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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

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With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.

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"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.

Rue she said Protection
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Jake Reason

Post on Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:15 pm by Jake Reason

It appears to me that RP has been significantly demoted. Resources and tasks are mediocre. This whole picture looks even lower than middle management. Maybe Ron's been retired.


Post on Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:59 pm by Cyrellys

Hi Jake,

Wrt the animals I already have a bead on what's going on there. I mentioned it to MD02 via email this evening again as part of a dialog on Synch. Shrug. I'm notorious for getting caught up in the side projects and not liking it if something changes. It is what it is. I have prior obligations, and playtime is coming to an end. Synch is right. Like I said to MD, I may not like it but that darn crow on the shelf reminds me being a part of IT, is not about self.

Wrt RP, maybe. But from what I know of paradigm, there is no real thing as retired. Just stasis.

With unambiguous contact on our doorstep, the old guard globals trying to set up the book of Revelations Armaggedeon, the situation with Russians and Chinese and now muslims in the US for the coming conflict all at the same time, the different factions will pull their tools out of stasis to be on hand for the unending questions and issues they are not equipped to deal with.

Did you know UNESCO has added five NEW sites to their most protected status (treaty for sites of historic importance to all of humanity in the event of war)? More proof of our post tech civilizational status 5000 years ago just after the fall and planetary war, AND the declaration of policy we've been discussing courtesy of FARS News via Sorcha Faal, essentially affirmed by the Washington Post who parroted it....Washington Post, yeah THE Washington Post the communication device for the US State Department. And MD is getting really weird vibes lately, am I surprised? no.

Did you catch my mention that both the terms in the moniker Sorcha Faal is not russian but Old Irish? I noticed that in 2007 when the org was putting out commentary on the Minot AFB event. It was weird then and is still weird now, to me at least.

Very key all that....and so is the discussion in this video:

Jake Reason

Post on Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:17 am by Jake Reason

Jake Reason wrote:It appears to me that RP has been significantly demoted.  Resources and tasks are mediocre.  This whole picture looks even lower than middle management.  Maybe Ron's been retired.
Cyrellys wrote:Wrt RP, maybe. But from what I know of paradigm, there is no real thing as retired. Just stasis.

Dan recently wrote that R told him the R&D Show was no longer.  If Dan wanted any continuance it would be as an A&D show.  And a Gold Cross pen?  Dan the Bard.

Post on Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:37 pm by Cyrellys


excellent thread, good on both of you for sharing !!! Thomas

On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Cyrellys wrote:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Cyrellys <------>
Date: Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: Thomas Jefferson
To: Karen G

And with peers like Thomas Paine who held a closer working relation with Jefferson than so many realize, it is no small wonder that today we have a nation to thank them and all the others for. Their studied literacy and fearlessness before the great debates of their time is what made their legacy possible for us. It is our duty to protect that legacy and restore it from the damage of every usurpation of power for the benefit of tomorrow's potential brightness of minds,not simply our own.

Thomas Paine said, "In England, a king hath little more to do than to make war and give away places; which in plain terms is to impoverish the nation and set it together by the ears. A pretty business indeed for a man to be allowed eight hundred thousand sterling for a year, and worshipped into the bargain! Of more worth is one honest man to society and in the sight of God, than all the crowned ruffians that ever lived."

If we fail in our endeavors to protect and restore, a failure no one living can afford, it can only be because we had not the thought or the will to pour every resource both physical and spiritual into the effort, for not only did those gentlemen bequeath to us a nation, a set of principles embodied in plain arguments and common sense, but they also left for us every reasonable means for success, regardless of whatever design it may take or what controversies must be traversed. Failure is ever a fatal thought, whose consequences will not be limited only to 'our time'. And whatever the need may direct, it should be also without hesitation conducted with only the highest of motives, fueled with virtuous character toward proceedings in our current contest which will not cause any of us to be remembered by future generations with detestation.

While unbeknownst to most Americans, history was made 01/14/14 through covert means using a much be-soiled communication device to forward a message among knowledgeable listeners. That message was then picked up, ironically by an Iranian news agency named FARS, which content in turn was then promoted or parroted through commentary once more by the Washington Post which itself bears a reputation as a communication device for the US State Department....This is what Liberty has fallen to, passing notes behind the back of all who participate in the remnants of our Republic because the current controllers are hostile to its principles and even its existence. What was that message? You might laugh it off if it was not for a near simultaneous public statement, 'en mirror, made by the honorable Mr. Hellyer, one time leader of Canada in a detailed audio interview which can be obtained on youtube. That message pertained to what matter currently influences US policy.

And for any who still doubt, another synchronistic comment on the subject but made in a tone of dismay over the confusing seeming US behavior was published by another communicating source for Israel.

If our behavior is confusing it might be because of two things. A. not all of us are on the same level of need to know. B. There is internal conflict over the corruption entangled in the system and in the years of management of the influence. C. That recent events within this nation have entailed intolerable usurpation's and abuses of power.

I said to a friend just today, that in order to truly begin our climb from our impoverishment of mind, soul, and body politic -- from surface to system policy, we must first begin with the covert paradigm with its great siphon of man and money down through the ever widening hole in our boat, making it impossible to do but wallow and wait for oblivion if the secrecy and management is not addressed; that pink elephant beneath Unkle Sam's wayward skirt...where it roams from coast to coast, through D.U.M.B.s, research labs, think tanks, interservice groups, forgotten crates of ancient shards, and across nations sitting even now upon soils laden with the fumes of the untold ancient histories held from the Peoples of this world, even as UNESCO commits five new properties to the highest level of historical protection "in the event of war" which is within its power to do via international treaty. Histories, of loves, lives, and mistakes tangled now in our modern issues with paradigm and questions over multi-faceted corruption, which drives "substantial sums of missing money in the billions", illicit and nonsensical motives for foreign wars, false flags, and a fear systematically assembling a tyranny of population control here at home.

That beginning, no matter how seemingly crippled by tools without fine reputations, is still a beginning. To right such long running wrongs, find some redemption in its checkered past, they must first collect its many parts to be pulled kicking or screaming if necessary into the daylight where a world ready or not must face them. And then the truths must be given their head as any fine thoroughbred in the final stretch of his track.

Hold firm the rails as the gale thunders past, for you shall be the first generation in more than five millennia to see the likes of this. And if your courage, principles, and virtues hold in its wake you may rest assured that so many other greater things will arise within your grasp too. You have this potential to become the vision Jefferson & Paine built for; dedicated every resource of their lives for. This can be either the worst of times or the best depending on your reception and reaction.

I do not detract from the damages this near century long twisting of construct, through our nation by truth embargo and underhanded actions has wrought, suffered, or may yet do. The corruption is so very real, and the usurpation's of power are so very real. But these things have two roots. The first is the self-servancy and fears of those who lay yet ahead of you in this race. The other is the core of who you as a people are. That core where there lies dormant that half-forgotten spark you inherited from men and women the likes of Jefferson and Paine. It is something that stems from an even older and deeper Source; a vibrant, creative, and supportive Source; that which enabled the existence of your universe and seen in you something remarkable among all species of en-souled beings.

"...there is youth in them yet, but the fabric of reality needs them in ways few have ever discerned, " (source withheld).

Jefferson and Paine were right then, and still are even where so many have forgotten it. They understood in great difficulty there also lay great opportunity, and mankind is worthy of it. Mankind only has to remember who they are. They have to believe in it. Once more, onward.


~ permission granted to copy and forward without alteration.

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Karen G wrote:
Where is our Thomas Jefferson of today?

Thomas Jefferson was a very remarkable man who started learning very early in life and never stopped.

At 5, began studying under his cousin's tutor.

At 9, studied Latin, Greek, and French.

At 14, studied classical literature and additional languages.

At 16, entered the College of William and Mary. Also could write in Greek with one hand while writing the same in Latin with the other.

At 19, studied Law for 5 years starting under George Wythe.

At 23, started his own law practice.

At 25, was elected to the Virginia House of Burgesses.

At 31, wrote the widely circulated "Summary View of the Rights of British America?" And retired from his law practice.

