cover areas that were high and dry during the last couple passes of the cycle.  I've been doing this bit by bit off and on in order to better pin point the window of potential for this cycle to compare to volcanic, seismic, sea level changes, land mass rise & fall, and sea bed spreading.

LGM - glacier cycles result in glacial maximums and minimums.  Those cycles are interwoven with solar cycles, geologic cycles and the periodic cosmic cataclysm cycle of a foreign body which enters the inner solar system every so many thousand years on an extreme elliptic.  LGM core samples can show periods of atmospheric dust and pollens etc that can indicate the health and stability of the planet's surface.  

The cycle of cataclysm does not always cause severe trauma in every passage.  For example, the number of millenia between catastrophic eruptions of mega volcanoes like yellowstone.  Or migration of thin areas of continental crust over the planet's mantle.  Or time difference in various areas of the world between plate cracking/displacement/chunk diagonals being upthrust as can be viewed in areas of Montana along highways.  Chaotic does not mean ELE for the entire planet.  It happens too often but genetic bottle-necks are rare and not always caused by the cataclysm.

I had a convo about the future with my daughter just yesterday.  We touched on the blank spot that psychics were having in 2012. I ended up explaining about patterns in reality, paths or courses patterns travel, wildcards, black swans, and the proverbial third options which influence or alter original patterned outcomes.  This is why the original tale in Revelations is not set in stone.

Human awareness
coordinated intentions
and path/course suppositions

all move to intervene in collective concerns with patterns.  You're seeing some of how this occurs.

Carry on!



Post on Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:25 pm by Cyrellys

The context you use "Chanting" in, is as a "glamore" or shield which can be used both to conceal and to pursued/influence/call out. Part of the revealing process?


Post on Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:33 pm by Bard

Are you asking if chanting had anything to do with me coming to this conclusion? Confused as to your direction. Can you clarify - especially the 'revealing' aspect.

Post on Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:32 pm by Cyrellys

@ MD

it has to do with my earlier post on process. You're still thinking of the term "Chanting" in its traditional context not in a process context. You used it in a process context so I'm responding to it in that way. What is chanting in a process context. It is a means of altering the mind/spiritual connectivity to enable a better flow. Clarity. It is only technique in a literal sense. But there was a deeper use there which I'm noting too. As in the old term "Glamore" which is process to produce a shield or influence....i.e. some ETs use psychic glamores to cause a witness to see a natural animal in the normal environ so you don't realize it is out of place or that you're being observed, or that you stumbled across them collecting bio-material samples from the life library we live in.

In mythology, some "Others" use the glamore to be able to approach a human in a primitive state of understanding so as to avoid causing a fight or flight reaction...i.e. Native Americans recounting ancestors who spoke with a fox or an eagle. Or ancient heroes speaking with the Irish pucca or Irish each-uisage, both of which are shape-shifters.

In old Irish culture the glamore can be used to steer or influence such as the Sidhe Woman who naturally of great beauty, transforms into a hag to speak with a hero to transmit a Geis which tests the hero - setting immutable boundaries within a quest- and so alters the course of his life in some way and thereby the whole course of the world thereafter.

In modern terms the tale from the ScA affaire that told of the C's shapeshifting naturally beneath a projection of being human in order to be presented without panic to the initial group was a "glamore" whether mechanically or psychically projected is irrelevant. It is what it is. It is a historically common aspect to be found in human experience, but not something you'll find taught in any school.

So I'm not speaking of literally chanting, I'm referring to the proverbial process it implies - the tool of glamor(e) to elicit a change between the mind/spirit connection for better flow of being to produce either shield or influence or a combination of both.

speaking of the pinwheel between family members and the Cosmic Consciousness/Universal Consciousness in play....

I didn't know David Wilcock had ever spoken of Synchronicity, and certainly not in the same vein which I do....and atop it, he is also describing the practice of glamore when speaking of Anonymous...a must read from top to bottom it explains a few things from the 2008-20010 OMF stuff

And the lightning strike was icing on the also mentions what happened over the Pope stepping down to be replaced earlier this year, not all that different from this next which is also a must read from top to bottom:

I have both saved in case either were to be "disappeared", particularly the latter.


Post on Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:45 pm by Cyrellys

More stuff on the Russian question


Post on Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:10 am by Bard

Thanks for the long and detailed response.

Do you see anything else within those lines - using your intuition?  Does anyone else see anything of note?  Don't hold back!

I must admit, I have never been a firm 'believer' in the Bible Code. Perhaps, that is shortsighted?

If the future, (or beings that can travel through it at liberty) knows of a particular past or that of its own,  Surely one could assume that sending messages would be an easier task?  If, even momentarily, influence is placed within that realm, it does have it affects.

