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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

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Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Chinese UFO authority confirmed aliens live in China!

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Chinese UFO authority confirmed aliens live in China!

Post by lynx on Thu May 09, 2013 8:17 pm

China UFO authority comfirmed advance aliens live in China. The thing about he can pin point the areas/regions where the aliens live in China tells me that Aliens are here on earth. No doubt the Chinese government is monitoring the aliens activities as well as aliens are doing the same thing.

"Chinese science and the extraterrestrial presence

In 2010 there were major overflights of UFOs over Chinese airports, shutting the airports down. Whether all of these are of extraterrestrial origin remains to be seen.

The extraterrestrial presence appears to be a more open one in mainstream Chinese science than in mainstream western science.

A leading Chinese extraterrestrial expert , “the oft-quoted Zhang Yifang, professor of physics at Yunnan University and Director of the Kunming UFO Research Association, recently claimed aliens are alive and well and living in Yunnan, Heilongjiang and Xinjiang. ‘The complicated terrain of these places makes them perfect for observation of us earthlings,’ he says. ‘But I believe they are nice and they have no intention of attacking us. Perhaps they are shape-shifters camouflaged as human beings or they have manufactured human-like robots to watch us.’”

“’UFOs are not just rumors, or fake science like some people think,’ he told That’s Shanghai. ‘It is a fact that the entire human race has to face. It needs our attention and study. Although the majority of mainstream scientists have a negative attitude towards UFOs at the moment, there are still some who recognize their existence. Since the late 1970s, UFO witness cases have started to appear frequently, and more and more scientists are starting to study it too, for example, Pan Junye, an academic at the China Engineering Academy, Zhu Jin from Beijing Observatory, and Wang Sichao from the Nanjing Observatory."
http://www.ufohighway.com/aspbb_version0_5/topic.asp?quickview=toggle&tid=172
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Re: Chinese UFO authority confirmed aliens live in China!

Post by lynx on Fri May 10, 2013 10:15 am

Nobody care about this? May be the idea of aliens live amoung us is too much?

But it's true.
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Re: Chinese UFO authority confirmed aliens live in China!

Post by Admin on Fri May 10, 2013 1:54 pm

Hi Lynx! Yes I read it last night. This was one of the posts I very much liked.

When it comes to aliens living among us, are you by any chance familiar with Charles Hall's testimony about the Tall Whites living on a Air Force base in the US southwest?

It's a great story too if you haven't already heard it. You can find audio from interviews he's done online.

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Post by lynx on Fri May 10, 2013 3:05 pm

Hi Cy! Thanks for reading the article and replying. Aliens present seems evidenced.


I learn about Charles Hall recently. Reading a book about Tall White. Very interesting too.

Hall claim that the Tall White's base in Nevada Desert. They base there at least since the time madison was president of US. Because his female TW teacher watched the wagon train roll through the Nevada desert.
TW live about 800 years, her teacher grown up in the region. For this reason this area of US was very dear to her heart. This sounds like a human.

According to him, the Greys and the TW don't get along and are in a kind of longstanding cold war, even though their bases in Nevada are not that far from each other.

I sometime think that while we human may face WWIII, the aliens may have a war in the future on earth too.
Just like the depicts on Indian ancient pictures


Don't know if the aliens have any superior right to interfere world business, tell us we are uncivilizated, seems to me, their history aren't that clean either.

my two cents



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Re: Chinese UFO authority confirmed aliens live in China!

Post by Admin on Fri May 10, 2013 4:54 pm

That's a good question you pose. I think maybe we should rethink how we view interaction. If they are living among us in such long terms then perhaps it would be more mature to say that they too have a stake in world affairs because those affairs could either benefit or harm them. That would essentially mean they have a right to representation and participation, just as any other nation or culture among us does. If they do not have a right to those things, representation and participation, then we open the door to arguments over who was here first and who has ownership of the planet, and if that's the case we might discover in short order that being the most populous specie on the face of the Earth doesn't automatically make us the owners. And that from the human perspective is a recipe for war. We currently aren't in open conflict with them. Why would we want to change that when representation and participation is such a simple modification to make?

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Re: Chinese UFO authority confirmed aliens live in China!

Post by Admin on Fri May 10, 2013 4:57 pm

Assuming that they'd have any interest in representation and participation, that is. If they don't, then things continue as is. But that would probably be the most equitable thing to do, at least leave the offer open.


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Post by lynx on Sat May 11, 2013 9:18 am

Admin wrote:That's a good question you pose. I think maybe we should rethink how we view interaction. If they are living among us in such long terms then perhaps it would be more mature to say that they too have a stake in world affairs because those affairs could either benefit or harm them.

That would essentially mean they have a right to representation and participation, just as any other nation or culture among us does. If they do not have a right to those things, representation and participation, then we open the door to arguments over who was here first and who has ownership of the planet, and if that's the case we might discover in short order that being the most populous specie on the face of the Earth doesn't automatically make us the owners. And that from the human perspective is a recipe for war. We currently aren't in open conflict with them. Why would we want to change that when representation and participation is such a simple modification to make?

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Hi Cy,

These are good points. What you are picturing here, I can see it will happen one day, in the near future. I don't think we human have much choice. If all they ask is participation and representation, I guess we have to swallow it. This remind me the movie of 5th element with Bruce Willis in it. We co-live with the alien openly.

But The ownership of the planet is a big issue, I doubt the aliens will let the human have it if they want it.
It will be human-alien wars.

Personally, I don't think the aliens has the right of ownership of the earth. Because God gave human the earth, not them. Human are the inhabitant of the earth.

If one day human and alien need to settle this issue, and human is losing, only God can help us.

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