At 32, was a Delegate to the Second Continental Congress.

At 33, wrote the Declaration of Independence & took three years to revise Virginia's legal code and wrote a Public Education bill and a statute for Religious Freedom.

At 36, was elected the second Governor of Virginia succeeding Patrick Henry.

At 40, served in Congress for two years.

At 41, was the American minister to France and negotiated commercial treaties with European nations along with Ben Franklin and John Adams.

At 46, served as the first Secretary of State under George Washington.

At 53, served as Vice President and was elected president of the American Philosophical Society.

At 55, drafted the Kentucky Resolutions and became the active head of Republican Party.

At 57, was elected the third president of the United States.

At 60 obtained the Louisiana Purchase doubling the nation's size.

At 61, was elected to a second term as President.

At 65, retired to Monticello.

At 80, helped President Monroe shape the Monroe Doctrine.

At 81, almost single-handedly created the University of Virginia and served as its first president.

At 83, died on the 50th anniversary of the Signing of the Declaration of Independence along with John Adams.

Jefferson studied the previous failed attempts at government. He understood actual history, the nature of God, his laws, and the nature of man. That happens to be way more than what most understand today. Jefferson really knew his stuff. A voice from the past to lead us in the future:

John F. Kennedy held a dinner in the White House for a group of the brightest minds in the nation at that time. He made this statement: "This is perhaps the assembly of the most intelligence ever to gather at one time in the White House with the exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone."

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." (Sound Familiar)
Thomas Jefferson

"It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes, a principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world."
Thomas Jefferson

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
Thomas Jefferson

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government."
Thomas Jefferson

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."
Thomas Jefferson

Post on Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:05 pm by Cyrellys

Excerpt, quoting Katy Perry:

“I look up into the stars and I imagine: How self-important are we to think that we are the only life-form? I mean, if my relationship with Obama gets any better, I’m going to ask him that question. It just hasn’t been appropriate yet," she said."



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Let the Disinformation Begin
Sorcha Faal ( is a highly sophisticated disinformation site. Its ownership and funding source is unknown, and the site constantly publishes elaborate articles mixing fact and fiction with recent events to create elaborate conspiracy threads. Often these articles will appear only hours after an event has taken place. This may well be a serious cointelpro propaganda operation.

Three years ago I received an email from a colleague with information excerpted here:

Before I go into this subject in any great depth, I would first like to deal with Sorcha Faal, otherwise known as David Booth of the CIA. David Booth works within the Central Intelligence Agency in COINTELPRO. Other western intelligence agencies known for using COINTELPRO methods include MI5, MI6, GCHQ, and the thinktank, DEMOS. To be quite blunt, all intelligence agencies have their own COINTELPRO departments.

Sorcha Faal does not exist. There is no "spokesperson" within the GRU named Sorcha Faal. Intelligence agencies rarely make public statements, and when they do, it is always through either someone in the highest echelons of the organisation or a government minister with the correct clearances, and never a mere "spokesperson".

Do leaks ever happen through lesser agents? Yes, but those agents if caught are dealt with very strictly, usually with "Holy Orders" to keep their traps shut. By rights, if "Sorcha Faal" was really working within the GRU, she/he would have been silenced by now. Permanently.

It appears that David Booth is a major thorn in the side of the Alternative Intelligence Community, as well as the Patriot and Truth Movements. This is a gross understatement. Over the past week or two I have had to take aside many people and let them in on the whole Sorcha Faal thing.

Known sites run by Sorcha Faal / David Booth:

Known sites that Sorcha Faal / David Booth writes for:

I have not been able to fully corroborate this assessment, but the website's disinformation basis is self-evident. I encourage any researchers reading this to consider digging into the the Faal website, its ownership and financing. It is time to bring the hammer down on this corner of the truth embargo.

Why am I bringing this up at this time?

On January 11 Sorcha Faal published the following article: Snowden Documents Proving US-Alien-Hitler" Link Stuns Russia

This article ties ETs, Edward Snowden, NAZI Germany with Paul Hellyer in a typical manner designed to diminish the credibility of the target, which I believe to be Hellyer. The article is about 10% fact and 90% crap.

As sometimes happens, perhaps when it suits a government's agenda, this article was picked up by a more mainstream venue. The Fars News Agency news service in Iran just happened to republish an article based on the Faal material. From there the story went mainstream and the disinformation from Sorcha Faal was republished by: Forbes, The Washington Post, The Examiner, The Blaze, The Jerusalem Post, UPI, Huffington Post with more likely to follow. The most egregious instance of this outrageous journalism was a piece by Max Fisher in the Washington Post - Iranian news agency says the U.S. is secretly run by Nazi space aliens. Really.

Let's be clear. The Post's coverage of ET/Disclosure issues has been mostly dismal for decades and will ultimately be a huge black mark on its legacy. But the above article is beyond the pale. Apparently Fisher does not know how to use Google. He has presented information to Post readers that is from a known disinformation site. He has served up sewerage and should be fired or reprimanded.

Given the timing just one month before PRG is set to launch its Congressional Hearing Initiative, this may be the first indication elements within the government are going to try to undermine the Initiative by injecting disinfo designed to elevate the ridicule factor.

So let the disinformation begin. PRG is going back to Capitol Hill to get congressional hearings for the scores of military/agency/political witnesses of rank and station ready to testify under oath. Any member of Congress stupid enough to drink the government's Kool-Aid will be ignored, and those who can think for themselves will be engaged.

Stephen Bassett
PRG Executive Director

[Feel free to republish this commentary.]

Developments of Interest

PRG Award
The LA Conscious Life Expo has announced that Coast to Coast AM and Beyond Belief host George Noory will present a lifetime achievement award to PRG Executive Director Stephen Bassett for his Disclosure advocacy work. The presentation will be part of a special event on Saturday, February 8 from 6 to 7:30 pm at the LAX Hilton.


Jan 20 (2 days ago)

to -------------- (name withheld)

Ok, again, let's see if I can do this coherently because I have so many thoughts on all this going on right now. This is a continuation of the last email commenting on the Irish aspect.

I think there are elements in here of Bassett being both right and wrong BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN THE WAY HE THINKS HE'S RIGHT.

The Nazis were involved in TEPs. Technology Exchange Program. It was moved by the Jesuits to Argentina at the end of the war (Richter/Borman) where it went underground. The creation of the CIA was done by an ex-nazi and operation paperclip et al was part of the mix that resulted in several strands ranging from NASA, to nukes, to the military industrial complex that Eisenhower freaked out about after handing the Contact Paradigm with the Grey's and the Tall Whites over to them.

It is true that not everything about the non-fanciful portion of the Contact Paradigm involves post-war nazism. It is also true that not everything about globalism involves marxism/fabian socialism. The left right paradigm is like laws which are for surface dwelling mainstream media zombies. The factionalized substrata with all their compartmentalization and blurred boundaries and interservice workforce of technocrats and the competing interests in their thinktanks and corporatotic hierarchies are ruled by policy. Like following the money to figure things out, you must to this add follow the policy and don't be surprised when the policy wears more than one set of pants at the same time but still shows its glow-in-the-dark butt crack. "We can see you Karl! It's embarassing Karl." Geico commercial with antelope and night vision goggles, ring a bell?

It is 100% accurate to say that IC (intelligence community - which is not limited to the traditional acronym agencies) uses internet forums, and organizations with "plausible deniability" built in for "fail-safe" purposes to hold cross boundary dialogs with other groups, to find and influence other groups, and to make public statements true or not. But it is ALSO 100% true that just because they are system inhabitants that they do not always know what is going on fully at any given point in time and immune from putting 2 + 2 together to get an answer and publish it as 7.5 according to the USGS who then turns and adjusts it for accuracy to 6.67 if you catch my illustration. Being who they are does not make them right, and sometimes it is the other way around. Sometimes it is us who don't know the deal.

