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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.

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Electromagnetic Effects Associated with Unidentified Flying Objects

Post by karl 12 on Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:07 pm

EM effects are a pretty intriguing aspect of the UFO subject and there have been plenty of very strange UFO cases where electromagnetic interference with avionic systems, motors, headlights, radios (and even weapons systems) have been reported at the same time the UFO has been witnessed.

Richard Thieme brings up the subject in this  presentation and the NICAP document below, 'Electromagnetic Effects Associated with Unidentified Flying Objects' does a good job of cataloging cases through the 1950s and exploring the subject in general - it's said the report was circulated to several hundred interested parties including scientists and members of Congress and concluded that 'the evidence was sufficient to warrant a more thorough investigation of UFOs, and an attempt to learn more about the E -M phenomenon through deliberate instrumentation for that purpose'.


Electromagnetic Effects Associated with Unidentified Flying Objects.

The purpose of this booklet is to explore this one aspect of the UFO mystery: Electromagnetic effects which occurred at the same time a UFO was seen.

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NARCAP's Richard Haines has also conducted some scientific research on aircraft EM effects in the paper below and for more in depth reading then Chapter five of John McCampbell's book 'Ufology' goes into more detail about stalling of vehicle motors, dimming and extinguishing of car headlights/house lights, fading or loss of radio/television reception and malfunction of compasses and watches.


Richard F. Haines, Ph.D.

"Reports of anomalous aerial objects (AAO) appearing in the atmosphere continue to be made by pilots of almost every airline and air force of the world in addition to private and experimental test pilots. This paper presents a review of 56 reports of AAO in which electromagnetic effects (E-M) take place on-board the aircraft when the phenomenon is located nearby but not before it appeared or after it had departed.
Reported E-M effects included radio interference or total failure, radar contact with and without simultaneous visual contact, magnetic and/or gyro-compass deviations, automatic direction finder failure or interference, engine stopping or interruption, dimming cabin lights, transponder failure, and military aircraft weapon system failure. We're not dealing with mental projections or hallucinations on the part of the witness but with a real physical phenomenon."

Dr. Richard Haines, Psychologist specializing in pilot and astronaut "human factors" research for the Ames NASA Research Center in California-Chief of the Space Human Factors Office.





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Re: Electromagnetic Effects Associated with Unidentified Flying Objects

Post by isaackoi on Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:38 pm

karl 12 wrote:EM effects are a pretty intriguing aspect of the UFO subject

Indeed. Incidentally Karl, as you may already know, BUFORA did a classic study on EM cases of vehicle interference. They produced an updated version of that study a few years ago:

(I know a few people in BUFORA and may ask them if they would consider making at least the original study available online free of charge. I would have thought that making that work freely available may actually stimulate some sales for them of their updated study - a win/win situation for everyone).

Good to see you here by the way. I just joined myself.
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Re: Electromagnetic Effects Associated with Unidentified Flying Objects

Post by karl 12 on Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:49 pm

Hola Isaac, good to see you here too my friend (along with Senor Gut Smile)- have to say I wasn't aware of the updated study so many thanks for bringing it up -would certainly like to have a read of that one and hopefully the good folks at BUFORA will actually consider posting the original online for free.

I've just seen the message you posted on UFOUpDates back in 2005 and have to say great job -that's one pretty comprehensive post you provided them with although it's a great shame that the majority of links have now been removed.

BUFORA Updating Vehicle Interference Project

I'm betting you will have already looked through this collection from Loren E. Gross but there are still some relevant EM examples in there -you also mention the work of James McCampbell in your post and I found his book to be a really excellent one -here's another one of his entitled 'Effects of UFOs Upon People' and it also brings up electro-magnetism so I've included it.  

Paper given at UFO symposium in 1986:

All observed effects of UFOs, except purely mechanical processes and artifacts, carry implications of electromagnetic and gravitational fields in their vicinity.

Technical studies of individual effects can establish limits to the parameters of those fields. So detailed studies of the wide range of effects should lead to a significant understanding of the UFO field. Limitations deduced from one effect may well be different from those of another, and still another.

By overlaying these various constraints, specific parameters of the UFO fields should become progressively more apparent.

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