I don't want to distract from the direction you wish to take here. I will listen to any comments and withdraw.  I will link to this short discussion as well from its origination point.

Post on Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:50 pm by Cyrellys

I can't say I'm a Bible Code follower either.  But I recognize that there seem to be people in positions of power and influence with enough money and position to try to create the scenario in the book of Revelations, although the ones doing it seem to think the dark side of a created reality is the good place to be?  Only observation.  

I think it worth mentioning here that I don't strictly run on intuition.  That does play a part in what direction to take a look but largely I follow an immense web of information drawn from many sources and responding to multiple layers of patterns.  I watch the interrelations and interactions between all the events,systems and psyches out there.  Probably not the best description but it is more nutshell sized that way.

I will continue rereading what you wrote and compare it to the flow and shifts of the details in the paradigm.  I tend to notice things dribble in like lazy basketball players not in a hurry to reach a accumulation at the basket....

Edit to add:

Also MD, no worries about any conversation here. There is no specific topic defined other than that I witness, think, and write about it. Discussion is just part of the landscape of living. You're welcome to join in whatever you may be seeing or thinking on. Consider it like a living room with big cushy sofas and your favorite beverage at hand whilst this all moves forward good place for the great salmon to rise...none are silent but by choice.


Quote:  What had not been released to the American people was this source told me that Americans are being given a threat matrix score. Presumably, this is will become a life or death list. The source also revealed that he had seen, firsthand, the monitoring of talk show host Alex Jones, by this Arizona State University DARPA program. The source further took this information to mean that all Americans are receiving a threat matrix score which will be acted upon when the bad guys make their move.


more quotes from same source:

Quote: These agreements were inked in June of 2013 in Washington, D.C., at the fourth annual meeting which led to the illegally created “U.S.-Russia Bilateral Presidential Commission Working Group on Emergency Situations.”

Quote: This extra-governmental organization, formed under the Obama administration, is one of almost two dozen similar “working groups” bringing together top U.S. and Russian officials. These two bodies are cooperating on everything from the drug war and agriculture to terror, science, “rule of law” (could that be code for martial law?), health, environment, energy, nuclear issues, education, culture, media, business, arms control, and more, according to the U.S. State Department. The Senate has not ratified any of the international deals, as required by the Constitution of the United States. And as such, this is an illegal agreement.

The agreement calls for at least 15,000 Russian troops to engage in policing activities at American public events on American soil. In actuality, there are at least 150,000 Russian troops on American soil. This bilateral agreement is designed to conceal the fact of what the Russians are up to and they have been on American soil for some time.

No Staging Necessary, the Russians Are Ready To Go


Our cognitive and physical abilities are in general limited, but our conceptions of the nature and extent of those limits may need revising. In many cases, thinking that we are limited is itself a limiting factor. There is accumulating evidence that suggests that our thoughts are often capable of extending our cognitive and physical limits.

End quote.

Mind over matter dear! In this way we participate in creating reality. I think therefore I am. Now it seems to be scientifically proven.


Post on Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:32 pm by Cyrellys


Post on Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:21 pm by Cyrellys

the planet shifting it would seem?

From Quayle notes:
FLASHBACK;Ice Age Polarity Reversal Was Global Event: Extremely Brief Reversal of Geomagnetic Field, Climate Variability, and Super Volcano-VERY IMPORTANT BACKGROUND ARTICLE AS OUR POLES ARE BEGINNING TO SHIFT!

I hear that we may be now seeing the purpose behind the theorized Syrian gas attack being a false flag...DC & Britain, the two biggests anti-disclosure advocates on both ET Contact AND planetary cataclysm...


Western-Mid East military action prepared for Syria. Israel, Jordan, Turkey face up to Syrian counter-attack. Russia on war alert

Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria Britain is planning to join forces with America and launch military action against Syria within days in response to the gas attack believed to have been carried out by President Bashar al-Assad’s forces against

Syria lets U.N. inspect gas attack site, Washington says too late 129 Syria says US intervention would be 'no picnic'

Both Syria's government and the rebels claim neither used the chemical weapons, yet the west is suddenly gungho to go storming in to the latest quagmire. And the West has the most to gain, and a history of false flags to boot....

I remember in 2008 when the quagmire train wanted to roll into Iran too. Anything to keep our guys busy?

Russia is doing a token squawking about it...could it be that they have sights on real estate over here instead, like the whistleblowers are saying? Or the hardliners at least?

While the show is over there, we look more closely over here...


Post on Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:11 pm by Cyrellys

This also from Quayle:


God bless, and thanks for all you are doing.