I have found that much of the stuff that the public, the ufology community, and researchers/observers take note of that doesn't mesh well or doesn't make a whole lot of sense, doesn't because it is not actually directed at them. In other words it makes sense to someone and if it doesn't to you, it might be because you were not the intended recipient. You just happen to be the guy between the bulldozer and the freight train catching the barrels of bs getting tossed back and forth for purposes you are not directly involved in.

For example this:

They are not real patriot sites. And the dialog is not what the commentator's at those sites think it is. I explain in my two cents at the bottom of my post my impression of what is going on. It looks like a classic evolutional arm-twisting exercise.


The huge mistake Bassett is making in his "shut Sorcha down" statement is that he won't get rid of it. There's nothing he can do to totally eliminate how they are going about things. But knowledge is power. He hates not having the ability to influence what is going on. But his lack of effectiveness is largely because he is still thinking like a high schooler. He thinks we elect representatives who go to DC to do our bidding. nah, nah that died over 2 decades ago. It's gone and until the corruption is dealt with on a grand scale he ain't getting it back. So he needs to learn how the system works NOW and make good use of it! So burning bridges is about the dumbest thing he could do.

Look in what goofy world does a message get passed through a factionally controlled communication device ABOUT PLANETARY LEVEL CONTROL/OPERATIONS which gets sent out through an Iranian asset(?) i.e. Fars which then gets parroted back out into the noosphere, which then gets picked up and parroted again by Washington Post? No one out there is THAT retarded. Not the Iranians sitting on real estate with post-cataclysmic global planetary civilization chunks lying all over the place. Not a communication device that has functioned for as long or perhaps longer than I have been online and puts out more compilations whether right or wrong, than even my energetic little noodle could manage on my best year. Not the Washington Post who has historically over this same time frame been the communication device for elements in the US State Department regardless of being right or wrong at any given time. This is one of the few times I will stress what is important here is not specifically the content of the communication device, but the WHO is speaking.

I think Bassett misses the boat on this. He's too busy wanting his carrot to look left and right. Jake Reason caught what happened dead on. Check each of his three or four posts on OMF about 01/14/14 and its importance. I missed it because as usual the day something really interesting happens I'm tied up doing something mundane like grocery shopping.

Ok, let me think a bit more and see if there's more to add. But I'm sending this off to you now.

Gotta do a quick chore. Back in a bit.



Jan 20 (2 days ago)

to ----------------- (name withheld)

Ok I'm back. Bear with me an I hope I don't bore you.

One thing I have noticed about researchers, bystanders, and so on is that they get so seriously caught up in who someone is these days, generally like Bassett because they have a bone to pick about the corruption and truth embargo (not even realizing 98% of surface government is uninformed anyway), that they get a hold of some communication device and shake it like a rag doll crowing the whole while that they got a liar by the pants! String him up from the nearest tree, criminal, he ain't even a real whistleblower! There is no such thing as an insider, because no one inside knows what is really going on, they declare, thus promoting the meme that whistleblowers are automatically traitors to be skewered and thrown on the bbq to sizzle.

Well geez folks. I hate to be the bearer of bad newz but I'm estimating maybe 80% of the so called experts out there possibly better, wouldn't know the difference between a whistleblower and a communication device (asset) if their life depended on it or perhaps even recognize one if it ran them over with a steam roller. People assume "truth" and "accuracy" are a prerequisite when that if the most remote requirement they have.

Here, there are competing and hostile factions within the system. And they do things with law and policy, uses which they twist up so badly it makes a preztle look tame. If any reader of this needs an example, consider the very publicly posted signs for Area 51 which everyone knew about before Congress Critters did, in which if you tresspass they can shoot you on a place where the most you will see above ground are lights of craft (either air, space, or exotic) which you could see on any give day you please in places like Gulf Breeze Florida. Big Whoop. Is everyone so easily entertained they miss something this obvious? In a REPUBLIC?! Sigh.

Look at it this way. Someone on that side of the paradigm is willing to shoot some ignorant joy-passer for rubber-necking at UFOs on government property THEIR taxes pay for when the paradigm is many many decades ahead of them and continues to pick up speed? If they will do that to the modern day caveman, just think about what twisted things they do to each other! Shooting is certainly on the list. And a war rages around you. And the info put out by compartmentalized system inhabitants is off kilter and looks like a nutcase threw it together to spend a decade or more taking up space on an internet that alternative news roams like the Wild West and controlled fascism thinks needs to be shutdown, revamped, filtered, you name it and whistleblowers should be shot on site right along with the mediators who enable them to be heard. And then everyone wonders why no one has disclosed anything, or communication devices put out information that makes no sense or is filled with disinformation! It is generally upon close observation, a matter of CYA. Fail Safe. Or part of the pot shots and manipulation and arm twisting they do to each other to achieve some result.

All fun and games to them, ha, ha, ha....even when everyone else doesn't see the amusement in it. SOSDD.

Maybe....till now.

See I know a little something. While the various ideas they've toyed with about a "project blue-beam" scenario are real enough, and a certain sectare of these shadow peons working for the factionalized globalist culture behind them are hunting and testing for way's to depopulate to the 'desired' degree, they're using "the name" of someone else to do it. Not using them themselves, but the idea of them. And it seems, ET doesn't like being used that way. And we are coming up on a proposed D-Day. ET, the REAL ET, told them a number of years ago (not us, not the general population, but rather the PtB) to KNOCK IT OFF. "You are not allowed to depopulate using weapons of mass destruction" And this includes things like False Flags like Fukashima, Genetically Modified Organisms (Terminator Seeds & Biologicals & Chemspraying), etc. For those who didn't get that particular memo. Have they "stood-down"? No.

And they wanted a chunk of ET's action. They (the ptb) want to be part of the "greater community". Thing is, one of the requirements is a "Global Government". Interesting in that, they (system inhabitants/need to know) didn't have that as yet, but the Old Guard Feudal Globalist faction had been working on such a set up...for them by them not for the people by the people. And ethics, maturity, and planetary stewardship is also in that list of requirements but I think either the message got garbled or the globals figure they can continue to mask corruption with public approval and control of the population. And oh it will be so much easier to do all that if "oops" happens after all, proving the ptb right by default.


As I understand the history I was taught (returning to family tales of the darkside), this is along the same lines as what happened before that ended in a global conflict. The idiots by ignoring or trying to destroy the THIRD OPTION which was designed to do a good deal more than just create a nation, are instead sliding into the exact same situation that happened last time and they are repeating history.

The oft made statement by the Globalist Types: Oathkeepers are just rightwing political extremists. They are dangerous and ignorant and generally bad. Watch out for them. They must be disarmed.

Oh how little those speakers realize.


Post on Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:27 pm by Cyrellys

With unambiguous contact on our doorstep, the old guard globals trying to set up the book of Revelations Armaggedeon, the situation with Russians and Chinese and now muslims in the US for the coming conflict all at the same time, the different factions will pull their tools out of stasis to be on hand for the unending questions and issues they are not equipped to deal with.

Did you know UNESCO has added five NEW sites to their most protected status (treaty for sites of historic importance to all of humanity in the event of war)? More proof of our post tech civilizational status 5000 years ago just after the fall and planetary war, AND the declaration of policy we've been discussing courtesy of FARS News via Sorcha Faal, essentially affirmed by the Washington Post who parroted it....Washington Post, yeah THE Washington Post the communication device for the US State Department. And MD is getting really weird vibes lately, am I surprised? no.

Did you catch my mention that both the terms in the moniker Sorcha Faal is not russian but Old Irish? I noticed that in 2007 when the org was putting out commentary on the Minot AFB event. It was weird then and is still weird now, to me at least.

Very key all that....and so is the discussion in this video:


About the interview by Moore with Hodges in the video posted above,

It is kinda long but info packed so I'm not reposting it here. Allow yourself some time to read it.

Post on Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:29 pm by Cyrellys


Post on Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:37 pm by Cyrellys

Update on Ernie, courtesy of Elias Alias of Montana

Just last year Nov/Dec shot by Elias:

Via Email Today:

Please enjoy the resurrected spirit of Henry David Thoreau, Lysander Spooner, and many other great American philosophers, as it resurfaces, a bit gritty like good ground should be, in the person of one Ernie Wayne TerTelgte, of Three Forks, Montana.

Elias says: My comment, which will likely be buried soon, is reproduced here:

Ernie poses questions which should be looked into more closely. He gives me things to think about, and for that I'm grateful to know the man. Ernie is not a stereotype, cannot be conveniently cubby-holed into a popularly conceived classification, does not conform to anything other than the pure spirit of non-conformity, which is a trait bearing spiritual fruit for destined futures in his life, methinks. And yes, he is a friend, a man who honors his word, who extends his hand to help anyone in need, and a good neighbor. When my old Ford pickup truck breaks down, I call Ernie. His studies have taken him into areas which I've failed to investigate myself, and some of his conclusions I hold to be questionable in my own perception, while others are to me self-evident and obvious. Of particular interest to me, as I am a writer, is Ernie's passion for etymology - seeking knowledge of the root meanings in words, the history of words, and the social and cultural and historic import the study of words reveals to the scholar. I have a great admiration for Ernie's research into many interesting words.

One good question - Is it true that a public servant in Montana must show proof of one's bond, upon request? Is a judge, a prosecuting attorney, a Sheriff, or other public official, required to obtain a bond before acting in an official capacity? Is that Montana Law, or not? And if one does obtain, and file record of, one's lawfully-required bond, is one not obligated to show proof of said bond upon request by a citizen in one's jurisdiction? If it is the law, and if such named officers failed to obtain their required bonds, or refused to show proof of bond when asked by a citizen who is seeking discovery in preparation to a court action, what should we the people make of that? What should the State of Montana make of that?

Ernie has asked several involved persons for proofs of their bonds, which are legally required in Montana, and which the involved persons are required under law to produce upon request. None has thus far come forward with said proof of bond. Yet all of them hold Ernie in contempt for not governing his personal actions in accordance with the demands of said public officials.

Is this justice? In the Age of Information, when everyone (except Ernie!) seems to have an online computer, the truth will no longer be repressed or suppressed, and we all know it. Will anyone reading this for a second dare say that corruption does not exist in the American judicial system? If corruption exists in our court system and its enforcement system, can we expect that corruption to admit its guilt? And in the face of corruption's refusal to confess its corrupt ways, what is left to the just and moral majority of good people who seek satisfaction untoward their legitimate grievance?

It harks back to long-dead visionaries who pondered this question: Is the law to serve mankind, or is mankind to serve the law? The Constitution for the united States of America says it's to serve "We The People". So we may now always remember - a person working for "law enforcement" is of the government, while a person working as a "peace officer" is of the people. Show me where I'm wrong about that.

Elias Alias, Montana Oath Keepers

End Quote. Cy

Post on Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:21 pm by Cyrellys

So who and how many of you watched the videos about Ernie posted above, or Elias's comment?

Some of you did not or will not because you make the mistake of thinking it has nothing to do with the Contact Paradigm or the problem of Communication, the problem of Disclosure, and/or the problem of the corruption which has been a busy little hive of bees building a guilded tyranny to deal with everyone till they have the strength to finish off all the "useless eaters".

Now I echo Elias's comment that I know Ernie (not as long as Elias but I met him roughly two years ago in person) as an honorable man who is well studied in our history and Constitutional Republic.  And while I don't know if I believe everything he says is true, I can agree with Elias that Ernie poses some important and necessary questions.  

Now those of you who watched the videos and read Elias's comment are echoing those who did not, that this still seems to be unrelated to the Contact Paradigm, and our current situational landscape.  To this I say, NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.

I will to the best of my ability explain.

Get ready to scream at me -- at least till you finish reading this commentary, at the end of which I hope you recede just a hair to a state of thoughtfulness.  

The life you live is a FICTION.

It has been carefully scripted for you over more than a century!  

Now I won't proclaim myself some expert in what Ernie is saying, but I've learned just enough to be dangerous.  I've learned that the roots of how and why the System Inhabitants at the behest of the Shadow Governance, and the current overt corruption in the surface governance can get away with doing what they've been doing.  Why they think they can justify doing things in the name of National Security, and public safety; things which are usurpation's of power which exceed the limits upon power contained within the Constitution which they call 'outdated'.

You have a truth embargo and a civilization built upon a fiction because they have been operating according to a 'color of law'.

What Ernie is describing and experiencing is a clear illustration by someone who is learned enough in what our founders attempted to prevent, to lead you through to understanding the ways in which your world has been twisted and conscripted.

Only by understanding what you have lost, in what way your world has been altered can you then be properly equipped to seek solutions and resolution to your problems.

This is why all who have fought and questioned to fix the truth embargo have as yet failed.  It is because you did not understand the depth of the problem.

Begin by understanding who and what you are.  The Natural Man.  Strip away all trappings of property and political correctness, all color of law and policy, all ignorance and faux belief and you will find a Natural Person, with Natural Rights, and in doing so you will begin to crumble the cage you have been raised in.

"Help them remember who they are!" pleaded the big man in dark suit with searching eye and the last shred of hope.  He would not live to see the day the people remember.  But he had the courage to ask.  And the Source had already answered.


Edit To Add:

Cy wrote:I've learned that the roots of how and why the System Inhabitants at the behest of the Shadow Governance, and the current overt corruption in the surface governance can get away with doing what they've been doing. Why they think they can justify doing things in the name of National Security, and public safety; things which are usurpation's of power which exceed the limits upon power contained within the Constitution which they call 'outdated'.

From the follow up on the Moore interview of Dave Hodges:

Dave Hodges wrote:The extra-constitutional “agreements”(that means illegal agreements), between Russia and FEMA were inked late last spring in Washington, D.C., at the fourth annual meeting of the illegally created “U.S.-Russia Bilateral Presidential Commission Working Group on Emergency Situations.” This extra-governmental organization, formed under the Obama administration, is one of almost two dozen similar “working groups” bringing together top U.S. and Russian officials. These two bodies are cooperating on everything from the drug war and agriculture to terror, science, “rule of law” (could that be code for martial law?), health, environment, energy, nuclear issues, education, culture, media, business, arms control, and more, according to the U.S. State Department. The Senate has not ratified any of the international deals, as required by the Constitution of the United States. And as such, this is an illegal agreement. However, this is not just an illegal agreement, IT CONSTITUTES TREASON AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

The agreement calls for Russian troops to engage in policing activities at American public events on American soil. And we are seeing the same thing at the Army base at Fort Carson, Colorado where Russian soldiers are training at the local base and are engaged in local policing activities.

According to the locals who have contacted me, the Russians walk freely in Alaskan cities in full view of the residents. Amanda Mitchell, from Ketchikan, Alaska, has seen Russian troops in full uniform walking the streets of her town. Did you know that Obama gave away seven Islands to Russia in a supreme act of treason?

Lots more to read here:

and these connections are not lost on everyone...

UFO Sightings U.S. Senator Says Snowden Is a Hero & UFO Disclosure Is Near Exclusive Watch Now! Part 1 Dr. J Andy Ilias, and Blake Cousins interview Senator Michael Gravel In Regards to Area 51 Snowden, and Osama Bin Ladin, and the UFO Cover Up! Jan 19, 2014 Thirdphaseofmoon radio had a historical show when retired Senator Mike Gravel joined Blake & Brent Cousins along with Dr. J to discuss disclosure & all aspects of the UFO phenomenon. Being the senior member of the panel on the citizen hearing on disclosure, Senator Gravel came in with an open mind & left convinced that we are being engaged by an extraterrestrial race & it is being covered up the world governments. Hear this & so much more, plus Dr. Roger Leir joining the group as a special guest caller.


Post on Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:22 pm by Bard


I watched the fist video about a month ago. I will catch up when time permits... I was fighting a headache all day. The Source? I wish everything was so certain....

Like this evening for example (headache resolved) showering in a lit bathroom and a small shadow passes by the curtain. I peek out, nothing..... I just laughed, said a prayer for the little thing, wondering if it fell as it exited as I hear one of the pack strumming guitar, singing poorly in the other room.