I have received from Chase the note that I include in its entirety at the end. The part that really got me was this one:

"For Personal Accounts only: Starting September 22, 2013, you won't be able to schedule future-dated or repeating Wire Transfer to any recipient outside the United States."

What's up with this? The date is pretty close to some other dates I am aware of, when the soup letter agencies of our wonderful government are getting ready for some "unexpected" events.

"For Personal Accounts only: Starting September 22, 2013, you won't be able to schedule future-dated or repeating Wire Transfer to any recipient outside the United States.

We've updated the Wire Transfer Service Agreement to reflect these changes. You agree to these new terms and conditions by continuing to use the Wire Transfer service. The updated agreement will be available online September 22, 2013. To review the updated agreement, click "Legal Agreements and Disclosures" at the bottom of any page after you log on to Chase Online".

Aug 25, 2013



Successful fractional distillation demands a column with an adequate number of plates. (snip) Estimation of the desired number of plates requires knowledge of the composition and boiling behavior of the mixture to be separated. When this information is lacking it is desirable torun a preliminary simple distillation and to plaot a graph showing the actual relation of distillation temperature to volume of distillate...


Methyl orange belongs to a class of dyes known as"azo colors," which contain the -N=N- group linked to two aromatic nuclei. In addition to the azo group the dyes must contain salt-forming groups such as hyroxyl, amino, sulfonic acid or carboxyl groups (auxochromes) which usually intensify the color....


REALLY? Separating the wheat from the chaff requires a bit of knowledge of the composition through long periods of observing the boiling behavior...when the knowledge is missing checking a sample is desirable and so spelling out the data showing the actually relation of the temperature to the volume of the distillate. Organic they are, and belonging to a class of influence known, containing sub-groups of interest linked to great stink...ground-salting; intense color...

you can't miss them.

Shrug. SOSDD.

Post on Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:11 pm by Cyrellys

What I'd like to know is how is it humanly possible to be someone who hates enough to participate in a "hate group" and at the same time "respect individual liberties," and "state's rights?" What the latest DOD training manual is trying to portray doesn't compute. Are they so hard up for financing now that they're hiring third graders with attitude malfunction to write their manuals?

Salazar wrote:From article: DoD Training Manual: ‘Extremist’ Founding Fathers ‘Would Not Be Welcome In Today’s Military’ by Adan Salazar

Conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch recently obtained a Department of Defense training manual which lists people who embrace “individual liberties” and honor “states’ rights,” among other characteristics, as potential “extremists” who are likely to be members of “hate groups.”

Marked “for training purposes only,” the documents, obtained Thursday through a Freedom of Information Act request submitted in April, include PowerPoint slides and lesson plans, among which is a January 2013 Air Force “student guide” distributed by the Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute simply entitled “Extremism.”

Judicial Watch’s FOIA request asked for “Any and all records concerning, regarding, or related to the preparation and presentation of training materials on hate groups or hate crimes distributed or used by the Air Force.”

As the group notes, “The document defines extremists as ‘a person who advocates the use of force or violence; advocates supremacist causes based on race, ethnicity, religion, gender, or national origin; or otherwise engages to illegally deprive individuals or groups of their civil rights.’”

The manual goes on to bar military personnel from “active participation” in such extremist organization activities as “publicly demonstrating,” “rallying,” “fundraising” and “organizing,” basically denying active-duty military from exercising the rights they so ardently fight to defend.

It begins its introduction of a section titled, “Extremist ideologies,” by describing the American colonists who sought independence from British rule as a historical example of extremism.
“In U.S. history, there are many examples of extremist ideologies and movements. The colonists who sought to free themselves from British rule and the Confederate states who sought to secede from the Northern states are just two examples,” according to the training guide.

And now let's refresh: Air Force is involved in the direct ET Contact, Navy handles policy, Army handles base security.

This is how they're training our guys? I'd call this ignorant BS and question their fitness to be engaged with ET Contact if it were not for the fact that most "Globalists" espouse to believe that all national borders should be dissolved and replaced with a one world government run by the central banks and enacted by the corporations for corporations with the general population reduced, according to them down to 144,000,000 globally or in the process of so doing. It's their comfortable goal. So natural rights, history, and truth? Extremism.

What can we say for the beneficiaries of ol'Eisenhower's conditional surrender and mixing it up with the wrong bunch for a few decades?

I'm beginning to sound like a broken record in just about every subject - but here it is again! "doesn't look like much has changed."

And the Navy? Well they seem to be soundly shackled to the middle east with their own Oath used as an Argentine Gag bit on the horse sporting blinders. Policy makers? Doesn't look like it unless they happen to be gluttons for punishment? Here's where I could insert the traditional "I could be wrong" bit but I won't. Show me the pudding boys. You're over there, we're over here, and lookie what the Air Force is teaching?