Yes, its that odd... Sometimes. Bugbusters be on alert. Ya just never know these days. I'm in the belief the paranormal can be mimicked as well - so no sense in caring if a passerby pops in/out.

I'll just chalk it up to the MK's Or that I'm trapped In time somewhere.

I still have to cook, clean, and go to work. Big deal.

Post on Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:05 pm by Cyrellys

Bard wrote:Cy:

I watched the fist video about a month ago. I will catch up when time permits... I was fighting a headache all day. The Source? I wish everything was so certain....

Like this evening for example (headache resolved) showering in a lit bathroom and a small shadow passes by the curtain. I peek out, nothing..... I just laughed, said a prayer for the little thing, wondering if it fell as it exited as I hear one of the pack strumming guitar, singing poorly in the other room.

Yes, its that odd... Sometimes. Bugbusters be on alert. Ya just never know these days. I'm in the belief the paranormal can be mimicked as well - so no sense in caring if a passerby pops in/out.

I'll just chalk it up to the MK's  Or that I'm trapped In time somewhere.

I still have to cook, clean, and go to work. Big deal.

Yes Source. I have no trouble differentiating between types/origins of experiences. But I realize not everyone can say the same. Paranormal experiences are not limited to one origin. This is a large part of the confusion that is rampant. Many hands in the one cookie jar.


Post on Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:40 pm by Cyrellys

Go SC!

Post on Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:20 pm by Cyrellys

"Oddly, unlike Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel, and Russia, the U.S. and the U.K. are the only powers acting in the Middle East that do not take any special interest in the safety of those with whom they have a historical religious affinity."

Maybe because those in the US & UK calling the shots are not Christian. Period. Hark back to articles about muslim brotherhood in the US administration. And Zero's affiliation with marxism & fabian socialism & transhumanism


And a bit more from the first link:

These are the lands in which Jesus' apostles and their disciples made some of the first Christian converts. In an interview, West pointed out that these communities "were Christian when our ancestors were worshipping trees and stones." Now they are in danger of imminent extinction.

In 2013, Raphael I Sako, the Chaldean Patriarch of Baghdad, said the following at his installation homily, "Still the shadow of fear, anxiety, and death is hanging over our people." He warned: "If emigration continues, God forbid, there will be no more Christians in the Middle East. It will be no more than a distant memory." West's book is a sobering reminder that Western policy has helped shape this grim fate for Middle Eastern Christians — and Western silence allows it to continue. - The Week: The world's most ancient Christian communities are being destroyed — and no one cares

All part of the situation.



Post on Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:31 pm by Cyrellys

The Olympic games are very high profile event with multi-national participation. Any attack, terrorist event or disruption at Sochi, whether a false-flag or “real world” action, would be viewed as an attack on the “world’s” Olympic games, not just against Russia. Considering everything that has gone into the planning of the games and preparation of the venue, in this case to the tune of a reported $50 billion, Sochi provides itself as a near-perfect venue for such an event, which needn’t be large scale. A smaller attack or the mere discovery of a plot having a significant potential would likely be sufficient to enable Russian President Vladimir Putin to gain popular support at home and globally.

We’ve already seen a number of disconcerting things take place in the run-up to the games that should serve as indicators of potential problems. Most telling, perhaps, is that the Saudi Intelligence Minister, Prince Bandar bin Sultan visited Putin last August and again in December, 2013. It is well known that Bandar, also known as “Bandar Bush,” speaks for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. He told Putin that the Saudis would not authorize or support any terror attacks during the Olympics, but they could stop such attacks under the right circumstances.


Now where have I heard this before?


article continues:

"What was the message in that statement, and specifically, what circumstances were being referenced? Through Bandar, the Saudis delivered a backward threat over Syria and the future of President Assad. They are strong-arming Putin over Syria, pushing him into a corner to keep him from overtly backing Assad by military and other means by using the threat of terrorism during the Olympics as a bargaining chip. The Saudis are basically telling Putin to stop providing material support to Assad. Failure to comply means that they won’t stop terror attacks at the games, over which they appear to have certain control. On one hand, this could not have pleased Putin. On the other hand, it appears to have given Putin a definitive suspect, a solid alibi, and a “free pass” of sorts relative to a terror act or incident at the Olympics.

Those who have followed my reports on Benghazi and its relevance to overthrowing Assad understand that Syria holds strategic military and economic importance to Russia. We also know that Putin has questioned the motives of the West (U.S. and U.S. led NATO, the British, French, the Saudis and even Israel) from the Arab Spring through present day Syria. The world has seen the chaos that resulted from the Arab Spring and Putin does not want Syria to descend into the same chaos via the installation of a Muslim Brotherhood regime.

So, the Olympics are being used as a bargaining chip by the Saudis to ties Putin’s hands, at least until the Olympics are over. Putin has so far been reserved in his responses, or perhaps he is actually being calculating rather than reserved."


I was right about what was posted on those two faux patriot sites...about arm-twisting the russians. And the correlation to the 'foreign policy' declaration?


AND THERE's ALOT MORE in the article including this:

"Considering this situation, it is possible that Putin, who thinks of himself as a Russian John Wayne, could very well look the other way in the face of a terror threat, even allowing a false-flag operation to take place. As noted, the not-so-thinly veiled threat by the Saudis has given Putin a free pass of sorts, the ability or the rare opportunity (plausibility) to blame the Saudis and by extension, the West, and specifically Obama, causing them to appear weak, indecisive and slow to act against terrorist organizations. In that sense, it’s difficult to imagine him not to take advantage of this opportunity."

Emminetizing the Eschaton still?


Post on Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:16 pm by Cyrellys


Post on Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:56 pm by Cyrellys

compare definitions of artificial person and natural person. Consider where free will and how it is involved.

Post on Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:04 am by Cyrellys

A book I would like to lay hands on and read:  Ever Ancient Ever New - Celtic Spirituality in the 20th Century by Delores T Whelan

and more on Pelagius and Pelagianism

particularly as pertains to comparison with Deism and concepts employed by the Founders & the Old Irish side of the concept of the Third Option

"Let them also read my recent little treatise which we were obliged to publish a short while ago in defense of free will,
and let them acknowledge how unfair is their determination to disparage us for a denial of grace, when we throughout
almost the whole work acknowledge fully and sincerely both free will and grace." ~ Pelagius

I've been looking at the roots of the ideas that formed the Third Option in its many facets. I traced some of those ideas back to several sets

There were in the early broadcasts of these ideas several groups of people whose experiences went into them:

The Ascetic Tradition with the Ionians, Cistercian, and Ceile De groups who mixed to varying degrees] with the living tradition the druidic led older culture. Ideas from these groups can be found in both the Laconian contribution and the Mason/Templar.

Well, looking over these groups brought up a discovery of an accusation made in 314 at the Council of Arles which showed something peculiar in the beliefs of monastic leaders of the Isles.

That at least some of those from the Isles present may have been open practitioners of Pelagian concepts which focused on the concept of Free Will existing and working in tandem with Grace. Something we see in the beliefs of several of the Founders and in the principles that are part of the operation of the Third Option.

Not being what anyone could call well read in biblical or doctrinal arguments, I stumbled across this one completely by accident, following synchronistic bread crumbs of recreational inquiry. The short description is that I had a 'wow' moment as I looked at an accusation attributed to Germanus of Auxarre leveled at the british contingent attending the event.


Post on Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:13 am by Cyrellys

NYTimes: Human Beings Not Made for Space

Is this proof NYTimes has an Imagination under 110?

Why can I ask such a question?

Answer:  because not being made for this or that has never stopped us from doing the seemingly impossible.  Not for long anyway.  

Do remember we are not equipped for flying either and yet...we have have adrenaline junkies who base jump, strap themselves into fighter jets that fly at speeds that can make you the proverbial bug on the windshield(squish), and astronauts who will do any training under the sun and allow themselves to be launched in a rocket to get a shot at experiencing zero gravity up in the International Space Station. 

Human beings not made for space.  Is that the only problem getting it done?  Well that's fixable.  If we don't have the technology, we'll eventually dream it up because there's nothing an Earthling hates hearing more than the terms no or can't.  Those are not real words in Earth's vocabulary...nay they are challenges to mental combat of ideas.

Now someone get the naysayer out of the way and let the guy with the screwdriver and gleam in his eye through the door of the workshop.

Edit to add:

And you know what?  This might also be a strong argument for making the teaching of physics and engineering to rednecks a national priority.  Why?  Because they have a reputation for being the best at finding the most excellent and outrageous methods to commit suicide!  And is not this the brand of insane innovation Earthlings have proven themselves best at?

Someone round up a bevy of half-crazed rednecks, we have a challenge for them.  Betcha can't do this.....

God Bless naysayers and the NYTimes when they inform us of our inequities and neglected epiphanies, without whom we'd never invent new ways to accomplish what someone said was impossible.

One moment please, I have a wild-eyed thinker espousing a bad hair day working on your problem now.  We'll have your solution for you shortly.

Post on Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:06 am by Cyrellys

Email to Speakeasy Group 01-28-14:

This following work, is what my speech of January 28 2014 would have included had time allowed. For those who were not quite sure as to my purpose and organization in the original early morning effort, or those who simply wished to know more, I hope this clarifies.  I thank all of you who suffer through my attempts at learning the skill of speaking from a state of beginning with less than no skill. One could wish every public speaker had such a great set of examples to follow as you. And additional thank you to everyone who took the time to write out comments on the morning speech.  Cy

01/28/2014 Speech #3

Table of Contents
Title: Why Does Extraterrestrial Contact Matter?
Purpose: To Inform
Bibliography (End Notes)

Re-Arrangement for time constraints: Written form – none. No time constraint.

Good morning Mr Toastmaster and fellow Toastmasters,

I'm here today to speak with you about why Extraterrestrial Contact matters. As an exopolitician, this question is the most common question I encounter from laymen in the field. Extraterrestrial Contact matters because of all the issues, which drive the questions, events and evolution of our world today, this is the most influential. It is important to every person within this nation because our ability to self-govern as a Republic is hand-tied if we are uninformed about the existence of this profound influence.  This in turn has a profound effect on our definition of who we are as a people, both individually and collectively.  

Consider:  You are now a character in the last book you read.  Who are you?

Since the public, which must give consent to govern, will be unable to recognize and responsibly respond to dialog and events related to the contact paradigm, it misses out on the importance of pieces of information which are a result of the actions and reactions of those who are informed.

For example, most people have no idea that on January 14, 2014 history was made. What the public missed, on the 14th, was a public confirmation ofdeclaration that U.S. Domestic and International Policy is driven by 'an alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda'.i It would have been more fully noticed and understood if the public at large had been present to know ET had passed a message to the Powers That Be (PTB) in 2008 through an inter-service group communicating the following message, “You are not allowed to reduce the population using weapons of mass destruction.”ii

We are a Republic! It is the consent of the governed provided to elected officials which is to conduct the business of this nation, yet the pink elephant beneath grandma's skirt, has spawned a 2nd form of government, known in exopolitics asShadow Government, consisting in-part of inter-relational influence by 50 of the globe's most financially endowed corporations. The public facing the greatest rise in questions over individual and governmental conduct since 1775, understands that there are many problems conventionally, but since they are uninformed, they have no means to evaluate if they are equipped to address questions pertaining to individual and government conduct  related in any fashion to extraterrestrial contact regardless of if the conduct in question is originating from the common system or the shadow system.

For instance, someone who is uninformed would not understand the implications of the following quote, “Armageddon draws nigh. It is presaged by the cauldron of post modernism. There are two possibilities, 1. Physical Armageddon or 2. Metaphysical Armageddon” Dan Smith, physicist;  Virginia January 28, 2014; Open Minds Forum; remarks on a pending paradigm event believing it will take some catastrophic form due to the current intellectual and spiritual condition of the people of this planet.

Headlines are passed over because the public is unable to recognize the relation to be seen, as with the following:   “Watch Obama's Mentor Confronted on his 'Re-Education Camps'.” Bill Ayers, Weather Underground, or the equally enigmatic headline, FEMA soliciting companies for “Motor coach evacuation of general population.”iii

This unnatural truth embargo operating in our midst strips from America her ability to evaluate policy, ethics, and moral presentation in all acts and dialog. It stripped from America her ability to recognize the historic series of events which occurred this month.

Had that embargo not been in place, the population which still believes it is self-governing would have seen the following pattern:

2008 UN Meeting Event communicated to a limited working group of interested individuals, in real time. Content of message/event involves: ET sends a message to planetary PTB about not being allowed to depopulate the planet using weapons of mass destruction, including an order to disclose the existence of ET or ET will disclose for them.iv A deadline is given with the outcome of message.

December 10, 2013 John Podesta returns to the White House – he's a staunch supporter of Disclosure. “The truth is out there Dave.”v

Early January 2014 RT (Russia Today) interviews Paul Hellyer, Ret. of Canada – Raw Storyvi , RT videovii or hereviii Openly speaks about extraterrestrial contact and Charles Hall's experiences.

January 11, 2014 Instigator,, a notorious intelligence community back-channel communications tool, publishes a compilation of information including notations about documents which provide a declaration that extraterrestrial contact influences US domestic and foreign policyix

January 12, 2014 Iran sponsored FARS news agency publishes commentary on the piecex Quote: “In Snowden’s own words, this report continues, he outlined to Greenwald the reason for his highly secretive group obtaining and releasing these documents by warning that that there were actually two governments in the US: the one that was elected, and the other, secret regime, governing in the dark.” xi

January 12, 2014 Political Strategist notes Orly Tate & Co. is closing in on Obama: "Things are so not clear for me .... but I seem to have come to be OK with it . Its amazing . I spent 2 days with some very patriotic men . Remember Michael Peroutka ? And Sheriff Richard Mack ? Was at a banquet with those guys . Both are right in the middle of this spiritual battle. Orly filed her brief in time here in the state of Md. and Mack is gathering his posse . They are all meeting in LV . Sheriff Joe is gathering them all together in Phoenix in Feb . Its getting close to Game Time . Zullo said he was going to shock the world March I am trying to go so I'll know in Feb.
Always in Liberty, xxxxxxxxxxx" xii

January 14, 2014 Washington Post publishes article: “Iranian News Agency says US is Secretly Run by Nazi Space Aliens. Really.” As a regularly used news site by the US State Department to make under-the-table comments on reactive governmental policies and events, Washington Posts commentary on the FARSnewsagency piece constituted confirmation via back-channel with the usual plausible deniability built-in.xiii

January 14, 2014 Secretary of State John Kerry, the top authority on US policy, meets with the Secretary of State for the Vaticanxiv The Vatican having made their stance on extraterrestrial contact clear in proximity to the 2008 UN event, and in several subsequent statements in the years since, is pro-Disclosure.