Crunch crunch...popcorn.


Post on Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:46 pm by Cyrellys

Back to reading the rest:

DOD Training Manual article by Adan Salazar wrote:In a section drawing inspiration from a 1992 book titled “Nazis, Communists, Klansmen, and Others on the Fringe: Political Extremism in America,” the manual also lists “Doomsday thinking” under “traits or behaviors that tend to represent the extremist style.”

Extremists often predict dire or catastrophic consequences from a situation or from a failure to follow a specific course, and they tend to exhibit a kind of crisis-mindedness. It can be a Communist takeover, a Nazi revival, nuclear war, earthquakes, floods, or the wrath of God. Whatever it is, it is just around the corner unless we follow their program and listen to their special insight and wisdom, to which only the truly enlightened have access. For extremists, any setback or defeat is the beginning of the end.

“Nowadays,” the manual explains, “instead of dressing in sheets or publicly espousing hate messages, many extremists will talk of individual liberties, states’ rights, and how to make the world a better place.”

Judicial Watch also acknowledges the Southern Poverty Law Center “is listed as a resource for information on hate groups and referenced several times throughout the guide,” even though the group itself was directly responsible for a “hate crime” perpetrated on the Family Research Council after it was listed on the SPLC’s “hate map.”
Wow this just gets better and better...."doomsday thinking", that's awful funny considering all the info on planetary cataclysm is coming directly from military and NASA sources!

and let's see the concern over Nazi Revival thang -- Oh! you mean the re-emergence of the Nazi International?  Who never really disappeared they just moved in and set up shop in our scientific and intellectual community post-WWII under the heading of Operation Paperclip?  You mean that little bit of HISTORY?  Didn't I mention a few posts back up in ScaRZs thread about a certain Office Memorandum dated May 15th 1948 concerning Martin Bormann?  Or just where was Richter retired to after Huemul Argentina was shut down?  Who besides the industrialists would have had the same interest in zero point energy as was in Tesla?  Nah, we don't have the "ability to take ET home," now do we?  Not if you're a Air Force manual writer who abhors respecting his comrades natural rights, lol.  

And since they don't seem to know their own history, they probably didn't hear the little bit about what Nasser of Egypt had translated into Arabic (1952)....nope no Nazis there either.

Exactly what has been going on in Egypt here lately? And just how far has it spread? Syria? Visitors in the White House? Nope, I haven't been paying the right kind of mk-ultra attention, you say? I was chasing chickens the day mind-control was handed out, I suppose. I can't help it, I'm a nerd who reads books. Have you gotten around to burning books yet?

And that's not all!  Guess who Judicial Watch found mixed up in this little document - SPLC (Southern Poverty Law Center).  No surprise there.  That would have been one of my first questions upon seeing Adan's title.  The insidious venomous finger-pointer of the white paper working group world which is there more to create a demonization of veterans and adherents to the Constitution than to identify real nutcases.  They do a pretty good job, as they can be found anywhere the twisted form of globalism is writing perception manipulation documents.

Ah well whatever, right?

Post on Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:11 pm by Cyrellys

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Thank you Cy. I've read this full page. Lots of stuff. Currently watching Lilou Mace's interview of Foster Gamble. Thanks for that.


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RIP Jesse Marcel Jr.


Now where was I?

Oh yeah, the "I'm in power now" thang "so no one can stop us from twisting the rules of civilized play in the wind...." post before last above.

Well, you change artists:

EVOLVE THIS! describing the American colonists who sought independence from British rule as a historical example of extremism.....

If their seeking and attaining independence is an example of extremism then your ideology's police state and stated intentions is that more resembling the pathology of a psychopath.  You've had over two hundred years of peace and prosperity and opportunity beneath the banner of individualism, natural rights, and mutualism.  And now you teach that its better to trade all that in for paranoid psychosis?  

Who you calling FREAK, Freak?

Post on Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:45 pm by Cyrellys


Sorry, don't mind my tirade.  I happen from time to time and the Air Force manual in the hands of our cosmic representatives sort of left me a bit peeved because no one has the good sense to toss it back in the face of the authors and whack them a few times with it for good measure.

You're welcome btw.  I'm just rattling around here in this little corner.  Chewing on the wood work for lack of anything better to do.

It is homeschool season and I just went rounds on three obstinate artists of Spencerian Script who would rather outline the exercise and embroider it further with decorative designs more resembling sponge bob than a fine example of intellectual focus.  But who am I kidding?  Getting them to sit still for half the day really is an accomplishment to begin with.

So I just couldn't help taking out the garbage on the AF once more.


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