January 14, 2014 Dr Michael Salla of the Exopolitics Institute weighs in on the Washington Post articlexv “The U.S. and other world media dutifully followed the Post’s lead and began running their own stories. Forbes, Jerusalem Post,UPI, Huffington Post, The Blaze and other news sources were now covering the Iranians’ stunning claim.” (active links in quote see source)

January 14, 2014 Israeli news publishes an official statement concerning the confusing behavior of US policy: "Israel's Defence Minister has accused the Secretary of State John Kerry - of operating from an incomprehensible obsession and a sense of Messianism."xvi

January 16th 2014 Steven Bassett, Paradigm Research, publishes a hostile hit piece titled “Let the Disinformation Begin” on the piece and calls for aka Sorcha Faal to be shut down.xvii

2 patriot sites publish articles; one (January 18, 2014) on US disarming of the general populationxviii and the one (January 10, 2014) is an arm twisting piecexixpossibly designed to goad Russia to attack Syria over the recent terrorist bombings, something Obama was unable to complete with the removal of 1, possibly 3 nukes from Dyess AFB TX in Septemberxx, where the black ops elements attempted to complete the mission to destroy Charleston Harborxxi, in an effort to blame Syria and effect a new conflict resulting in a fresh wave of oath-keeping military service people removed from America to be engulfed overseas in that conflict, beyond the reach of a pre-designed martial law situation here in the US making it possible to fully disarm the general population using foreign troops already stationed in-country. Two Generals, and One Admiral who intercepted those glass-makers and detonated one safely 560 miles off-shore in deep ocean – which seismically was registered by the Russians prompting a statement by Putin on the matter, were then relieved of duty and purged from their careers as so many others have been.xxii

January 19, 2014 Canadian business owner and Co-Admin of Open Minds Forum sums up concisely a portion of what is now happening: On 1/14/14 the globally colluding News Corporations published an announcement of these two Foreign Policies to within earshot of approx 1/5th of the world's population. xxiii

January 20th (approx), who published the original 2008 inter-service group event description, publishes a discerning piece on Charles Hall's Tall Whites which was part of the material contained in the January 11 piece on US policy in the Snowden documents.xxiv

Saturday January 25th, 2014 on the heels of all the purgingxxv and aftermath of the September 2013 Dyess incident Senator Tester “Backs nuclear forces review”, Great Falls Tribune Newspaper – Great Falls Montana. But he is 'confident' it won't impact the future of Malmstrom. Seriously.

All in one month.

For further information listen to this audio: 250,000 Chinese troops, land compensation, and nukes update – interview with Garrow

So. Why does extraterrestrial contact matter? What is that character in that proverbial book?  Who are we?  These questions, and so many others about our current human condition, plague us and it is of utmost import because the question of who we are as a people is tied up within it. We define ourselves as self-governing, yet everything about extraterrestrial contact as a covert influencestrips from us our ability to give or withhold consent to govern. It strips from us our ability to recognize events, influences, and patterns of conduct. It strips from us control over policy and laws. In this state of ambiguity it allows corruption to run rampant, and hands off control of our nation to people we barely understand and events we hear nothing about or do not recognize as significant.

In attending to the subject of extraterrestrial contact, we return to ourselves a small measure of meaningful comprehension with which to work toward governing ourselves once more. This is why it matters. In recognizing it matters we once again have the ability to define who we are as a people and re-take from the corrupt brokers of power the ability to wholly write our own story - for us, by us.

I have come to suspect, this restoration of power or empowerment was a part of the reason ET said, “Disclose to your people, or we will.” In a time when we stand upon the brink of completing the construction of a global governance, not of the people nor for the people, I can only imagine what consternation our inherent corruption, deceit within governance, and self-illusions creates in the Greater Community. The questions of our time and the evolution of our self-understanding matters; is meaningful because they are steps toward a more mature presentation of our selves as a people coming forward into a universe – as a world making a debut.

Finis.  FiOs.

Bibliography (End Notes)
iiUN Meeting, Open Minds Forum v.1 2008, Inter-service Group communication of real-time event.
ivUN Meeting, Open Minds Forum v.1 2008, Inter-service Group communication of real-time event.
xv Fisher’s conclusion is that claims of Nazi space aliens running the US is propaganda by Iran’s hardline factions to rule out cooperation with the U.S. in current nuclear negotiations. On the other hand, by giving the claims of the Fars News Agency serious coverage, the Washington Post was doing more than simply reveal the intransigence of Iran’s hardline factions. It was giving serious news coverage to claims that have been on fringe conspiracy websites for years. The US national security apparatus has been allegedly negotiating and colluding with space aliens for years according to multiple sources cited in Exposing US Government Policies on Extraterrestrial Life. If some of these sources are accurate, it is feasible that U.S. sovereignty has been seriously compromised. Now the Washington Post has made such controversial claims legitimate material for the Fourth Estate to examine in light of current nuclear negotiations between Iran and the world community. Whether propaganda, truth, or a mixture of both, the Washington Post’s examination of Fars News Agency claims of the U.S. being run by Nazi space aliens has sparked an international debate.


Post on Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:15 pm by Cyrellys

Steve this is to let everyone know that the recent string of "suicides" among bankers is a purge a tieing up of loose ends. The most recent being the exec over at Deutsche Bank and the exec at JPM who took a leap off the "33" floor of their London HQ.

These individuals were assassinated and there will be many more to come. Some you will hear as "suicides" others won't even make it to main stream media. This recent purge centers around the corruption and scandals of the derivative markets, LIBOR and the blantant fraud in precious metals!!!

This is the final year for sure as the house is being swept!!! Be prepared.

"V" The Guerilla Economist

Jan 29, 2014

Post on Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:18 pm by Cyrellys


Ice storm in Birmigham AL area hit by surprise yesterday. Announcements
from schools went out at 11AM that they were sending kids home but it was
too late. Buses couldn't run. Hills everywhere around here started
accumulating ice. Crashed cars and trucks everywhere and in ditches near
every hill and some in streams. I walked 2 hours to pick up daughter at the
high school. I got there faster walking then many did sitting stuck in
traffic. She has a 4x4 truck and we were able to help others get home. Many
stuck in schools, stores, churches, and in cars. Surprised at the number of
folks who don't travel with coats. Many walking without them back home even
in high heels in 17 degrees. Daughter now understands why I fuss to always
keep the gas tank full and keep blankets and more in the car. Deep freeze
to continue until tomorrow.

Jan 29, 2014

Post on Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:19 pm by Cyrellys

My wife who scoffs at prepping, saw the light. Once she got home (after 13 hours to drive 20 miles), she hugged me and said 'you were right all along'. I want a gun.

I live in West Georgia, about 40 miles from Atlanta. The surprise storm
caught everyone off guard, and driving became brutal. I saw absolute bedlam
and panic. People pounding on car windows demanding water or food, fights,
people hollering and screaming...insane. My youngest was crying and afraid.
Thank God the boys were with me and not trapped at a government school.
What would have happened had the event lasted 3 days? Or a nuke? Terrorism?
It was so insane, that my wife who scoffs at prepping, saw the light. Once
she got home (after 13 hours to drive 20 miles), she hugged me and said
"you were right all along. I want a gun." I am an 8th generation Georgian,
and I could not believe the actions of other "southern" people. When the
veneer of civilization goes, sanity goes. Keep up your good work.

Post on Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:03 pm by Cyrellys

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Post on Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:04 pm by Cyrellys

Democrat Says All Military Veterans are Mentally Ill » Eagle Rising

Obama Promises To Enact Gun Control Laws “With Or Without Congress”
Critics Respond: “He doesn’t have the constitutional authority to act unilaterally”

Tea Party favourite Stockman said Obama was promising to “break his oath of office and begin enacting his own brand of law through executive decree.”
“This is a wholesale violation of his oath of office and a disqualifying offense,” the Texas congressman said.
Other Republicans took a similar stance. “Unfortunately, what I heard from President Obama tonight was hostility toward our foundational principles, condescension toward a co-equal branch of government, and a general aversion to common sense and bipartisanship,” Rep. Raúl Labrador (R-Idaho) commented.
“The president’s attempt to intimidate Congress by abusing executive power demonstrates a serious unwillingness to work with the coequal legislative branch of government,” Rep. Gregg Harper (R-Miss.) wrote in a statement.

NSA Hires Former DHS Official As “Civil Liberties and Privacy Officer”
In other words, NSA hires its future scapegoat

and from Email:

Making Washington work better for Montana
Dear Cyrellys,
With Congress making progress lately to pass a budget and to fund basic government services and our military, I traveled around Montana last week to meet with constituents and talk about how Washington's recent bipartisanship is helping Montanans.
I first stopped in Great Falls to meet with Air 
Force Secretary Deborah James.  We discussed the future of Malmstrom Air Force Base, and I reminded her that Congress will reject efforts to unfairly penalize the ICBM force.  The government funding bill prevents any study that could lead to the removal of Malmstrom's missile silos.  The bill also includes funding to build a hangar for the Montana National Guard's new C-130 planes that are set to arrive in Great Falls this summer.
I next visited the Helena College of Technology and spoke with instructors about support for job training so that we prepare Montanans — including veterans — to perform the jobs that our businesses need.
I then talked 
with teachers and parents about Congress investing in Head Start so students are better prepared to succeed in school, before reading to students at Four Georgians Elementary School.
I also sat down
 with health care providers to discuss how the funding bill ensures greater support for community health centers, which are critical to providing quality, affordable health care in small towns and rural areas across Montana.

Looking to the year ahead, I hope that Congress can continue working together to pass a Farm Bill, modernize our out-of-date roads, bridges and railways, and to reform the housing finance system to protect taxpayers while giving more certainty to homeowners.  
As I keep working to do what's best for Montana, I encourage you to help me by making your thoughts known.  You can always contact me or by calling my office in Washington, D.C. or one of my eight offices around our state.
Be well

Hmmm, I didn't read anywhere in here anything that indicated my Senator has a clue what is going on or how critical our situation currently is.

He is silent on over-reach of power in the Executive.

He seems unaware over what happened on 01-14-14 wrt the statements made in the press and via intelligence communication devices about the influence upon US domestic and international policy.

He seems unaware of citizens concerns over the stationing of foreign troops in our nation for use in lew of our own military to deal with the public in a crisis situation.

He still gives no indication he is informed and critical about what happened wrt a set of glassmakers in September of 2013

But this guy has time to read to elementary school kids and focus on health centers for affordable health care and the farm bill.  Not that those are not important in some way, but I would think the things I mention above would be of a higher priority.  At least if you really cared about having a Constitutional Republic to be a representative of the people in.  

I am still mindful of him appearing to join the military purging bandwagon by broadcasting through the Great Falls Tribune, that he is backing a nuclear forces review.  So he's involved in the aftermath of what occurred in September but, what, is he uninformed?  Or is he in on the corruption?  Exactly what color of dog does he have in the hunt?  As a constituent of his, I'd really like to know.


Post on Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:22 pm by Cyrellys

I just received via email a letter from a NY assemblyman to the governor of NY.  It is an amazing, level-headed and fair letter illustrating the tracks the two sides of the great conflict between traditional America (Constitutional) and the progressive America (typically socialistic/marxist).  The animosity against humanity which is not exactly like them is clearly evident from the progressives and addressed in the letter.  Observing these types of dialogs is like putting a piece of litmus paper in a solution which is evolving, becoming more volatile.


Letter from Assemblyman Steven F. McLaughlin:

The Honorable Andrew M. Cuomo
NYS Capitol Building
Albany, NY 12224

Governor Cuomo,

I write you today to express my disappointment upon hearing the comments you made Friday, January 17th on the Capitol Pressroom. Specifically, I am referring to your statement regarding those who you deem to be “extreme conservatives” having “no place in the state of New York.” Demagogic rhetoric like that has no place in the state of New York from anyone, and certainly not from the chief executive of the state.

You have clearly redefined ‘extreme’ to suit your narrative. What you’ve decided is “extreme” are in reality mainstream positions held by millions of New Yorkers and Americans, and they are not just Conservatives.  Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, Independents can be counted among those you labeled as “extreme.”

You stated that those who support the traditional definition of marriage are somehow “anti-gay.” Your conclusion is so ill-informed that it defies description. Millions of New Yorkers believe in traditional marriage and millions more support gay marriage. People that support the traditional definition of marriage between a man and a woman are not anti-gay any more than those that support gay marriage are “anti-heterosexual.” How is support for traditional marriage an “extreme” position? Is it your assertion for example, that Pope Francis or Cardinal Dolan have “no place in the state of New York” because of their belief and the belief of millions of Catholics that marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman? Further, it isn’t just Catholics, Governor. Jews, Protestants, Baptists, Muslims, etc., all have members of their faith that believe the same thing. They also, I assume, have members that believe in gay marriage. The point, Governor, is that those views are held by millions of people in New York, all of whom have a place here.

Regarding those who support the 2nd amendment you asked; “Are they pro-assault weapon?” That is a political term coined by anti-gun progressives. In an unprecedented show of opposition to a bill you jammed through the legislature, over 50 counties, Sheriff’s, over 300 towns and villages, the VA, millions of New Yorkers and every single police officer I know have opposed the SAFE Act. They are not extremist’s Governor, they are our fellow citizens.

The contempt in your voice was evident as you said “Who are they? Are they these extreme conservatives who are right to life, pro-assault weapon, anti-gay?” Millions of New Yorkers believe in the sanctity of life just as millions are pro-choice. While there is obvious disagreement between the two beliefs, why is the pro-life position suddenly an extreme one when 48% of Americans state that they are pro-life? 35% of self-described Democrats identify themselves as pro-life. I ask you Governor which is the more extreme position: Those who believe in the sanctity of life, or a Governor pushing a bill that would allow the abortion of full term, viable fetuses that could be performed by non-physicians? Which one of those would a very large majority of people find to be the more extreme position?
You clearly have a talent for redefining words and issues to suit your agenda. Those you agree with are “common sense” while anyone who opposes you is an “extremist.” Have we really arrived at a point where we have a Governor so contemptuous of debate or opposition, that you find it necessary to demonize the very people you serve?

Rather than attack those who disagree with you Governor Cuomo, perhaps you should attack the real “extremes” that our citizens deal with every day under your administration. Here are a few, but certainly not all. Since November, New Yorkers have watched their electric rates almost double; according to the US Department of Energy, New Yorkers paid the highest electricity rates at the end of 2013 of all states in the mainland US. Yet, I haven’t heard you decry the extreme regulatory climate cultivated by your own appointees that’s made New Yorkers pay more than 50% the national average to light their homes?

Absent the reforms that were promised at the time the tax cap was created, our school and property taxes continue to climb. New York is more secure than ever in its position as having the highest such taxes in the nation, your rhetoric aside. Will you speak out against the extreme unfairness of the unfunded mandates with the same gusto that you attack the views of Catholics, Orthodox Jews and Muslims?

New York presently sits near the top of all the wrong lists. Taxes, spending, corruption, and cost of living--just to name a few while we are at the bottom of the list on business climate, economic and personal freedoms among others. Unlike the religious and political views of private citizens, these are things that Albany actually has the ability to change and while you’ve paid lip-service to them, you’ve done virtually nothing to change any of them.

Perhaps you should address the “extreme” exodus of our friends, family, co-workers, and businesses as they escape from New York for better opportunities, lower taxes and more freedom? The fleeing of New York has accelerated during your tenure.

There are five months remaining in the legislative session. That’s plenty of time to lower property taxes, make New York more affordable and help the private sector create jobs. You are obviously frustrated by the fact that each of your major social policies has met bipartisan opposition, but that doesn’t excuse you choosing to fight who you describe as “extremists” instead of fighting the extreme problems you were elected to fix.

Rather than you taking responsibility and personally explaining your statements, your staff is claiming that your words were taken out of context. I listened repeatedly. They were not taken out of context. They were spoken by you and the meaning was clear. Your staff is claiming that you were talking not about citizens but about political candidates. For the record; I think that explanation is laughable. But, even if true, it is as frighteningly arrogant as you saying that citizens have no place in New York. Are you really that fearful of honest debate and opposing viewpoints? Is it your contention Governor that a pro-life, pro-2nd amendment, pro-traditional marriage candidate, or any combination of those, has no place running for office? I shudder to think of the state you described during that interview. There are countries around the world where elected officials blindly follow their leader. Those countries are not the United States.
New York has always been a tapestry of humanity, welcoming to all people regardless of their nationality, faith, culture or beliefs. Those differences make us who we are as a state and a nation.  Contrary to what you seem to think, that is the beauty and the bold colors of New York and America. It is what makes us unique and strong.
While I disagree with progressive philosophy regularly, I would never say that there is no place in New York for progressives. Nor would I say there is no place for you in New York. There is. But if you seek to demonize those who disagree with you by saying that they don’t belong in this great state, that place is not the Governor’s office.

I shouldn’t need to remind you that as Governor it is your duty to serve all of the people of this state and not just those who agree with you.


Assemblyman Steven F. McLaughlin

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